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chaos0xomega wrote:
The choice of an armored belly button for the female guardians is a bit odd...

A little putty can take care of that.

As I look at these new models, I like the redesigned calf and thigh plates. The plates are crisper overall (especially on the torso) and I can see how some would like this while others may prefer the softer lines of the old armor. The shoulders are cleaner but that's really minor. You could probably use these as your assault er, Storm Guardians and the old ones as your defenders (or vice versa). The new helmetless heads are far better than the old one.

All in all, pretty cool. Now let's get some of those old metal kits updated with plastic.

So, they're going to do one of these every week for the new Eldar kits? Think, maybe they'll do that for CSM too? Maybe?

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
So, they're going to do one of these every week for the new Eldar kits? Think, maybe they'll do that for CSM too? Maybe?

That would be quite nice. I would love to see more on the (well needed) new Chaos kits, and what other new stuff they will be getting.

 NH Gunsmith wrote:

But I don't believe that anything about possible Gaunt head sculpts and how many pieces they should be/their size is a preview or a New Years sneak peak...

Honestly it's a refreshing change from all the other Dakka threads that go off topic to discuss model prices or how often space marine releases come out.

 xttz wrote:

 NH Gunsmith wrote:

But I don't believe that anything about possible Gaunt head sculpts and how many pieces they should be/their size is a preview or a New Years sneak peak...

Honestly it's a refreshing change from all the other Dakka threads that go off topic to discuss model prices or how often space marine releases come out.

...you know... fair enough haha.

Can't they do it like Orks? With a ball jointed-esque neck that a head goes on top of.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Can't they do it like Orks? With a ball jointed-esque neck that a head goes on top of.

That's what they do now. It's just Orks have their neck attach to the back of their heads while the recessed "detail" of the face is on the front, Tyranids it attaches to the bottom, but then Tyranids have recessed detail on the sides of their heads also. 3 sides with recessed details means it has to be 2 piece to avoid undercuts.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Can't they do it like Orks? With a ball jointed-esque neck that a head goes on top of.

Yeah that was a neat thing in the Ork kits, back in the day.

Tyranids can get away with a lot of ball and socket joins that other species can't because it has to be hidden on other races. With tyranids they can be totally bold and open with the ball and socket join because that's how they are.

That said there's room to do some with other models - eg the Deamonette kit has a rounded neck base on the head and that fits into the curve cup at the base of the neck, letting you angle the heads how you want.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Can't they do it like Orks? With a ball jointed-esque neck that a head goes on top of.

Apparently that's considered a "big brain" solution... that was done decades ago.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Can't they do it like Orks? With a ball jointed-esque neck that a head goes on top of.

Apparently that's considered a "big brain" solution... that was done decades ago.

It's lost technology. The Forge-City that ball-jointed necks were produced on was overrun by Space Marine players.

I'm starting to think: what if the whip elf is a Umbraneth Shadowaelf?

 CMLR wrote:
I'm starting to think: what if the whip elf is a Umbraneth Shadowaelf?

Doubtful. First up the whole "umbraneth" was something someone on 4chan/reddit made up and edited into the post to make a fake screenshot.

But that aside the release of the Shadow Aelf army would be more major and right now Eldar is the major next release that's going to overshadow everything for this 1st quarter of the year. I would be surprised if GW threw out two brand new major armies in that time span, even if they are on their two flagship game lines. I'd also honestly hope that they are visually more different to the DoK line and right now that model looks all Sister of Slaughter from the DoK line.

chaos0xomega wrote:
The choice of an armored belly button for the female guardians is a bit odd...

It’s strange but certainly nothing new. Eldar armor has had belly buttons before. The new banshees have it too iirc

 GaroRobe wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
The choice of an armored belly button for the female guardians is a bit odd...

It’s strange but certainly nothing new. Eldar armor has had belly buttons before. The new banshees have it too iirc

Boob and belly plates with button seem to be gws decision for female armour on Eldar going forward. Will be interesting to see if they continue onto the other plastic aspects.

We need Vyper squadrons to get the option for 1 d cannon per 3 vypers.

ursvamp wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
Has the lore on craftworld Eldar going into battle without their helmets changed?

I may be rust with my lore, but isn't the helmet part of the thing that helps to keep the path of the warrior different from their everyday life path. Not wearing a helmet means that they have got lost somewhere and are a bit of a wildcard.

Not sure what's said about the guardian helmets, but I *think* that's mostly an Aspect Warrior-thing. It has to do with them devoting themselves fully to war/their path and becoming less of individuals outside of that. Guardians, however, are just normal citizens who serve in the military in times of need. Still people with normal lives and occupations at home, and such

I wouldn't be surprised if there are passages about the Aspects wearing all of their kit including their helmets as part of the 'uniform' of their path. Wouldn't mean there is aversion to wearing them amongst the non Aspect Eldar though and can't recall reading anything that suggested that.

Guardians are usually a little more than normal citizens though. Or at least Biel-Tan guardians are as on reaching adulthood they select an Aspect Warrior Shrine and learn that path before they are allowed to leave and experience any others.

 NH Gunsmith wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
So, they're going to do one of these every week for the new Eldar kits? Think, maybe they'll do that for CSM too? Maybe?

That would be quite nice. I would love to see more on the (well needed) new Chaos kits, and what other new stuff they will be getting.

I don't think we'll get a dedicated series of weekly articles for CSM - the increased fanfare is due to this being a decades in the making release for Eldar. There will be a major preview in late Jan for LVO so hopefully we see some of the incoming CSM kits then.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
So, they're going to do one of these every week for the new Eldar kits? Think, maybe they'll do that for CSM too? Maybe?

Nope. In fact with the Eldar getting even more stuff, and Chaos Marines coming out in the same release window... well. Maybe there won't be much of anything to show off. Just warpsmith and monopose chosen and job done.
Maybe daemons will get some stuff later in the year or WE really are coming at some point in 2022.

 DivineVisitor wrote:
Guardians are usually a little more than normal citizens though.

Aren't Guardians just another path than an Eldar can take, so you're just as likely to have a Guardian who used to be a Swooping Hawk as you are a Guardian who used to be a barista?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 DivineVisitor wrote:
Guardians are usually a little more than normal citizens though.

Aren't Guardians just another path than an Eldar can take, so you're just as likely to have a Guardian who used to be a Swooping Hawk as you are a Guardian who used to be a barista?

Well, yes to the second. But no to the first.

Sourcing back to the original Craftworlds write-up:
"we are not immediately concerned with these other Eldar [basically, non-Warrior or Seer paths] as their part on the battlefield is not directly linked to their place on the Eldar Path. Regardless of the their current vocation, all Eldar are trained to take their position in the Eldar armies when needed. The serve in the Guardians as combat troops, weapon crews, etc... If danger is sufficiently pressing, every Eldar on a Craftworld can pick up a gun and rally to his or her designated Guardian unit"

So ex-Aspect Warriors and baristas are both likely to turn up as Guardians. But everybody is taught 'shoot gun.'
The bit even GW tends to forget is Guardians aren't there to bulk out the Craftworld armies if they need to go out and murder some fools (because Farseer Bob found some important crux of fate), they're part of the of the Craftworld's defense.

Too late, already imagining Guardian Exarchs locked in the Path of the Weekend Warrior.

warpedpig wrote:
We need Vyper squadrons to get the option for 1 d cannon per 3 vypers.

Thaj would require box of 3 new vypers. And box that isn't 1 sprue multipied times to get 3 vypers.

And its Eldar. If every single bike in a unit can take a heavy weapon, why would they limit something to 1 per 3 vypers?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
And its Eldar. If every single bike in a unit can take a heavy weapon, why would they limit something to 1 per 3 vypers?

Because they can make a new kit that way.

Not that I think they will.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
And its Eldar. If every single bike in a unit can take a heavy weapon, why would they limit something to 1 per 3 vypers?

Well that's because the bike sprues come with each weapon per bike. That's why only way 1/3 would be upgrades would be sprue collection you can't split into 3 individual vypers but instead would have 1 set that gives 3 with only 1 d-cannon.

Like 1 sprue that's hull only multiplied 3 times and 1 sprue that contains weapons for 3 vypers with 1 d-cannon. If you just sell hull sprue vyper would have no guns. You need the weapon sprue with weapons for 3 vypers.

That way 1/3 d-cannons could happen. Otheriwise, nope. Not until GW top bosses gets replaced anyway.

tneva82 wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
And its Eldar. If every single bike in a unit can take a heavy weapon, why would they limit something to 1 per 3 vypers?

Well that's because the bike sprues come with each weapon per bike. That's why only way 1/3 would be upgrades would be sprue collection you can't split into 3 individual vypers but instead would have 1 set that gives 3 with only 1 d-cannon.

Like 1 sprue that's hull only multiplied 3 times and 1 sprue that contains weapons for 3 vypers with 1 d-cannon. If you just sell hull sprue vyper would have no guns. You need the weapon sprue with weapons for 3 vypers.

That way 1/3 d-cannons could happen. Otheriwise, nope. Not until GW top bosses gets replaced anyway.

Or maybe a small additional sprue with the big gun options?

...or we could do the sensible thing, and stop encouraging warpedpig's crazy wishlisting within this thread.

 CMLR wrote:
I'm starting to think: what if the whip elf is a Umbraneth Shadowaelf?

If it is, then Malerions elves are going to be very disappointing, seeing as it looks just like a Daughters of Khaine model.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 CMLR wrote:
I'm starting to think: what if the whip elf is a Umbraneth Shadowaelf?

If it is, then Malerions elves are going to be very disappointing, seeing as it looks just like a Daughters of Khaine model.

‘Gloomineth Edgelords’ or bust.

If they end up being called Umbraneth, it will have been a grievously missed opportunity.