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I can’t wait to see the Avatar in its full glory.

Also intrigued as to whether it might be usable in AoS for Daughters of Khaine.

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I wonder if the new Nid will be able to be dual built as the red terror?

Aye, it certainly seems to be the same general shape as it.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:I can’t wait to see the Avatar in its full glory.

Also intrigued as to whether it might be usable in AoS for Daughters of Khaine.

I'd not expect it too. Historically there's never been a connection save for the name - Khaine. The Khaine of Eldar and the Khaine of Old World were very different and the AoS version is even more different. Heck the recent lore has Morathi starting to make statues in HER image now that she's managed to steal some godlike powers of her own and doesn't have to only rely on syphoning the energies from the Heart of Khaine (the only part of Khaine that remains in the Mortal Realms)

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I wonder if the new Nid will be able to be dual built as the red terror?

Aye, it certainly seems to be the same general shape as it.

Eh the Red Terror is more a superpowerful ravener and honestly is a bit undersized now for its storyline. It's probably supposed to be somewhere between a Trygon and a Ravener in terms of size and power; it also lacks wings.

I'd be surprised if its part of a duel kit that, far as we can see, currently has wings or wing like parts

 Overread wrote:

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 endlesswaltz123 wrote:
I wonder if the new Nid will be able to be dual built as the red terror?

Aye, it certainly seems to be the same general shape as it.

Eh the Red Terror is more a superpowerful ravener and honestly is a bit undersized now for its storyline. It's probably supposed to be somewhere between a Trygon and a Ravener in terms of size and power; it also lacks wings.

I'd be surprised if its part of a duel kit that, far as we can see, currently has wings or wing like parts

I mean, if they upscaled the Red Terror to be of respectable size, then they really only would need to replace the wings with arms and give it a diffrent tail ending, maybe a diffrent head to. Doesn't sound like too much, to be honest

There's some stuff linking Khaine to Khaine in the fluff iirc, though this may be just someone's head canon. I think for most of us though there is some implicit connection between the two, much as the elf / space elf connection is undeniable, no matter how tenuous it might be to some.

I wonder if the Avatar will have options for it be be made lying directly prone on the base of the minor character of your choosing?

I fully expect a Primaris Lt to be included on the sprue too.

Its hard to claim there is no connection between the 2 Khains when they have the same name and look (roughly) the same look.

The problem with using this new Avatar for DoK is simply one of aesthetic. I don't believe the AoS version is depicted as a burning molten figure and the model looked to lean heavily into that so I doubt there will be rules for both systems. But hey, nothing stops you from using it in your DoK army as a regular statue of Khaine.

Yep. Another damn exercise in pausing'n'playing videos. Oh well...

Pretty much a happy bunny as its pretty much all stuff I'm interested in, especially Maugan Ra who is the ultimate 40K badass. With Maugan and some Reapers in that parcel from Wayland when it arrives...

"Hey, whats in there man?"

"In here? Doom."

Size likely will be issue. We are talking about gw. Do you think this model will fit on 40mm base?

The stuff looks potentially interesting, especially the Avatar and Maugan Ra.

That being said, I find previewing stuff this way mostly infuriation. Either show them properly or not at all.

Yep very happy to see shots of Ra and Avatar and do wish they woulda just shown them in all their glory now but GW do like to draw stuff out long as possible. Hoping these arrive sooner rather than later but I assume they wont show till mid year at the earliest....

SamusDrake wrote:
Yep. Another damn exercise in pausing'n'playing videos. Oh well...

Pretty much a happy bunny as its pretty much all stuff I'm interested in, especially Maugan Ra who is the ultimate 40K badass. With Maugan and some Reapers in that parcel from Wayland when it arrives...

"Hey, whats in there man?"

"In here? Doom."

Wouldn't the package require a Farseer as well for that to work?

 Crimson wrote:
The stuff looks potentially interesting, especially the Avatar and Maugan Ra.

That being said, I find previewing stuff this way mostly infuriation. Either show them properly or not at all.

It's a teaser, that's sort of the point. To give you enough to get you excited, then show you the full package at a later time, most likely I'd say we will see a lot of this and more at LVO this year at the end of the month.

 Dysartes wrote:

Wouldn't the package require a Farseer as well for that to work?

Ah man, do we really need those geeks? Its like inviting a Harry Potter fan to a Lord of the Rings convention...

 Ordana wrote:
The problem with using this new Avatar for DoK is simply one of aesthetic. I don't believe the AoS version is depicted as a burning molten figure and the model looked to lean heavily into that so I doubt there will be rules for both systems. But hey, nothing stops you from using it in your DoK army as a regular statue of Khaine.

Well, given that there's a new DoK miniature in the preview too, there's nothing to say they're not going to get some new units, and maybe a more bleedy avatar alongside them, to sell it to the AoS crowd as well as 40k.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
Just like last year, they showed off nothing. Man I really miss the days when they actually Previewed models.

For the Daughter/Wych, I am now not sure about that model. Seeing her from the back makes it really hard for me to tell 100%

They actually showed more last year, a whole actual model for AoS.


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It definitely seems more DoK than Drukhari to me. Down to the colour scheme. Dark Eldar wych armour also has vent things on the back.

As an aside to this, the whip pommel is exactly the same as the current Sisters of Slaughter.

It could be Underworld or Warcry - but DoK actually have good models in both.

Could be new Sisters of Slaughter themed leader model and DoK could do with one or two more "cheaper/smaller" leader type models being added to their range. Or perhaps a new infantry type - super exalted infantry

IIRC, Morathi's fluff in AoS would sort of preclude the Avatar from a Daughters of Khaine battletome.

Not really. Morathi is now Morathi-Khaine, presenting herself as a sort of Avatar of the God but there are still plenty who will worship the old idols and traditions than immediately replace them with idols of Morathi herself.

Yeah but so far they don't call upon the actual god himself or a part of him - they use magic and blood to animate stone constructs. I think it would only work if the Avatar is the same size as he is now, which I don't expect. I fully expect a BIG model akin to the Greater Demons.

But there is still an Avatar of Khaine unit. I'm not saying that the new Avatar model will be for DoK just that DoK have them.

But totally different to 40k one and odds　are you can't use new model in aos(size).

And if gw wants to redo dok avatar it requires redoing another kit not related to 40k at all.

Point to where I said you could/should use the 40k Avatar as a DoK Avatar. You people need to learn how to read.

Using the new avatar model in aos has been topic for a while. Before saying learn to　read it's recommended to learn to read yourself first. That way you don't embarrass yourself.

 Togusa wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
The stuff looks potentially interesting, especially the Avatar and Maugan Ra.

That being said, I find previewing stuff this way mostly infuriation. Either show them properly or not at all.

It's a teaser, that's sort of the point. To give you enough to get you excited, then show you the full package at a later time, most likely I'd say we will see a lot of this and more at LVO this year at the end of the month.

Now they've been teased I'll bet that we could see at least one or two of these as New Model Monday reveals before LVO. Fingers crossed for Maugan Ra, GW like showing off character models with that.

First Monday of the year tends to be the store anniversary models though.

The trend of GW recreating iconic artwork continues. I wonder what else they'll draw inspiration from

Fingers crossed all of the Eldar Aspects that GW updates get an update, at the very least, of their main troop and leader model - like the Banshee got.

Rangers haven't got their unique ranger leader updated, so far; and we've not seen any troops go to with Maugan. So that's two "potential" near releases that might come alongside.

At least if GW sticks at it like that the aspect warriors and such will feel "complete" each time they update one. Even if they don't update them all. Worse is if they get stuck half way with a leader/troop updated and the other not

 Overread wrote:
Fingers crossed all of the Eldar Aspects that GW updates get an update, at the very least, of their main troop and leader model - like the Banshee got.

Rangers haven't got their unique ranger leader updated, so far; and we've not seen any troops go to with Maugan. So that's two "potential" near releases that might come alongside.

At least if GW sticks at it like that the aspect warriors and such will feel "complete" each time they update one. Even if they don't update them all. Worse is if they get stuck half way with a leader/troop updated and the other not

Honestly it's not the end of the world if 2 or 3 aspects get skipped this codex. GW can always put out another PA / BOTP-style* release to update others later with minimal effort.

Seems that Eldar players will get enough new stuff to paint this year without throwing out 90% of their current aspect warriors.

*but hopefully with fewer 90's models

That's a chaos knight? It looks more like a Forgefiend that I have...

Eldenfirefly wrote:
That's a chaos knight? It looks more like a Forgefiend that I have...

Chaos knights have the same vents and pipes that forgefiends, venomcrawlers, warpsmiths, etc all have.