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Last week was gravis captain, this week it is ancient...

I don't think we'll get a solo judicier or bladeguard ancient (I wouldn't be surprised if a Judicier and Bladeguard ancient turn up in a few years though)... Meaning, all characters are now done, and a suppressor multi-part kit to go?

And it's gone from Instagram.

Silly GW. The Internet is forever.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I don't think we'll get a solo judicier or bladeguard ancient (I wouldn't be surprised if a Judicier and Bladeguard ancient turn up in a few years though)... Meaning, all characters are now done, and a suppressor multi-part kit to go?

Hmm... didn't think of that. They could?

I might hold off making my own Judiciar out of the Primaris Chaplain + Black Templar bits for now.

Could be a new marine character every week for the next few weeks?

I wonder if we'll ever get a multipart lieutenant also?

Voss wrote:
Ultra-megazord-primaris-dreadnought? That sounds delightful. /s

Hmm. After all codexes are done... What is left?
We've got the three 2021 refugees, then Craftworlds and Chaos Marines, then...

Guard, Knights, other Knights, Tyranids, Daemons, Harlequins I guess...

'technically maybe an army' in form of Ynnari and Inquisition...

Am I missing anything?

You forgot Squats are coming as are World Eaters.

Noice, I can complete my Primaris Watch Company this year with minimal effort.

Squats will be a primaris gone wrong chapter

 NAVARRO wrote:
Squats will be a primaris gone wrong chapter

Yet somehow, due to scale creep, they'll still be taller than First Born Marines.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
Squats will be a primaris gone wrong chapter

Yet somehow, due to scale creep, they'll still be taller than First Born Marines.

As long as they are thicker too , no stupid drunkards on power wheel tricycles though . They can be Pygmy JumboSquat Giants.

Wield Sword and Standard With This Imperious New Primaris Ancient - WarCom

beast_gts wrote:
Wield Sword and Standard With This Imperious New Primaris Ancient - WarCom

Yay, weapon swaps. The incremental change SM definitely needed. Hopefully there will just be a single datasheet and not 'primaris ancient with bolt rifle,' 'primaris ancient with power sword' and etc.
But the Gravis Captain w/ Heavy Bolt Rifle precedent bodes poorly.

Are we ready to ditch the failed experiment with datasheets and go back to the far more functional system we used to have?

 silverstu wrote:

Voss wrote:
Ultra-megazord-primaris-dreadnought? That sounds delightful. /s

Hmm. After all codexes are done... What is left?
We've got the three 2021 refugees, then Craftworlds and Chaos Marines, then...

Guard, Knights, other Knights, Tyranids, Daemons, Harlequins I guess...

'technically maybe an army' in form of Ynnari and Inquisition...

Am I missing anything?

You forgot Squats are coming as are World Eaters.

I... didn't. I was listing current books (or WD get-you-by articles) that still need replacing. Rumors that may or may not happen are not my department. (Especially, IIRC, squats are just a possible kill team box and nothing else)

Voss wrote:
Are we ready to ditch the failed experiment with datasheets and go back to the far more functional system we used to have?

You do know the only difference between the 8th style Datasheets and the prior Unit Profiles is that the points aren't on the same page and the Datasheets show you all the options you can take in one place, right? Datasheets are a step away from the HH style Unit Profiles where every option is laid out on the page with the Points values (the exception being that Terminator Armour Characters were the same profile). It was hardly an experiment when it was already being done.
The only thing Datasheets did "wrong" was a few select units that got double profiles when they could have been one.

Who's betting the Bladeguard Ancient still will not be able to take a sword, because regular and Bladeguard Ancients are two different datasheets?

 Gert wrote:

Voss wrote:
Are we ready to ditch the failed experiment with datasheets and go back to the far more functional system we used to have?

You do know the only difference between the 8th style Datasheets and the prior Unit Profiles is that the points aren't on the same page and the Datasheets show you all the options you can take in one place, right?

I mean, sure, if you pretend the options they left off of datasheets never existed, and the sheer waste of duplication, that's the only difference, yep.

The pointless cross-referencing for points is a sin of itself, let alone pointless waste of book space that it involves. But hey, got to up the page count somehow. Don't want content in there.

I like the new ancient, but why do they feel the need to cram the Indominus cross on every new primaris model?

It's on the arm of every assault intercessor, its the shield of the bladeguard, the bike and foot chaplain have it on their book, etc.

We get it, its the era indominus. Is GW going to create a new symbol for the next big crusade, so that they can release even more models with just a different icon?

Gotta love how they're hyping up a model that's only real selling point is being equipped with a power sword rather than a bolt rifle...

 GaroRobe wrote:
I like the new ancient, but why do they feel the need to cram the Indominus cross on every new primaris model?

It's on the arm of every assault intercessor, its the shield of the bladeguard, the bike and foot chaplain have it on their book, etc.

We get it, its the era indominus. Is GW going to create a new symbol for the next big crusade, so that they can release even more models with just a different icon?

The answer is yes. That is exactly what they're going to do when Dorn comes back, splits the IoM into two distinct empires, and éclair's the Holy Donut crusade to end once and for all the remaining problematic lore before they launch "Warhammer: Age of Primarchs" as a total reboot.


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 Grimskul wrote:
Gotta love how they're hyping up a model that's only real selling point is being equipped with a power sword rather than a bolt rifle...

Just wait until next Christmas when we get an Ancient with a power fist.

 Grimskul wrote:
Gotta love how they're hyping up a model that's only real selling point is being equipped with a power sword rather than a bolt rifle...

Power sword or other options yet to be revealed.

It 'could' include a powerfist, a plasma pistol or a chainsword. It might not.

Togusa may have to wait until next Christmas.

Not only is the new model an absolute belter, the Primaris Ancient comes with the option to replace his traditional bolt rifle with a power sword.*

* There are further assembly options in the kit too, but you’ll have to wait a bit longer to see them all.

It's right there at the bottom.

 Togusa wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Gotta love how they're hyping up a model that's only real selling point is being equipped with a power sword rather than a bolt rifle...

Just wait until next Christmas when we get an Ancient with a power fist.

I like how people blidly bash while making it obvious they didn't even look at the article

Anyway, these 'extra options' move this release from 'mostly redundant' to 'about damn time'. Now how about just giving the rest of primaris range access to melee/pistol/combi weapon tables and releasing missing gravis/phobos HQs, GW?

Why the banner doesn't also double as a (power) spear/chainsword and he keeps his bolter, I'll not understand.

Anyways, flimsy marine release. Guess we need a new codex to go with it.

I wonder how they'll handle providing the updated rules.

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder how they'll handle providing the updated rules.

Probably by putting the datasheet in the box & updating the app for anyone with the codex registered.

I suspect we'll see these updated characters as a separate release to the rumoured supplement stuff, as large marine releases tend to be in the summer. Wouldn't be surprised to see a new marines vs chaos box like in 2019.

 Irbis wrote:

 Togusa wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:
Gotta love how they're hyping up a model that's only real selling point is being equipped with a power sword rather than a bolt rifle...

Just wait until next Christmas when we get an Ancient with a power fist.

I like how people blidly bash while making it obvious they didn't even look at the article

Anyway, these 'extra options' move this release from 'mostly redundant' to 'about damn time'. Now how about just giving the rest of primaris range access to melee/pistol/combi weapon tables and releasing missing gravis/phobos HQs, GW?

A bit rich coming from the first guy who"blindly bashed" on Ork boyz for becoming T5 and claimed that it would be broken as all hell when it was first revealed and is still super salty about it when Ork boyz are borderline nonexistent in competitive lists outside of Trukk boyz and only because grots are terrible for their cost as troop filler. Orkstodes I believe you called them? Get back to me when they come with 2+ saves and built in invulns first.

You can argue semantics but it's not like the model never existed or wasn't available and it being another variant of Primaris is hardly the most exciting announcement for most people. It would have made more sense for them to showcase this off with the new Gravis captain rather than as a standalone model preview.

 Grimskul wrote:

You can argue semantics but it's not like the model never existed or wasn't available and it being another variant of Primaris is hardly the most exciting announcement for most people. It would have made more sense for them to showcase this off with the new Gravis captain rather than as a standalone model preview.

Not exciting is an understatement. What makes more sense is GW just admitting that primaris can use the standard array of character weapons from the wargear list and, in the case of gravis armor, do a sprue of the usual kit with arms and gloves that fit. Since that's obviously the endgame they're aiming for anyway.

There isn't any point to Gen 3 and Gen 4 Primaris character models just for wargear. Just glue a power sword/fist/bolt rifle/pistol on and everyone can move on with waiting for the remaining armies to be updated to 9th...

Voss wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

You can argue semantics but it's not like the model never existed or wasn't available and it being another variant of Primaris is hardly the most exciting announcement for most people. It would have made more sense for them to showcase this off with the new Gravis captain rather than as a standalone model preview.

Not exciting is an understatement. What makes more sense is GW just admitting that primaris can use the standard array of character weapons from the wargear list and, in the case of gravis armor, do a sprue of the usual kit with arms and gloves that fit. Since that's obviously the endgame they're aiming for anyway.

There isn't any point to Gen 3 and Gen 4 Primaris character models just for wargear. Just glue a power sword/fist/bolt rifle/pistol on and everyone can move on with waiting for the remaining armies to be updated to 9th...

Yeah, if GW was a rational company not obsessed with defending their IP to the teeth, they would. Alas, Chapterhouse has taught them that they can't be a schoolyard bully without setting up their own fort first, so thus was born "no model, no rules" syndrome. I've never understood how having more options rather than just the set ones on a sprue is supposed to solve the third party bitz problem, wouldn't GW promoting more options incentivize more people to buy boxes for more bitz?

So that's why my awesome Artel chaos apothecary has no rules!?!

Voss wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:



There isn't any point to Gen 3 and Gen 4 Primaris character models just for wargear. Just glue a power sword/fist/bolt rifle/pistol on and everyone can move on with waiting for the remaining armies to be updated to 9th...

One word, Money

 warboss wrote:
So that's why my awesome Artel chaos apothecary has no rules!?!

Hush you! Remember, in the HHHobby, if there are no rules, there are no models!

In that case, I'm going to have to break the news to my Chapterhouse thunderchibihawk that he's not playable!

 Grimskul wrote:
Gotta love how they're hyping up a model that's only real selling point is being equipped with a power sword rather than a bolt rifle...

Malibu Stacey's gotta have her new hat!

 Gert wrote:
... and the Datasheets show you all the options you can take in one place...

No they don't. Datasheets are less convenient as they put the points elsewhere. You still have plenty of units with options that have to go to a separate page in the book for what weapons they can take, and a further separate page for the points costs for said weapons.