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SamusDrake wrote:
Oh but I like Kabalites! Are they really naff?

No, they're about the same as always.
It's other stuff in the codex wich is better to way better.

Yeah, vipoid will point out all 3 of the negatives and not say anything about the 97 positives. Kabalites in boats (of either kind) are not top tier but they are (even on their own) better than all but the newest books, I'd say.

Actually it was a heart felt shout out to players of other factions, for being so patient while this happens.

I've been a big of a Negative Neville in the past and moaned like a bitch when it was Chaos Marines or Slaanesh getting their roll outs.

But I was royally sick of Sisters of Battle. Not only did they get a release that rightly belonged to Imperial Knights, but they also got a friggin Harlequin! Cheeky cows!

As a long time Sisters' player who commonly matches up against a Chaos player... I've felt very bad for the amount of attention GW has heaped upon the army over the past few releases. ESPECIALLY across the table from a Chaos player. Good lord that's a feels bad.

But given the gap between the last time they were acknowledged... kinda makes me feel less bad? I mean, did you play Sisters in 5th edition? Only been waiting like 10 years for something other than sadness.

God lord, I play Sisters and Eldar, I must REALLY hate myself. Ah well, we'll just call it a fascination with "vintage" play, lol!

OMG Theres a sister player in this thread right now!

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 Nevelon wrote:
I might be the odd vote, but I like the fact that they might just reduce all the harlis weapons to something simple.

Space Marines can have a number of different profiles of bolter weapon equal to the number of ranged weapons in the tau codex, but four melee weapons for Harlequins was JUST too much to keep track of.

As a very long time Drukhari player I'm glad my Craftworld cousins are going to be looking fly and hitting hard, well deserved and long awaited!

 the_scotsman wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
I might be the odd vote, but I like the fact that they might just reduce all the harlis weapons to something simple.

Space Marines can have a number of different profiles of bolter weapon equal to the number of ranged weapons in the tau codex, but four melee weapons for Harlequins was JUST too much to keep track of.

To be fair, I also think the marine armory is massively bloated. All those fancy little rules attached to the new guns can be either tossed, or move to a special rule on the squad. We don’t need special bespoke rules just because you have a fancy scope or a banana clip. 24” S4 rapid fire. All we need.

Again, keep that level of crunch in KT. Not the company scale game 40k has become.

I might occasionally have odd quirks, but at least I’m mostly internally consistant. (Unlike GW )

I asked about Harlequin weapons elsewhere and received a detailed breakdown of old vs. new.

I wasn't sure how I felt about the new rules either, but the detailed breakdown was enlightening.

There were still some unknown factors, even for the dude who broke it down for me- so I still haven't figured out how I feel.

For the time being, I'm more choked that there's a high probability that Quins will lose their subfaction bling, pivotal role rules and that they won't be getting meaningful bespoke Crusade content as a result of being jammed back into someone else's dex.

Jarms48 wrote:
I just wanted to say that humble pie for the title is pretty funny. I saw a playtester say this could be the first codex banned in tournaments because of how strong it is.

If you thought DE was bad... Apparently this codex is even stronger.

I expected that, Eldar have been OP every time they get a new book, sometimes for the entire duration of the book's existence. Hopefully the new quarterly balance passes will prevent Eldar from dominating another entire edition. I will probably switch back to Eldar for tournaments but it's not good for the game for any faction to dominate like that.

 Sim-Life wrote:
They could keep releasing Eldar for the next year. As long as its not more Primaris stuff I don't care.

I'd like it if they finally finished the Primaris line. The pause to paint was nice but filling out the line so people who go all primaris can have a well-rounded army would also be nice.


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SamusDrake wrote:
Could Warlocks be the new "Primaris Lieutenent" of 40K?

Ironically, we're missing a Primaris Lieutenant. Still no Gravis version.

Breton wrote:

 Sim-Life wrote:
They could keep releasing Eldar for the next year. As long as its not more Primaris stuff I don't care.

I'd like it if they finally finished the Primaris line. The pause to paint was nice but filling out the line so people who go all primaris can have a well-rounded army would also be nice.

You can't say the Primaris line isn't well-rounded at this point.

There are about 38 different Primaris units currently, and those are just the generic ones; not chapter specific stuff.

I'm pretty happy. I really liked everything that was revealed, and I'm content to start with this stuff.

I'd say that I do hope that there will be a second wave (and I bet there will be) at some point with more of the missing aspects, plus some new stuff. I really like the sniper bikers a lot. I'd love to see some kind of Fusion-Firedragon Vyper open-topped transport.


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Purifying Tempest wrote:
Thread starts out about the new Aeldari codex... devolves into SM and Drukhari chatter.

Poor Aeldari I'm just hoping my Aspect Warriors aren't hot garbage anymore. My Biel-tan army would like to say hello without my opponents having to make concessions for me to be able to hang in there.

Everything I've seen so far doesn't lead me to think the sky is falling here. I think its upside is going to be Drukhari, but will probably fall just short of that.

Edit: my biggest concern so far has been that I KNOW people are going to abuse Battle Focus to Move-Shoot-Move shenanigans with Obscuring Terrain - Move .1" to touch it, shoot through it, move .1" to not touch it. Peak frustration.

I know it's unlikely, but If you and I ever meet and play, I will not do this too you. I do not play or model for advantage. Ever!


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 DongShoreman wrote:
As a very long time Drukhari player I'm glad my Craftworld cousins are going to be looking fly and hitting hard, well deserved and long awaited!

Hey! I hope you guys get a better Archon model, an updated Archon's court, new Grotesque's, a new Haemonculus (The character one), and I think mandrakes? Is that all?

Breton wrote:

Ironically, we're missing a Primaris Lieutenant. Still no Gravis version.

And so the rivalry continues...

Toofast wrote:

Jarms48 wrote:
I just wanted to say that humble pie for the title is pretty funny. I saw a playtester say this could be the first codex banned in tournaments because of how strong it is.

If you thought DE was bad... Apparently this codex is even stronger.

I expected that, Eldar have been OP every time they get a new book, sometimes for the entire duration of the book's existence. Hopefully the new quarterly balance passes will prevent Eldar from dominating another entire edition. I will probably switch back to Eldar for tournaments but it's not good for the game for any faction to dominate like that.

The same reason the Eldar book is (almost) always so good will likely be the same reason why they will remain good and get touched with a silk touch ala Drukhari.

Someone important within the design team loves the army.