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I had a tab for GW open for the Tau Patrol box and noticed the price was now £90. Then look at the other Tau stuff and pretty much it's all gone up in price.

Considering these box sets are supposed to be the army introduction sets, but they don't really provide an "army" in most cases, I am assuming GW has given up entirely on encouraging kids into the game and as such, the future of the game.

I can say this in honesty - Tau are the last army I am collecting. Considering it's basically just a few sprues of plastic and the rising cost of everything else in life, I'm calling it there and just using what I have already own moving forward.

They announced the hike last month. Link

Not ideal, but with everything else going up it wasn't surprising.

 Strat_N8 wrote:
They announced the hike last month. Article

And existing thread in News & Rumors.

Recommended forum:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/forums/show/96.page

Sumilidon wrote:

I can say this in honesty - Tau are the last army I am collecting. Considering it's basically just a few sprues of plastic and the rising cost of everything else in life, I'm calling it there and just using what I have already own moving forward.

Nobody believes you.

ccs wrote:

Sumilidon wrote:

I can say this in honesty - Tau are the last army I am collecting. Considering it's basically just a few sprues of plastic and the rising cost of everything else in life, I'm calling it there and just using what I have already own moving forward.

Nobody believes you.

Honestly 40k has been such an extraordinary waste of money for so long it's hard to imagine this particular price increase being what does it. If you notice it in your budget maybe you should have stopped a long time ago.

I mean yeah, its a really expensive hobby. But a hike like this every year or so is really just prices staying the same. Its adjustment for inflation and increased cost of business.

The pricing has never really been that accessible for kids. Even back in 2e when I started playing. Game sizes were smaller of course, that's probably the biggest real terms change. But you can always play like 1000 points games to get that back.

While those metal/plastic kits got to a point where they were comparatively expensive compared to the following plastic kits, the game functioned much better for smaller armies back in 2nd, making it a better value.

But compare the price of two Warlocks from then to now. A pair in a blister pack was US$ 6.99? The new kit is $55. That's in no way commesurate to inflation, which is about 1.83 from 1995 to now.

There's also company practices, such as three SM codexes (at $50ish each) in four years.

Current GW pricing is a joke.

 Insectum7 wrote:
But compare the price of two Warlocks from then to now. A pair in a blister pack was US$ 6.99? The new kit is $55. That's in no way commesurate to inflation, which is about 1.83 from 1995 to now.

bUt ThEy HaVe A rEsPoNsIbIlItY tO sHaReHoLdErS!!!

Shrink the scale! Both epic40k and warmaster are growing in popularity again. Tons of places to get models from and the rules are being looked after by people who are passionate about game design and fair play.

28mm is fine for skirmish games with a handful of models. The price tag for 2,000 points of warhammer is simply unreasonable.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
But compare the price of two Warlocks from then to now. A pair in a blister pack was US$ 6.99? The new kit is $55. That's in no way commesurate to inflation, which is about 1.83 from 1995 to now.

bUt ThEy HaVe A rEsPoNsIbIlItY tO sHaReHoLdErS!!!

I can work with that!

The annual "GW raised prices?" thread I see. Legend. Been a thing since like the mid 1990s.

You should have seen people lose their mind when the plastic land raider debut in 2000 for $45. So many people quitting and calling for boycott. GW was going to die "any day now".

 auticus wrote:
The annual "GW raised prices?" thread I see. Legend. Been a thing since like the mid 1990s.

You should have seen people lose their mind when the plastic land raider debut in 2000 for $45. So many people quitting and calling for boycott. GW was going to die "any day now".

It's the "I'm above it all and you're all morons for being unhappy about GW raising their prices!" post. Legend. Been a thing since the mid 1990s.

Yep. That was totally my angle.

Or you know if you guys weren't such slaves to the "ecosystem" and chucking dump trucks of cash at GW regardless of the quality of their rules or the price points that they continue to set, the ruleset may not be garbage and they may not be able to sell $2.99 hobby knives for $30 that the whales shovel money at?

 auticus wrote:
Yep. That was totally my angle.

Or you know if you guys weren't such slaves to the "ecosystem" and chucking dump trucks of cash at GW regardless of the quality of their rules or the price points that they continue to set, the ruleset may not be garbage and they may not be able to sell $2.99 hobby knives for $30 that the whales shovel money at?

Well that's not a particularly good angle either, seeing as my GW spending has plummeted in the past few years because of their practices. So I wouldn't go labeling myself a "slave to their ecosystem" by a long shot.

I'm glad to hear it. There are however a lot of people that does apply to.

 auticus wrote:
Yep. That was totally my angle.

Or you know if you guys weren't such slaves to the "ecosystem" and chucking dump trucks of cash at GW regardless of the quality of their rules or the price points that they continue to set, the ruleset may not be garbage and they may not be able to sell $2.99 hobby knives for $30 that the whales shovel money at?

I've said this before & I'll repeat it again;
The problem is that the evil toy company keeps releasing minis I like.
If they'd just stop doing that they'd get a lot less of my $. Unfortunately they seem to realize that....

ccs wrote:

 auticus wrote:
Yep. That was totally my angle.

Or you know if you guys weren't such slaves to the "ecosystem" and chucking dump trucks of cash at GW regardless of the quality of their rules or the price points that they continue to set, the ruleset may not be garbage and they may not be able to sell $2.99 hobby knives for $30 that the whales shovel money at?

I've said this before & I'll repeat it again;
The problem is that the evil toy company keeps releasing minis I like.
If they'd just stop doing that they'd get a lot less of my $. Unfortunately they seem to realize that....

The minis aren't gonna go anywhere. If you patient at all it's not a problem, but instead we get people spending the money for poor practices because Malibu Stacy has a new hat.

EviscerationPlague wrote:

ccs wrote:

 auticus wrote:
Yep. That was totally my angle.

Or you know if you guys weren't such slaves to the "ecosystem" and chucking dump trucks of cash at GW regardless of the quality of their rules or the price points that they continue to set, the ruleset may not be garbage and they may not be able to sell $2.99 hobby knives for $30 that the whales shovel money at?

I've said this before & I'll repeat it again;
The problem is that the evil toy company keeps releasing minis I like.
If they'd just stop doing that they'd get a lot less of my $. Unfortunately they seem to realize that....

The minis aren't gonna go anywhere. If you patient at all it's not a problem, but instead we get people spending the money for poor practices because Malibu Stacy has a new hat.

Nothing goes over your head, does it?
It's not about when I buy models. It's about other people having a problem that I buy them.

Sumilidon wrote:

I can say this in honesty - Tau are the last army I am collecting. Considering it's basically just a few sprues of plastic and the rising cost of everything else in life, I'm calling it there and just using what I have already own moving forward.

"I'm just gonna fill this one last hole with money then I'm done."

Or just don't buy any? Punishing GW by collecting an army is a weird way to go about things but you do you.


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ccs wrote:

EviscerationPlague wrote:

ccs wrote:

 auticus wrote:
Yep. That was totally my angle.

Or you know if you guys weren't such slaves to the "ecosystem" and chucking dump trucks of cash at GW regardless of the quality of their rules or the price points that they continue to set, the ruleset may not be garbage and they may not be able to sell $2.99 hobby knives for $30 that the whales shovel money at?

I've said this before & I'll repeat it again;
The problem is that the evil toy company keeps releasing minis I like.
If they'd just stop doing that they'd get a lot less of my $. Unfortunately they seem to realize that....

The minis aren't gonna go anywhere. If you patient at all it's not a problem, but instead we get people spending the money for poor practices because Malibu Stacy has a new hat.

Nothing goes over your head, does it?
It's not about when I buy models. It's about other people having a problem that I buy them.

There are ways to get GW models that doesn't give money to GW.

I know that the new price hikes have deterred some of my group's spending habits, which is fine as it means we can attack the grey without adding any more on top of it. There are also other games out there that have a chance at being played due to cheaper price points like SW Legion and so on.

What would be interesting is to see how this affects competitive Warhammer player who have to continuously update and buy new stuff/armies every change to the game.

Plus, with what's going on in the real world I would not be surprised if we see more price hikes in the immediate future.

 Gregor Samsa wrote:
Shrink the scale! Both epic40k and warmaster are growing in popularity again. Tons of places to get models from and the rules are being looked after by people who are passionate about game design and fair play.

28mm is fine for skirmish games with a handful of models. The price tag for 2,000 points of warhammer is simply unreasonable.

People wanted Epic back years ago. What did GW do? They gave us Titanicus. And even after two years there is not a single vehicle or infantry base in sight. Pathetic!

 Sim-Life wrote:

Sumilidon wrote:

I can say this in honesty - Tau are the last army I am collecting. Considering it's basically just a few sprues of plastic and the rising cost of everything else in life, I'm calling it there and just using what I have already own moving forward.

"I'm just gonna fill this one last hole with money then I'm done."

Or just don't buy any? Punishing GW by collecting an army is a weird way to go about things but you do you.

Mostly because I'm 95% of the way there to finishing it and have a few holes to plug to make it into a viable and fun army.


Here's a question for everyone however. What is the age distribution at your local club? Over the last 10 years, has it just been the younger people getting old or are you seeing new young people getting into the hobby? He's what I am seeing from my local clubs - increasingly older men (as I am) with adult money to spend, but no new blood coming into the clubs under the age of 25 unless it's a kid of one of the members.

GW is doing well to stoke the nostalgia of it's older players to get back into the hobby - but when they move on, who will replace them?

As for rising costs, this from Insectum7 sums it up perfectly:

But compare the price of two Warlocks from then to now. A pair in a blister pack was US$ 6.99? The new kit is $55. That's in no way commesurate to inflation, which is about 1.83 from 1995 to now.

Welcome to the world of plastic to everything.

tneva82 wrote:
Welcome to the world of plastic to everything.

Right? We're in a time at the moment where various factors (some global, some specific to the UK) are causing costs to soar across the board. Getting pretty grimdark out there.

 Stux wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Welcome to the world of plastic to everything.

Right? We're in a time at the moment where various factors (some global, some specific to the UK) are causing costs to soar across the board. Getting pretty grimdark out there.

When a Drop Pod is priced at $50 against two Warlocks costing $55, it's not the price of the @#*&ing plastic.

Utility prices in the UK have gone through the roof. I’m not surprised that they need to put prices up as the cost of running their factories etc must be eye watering now

the point is, they need to put prices up to maintain a growth in profit

not because they might be making no profit or are on the edge of not being able to pay their stuff

but simply because next years profit (the money that is left over after everything is paid) is higher than last years profit

 Insectum7 wrote:

 Stux wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Welcome to the world of plastic to everything.

Right? We're in a time at the moment where various factors (some global, some specific to the UK) are causing costs to soar across the board. Getting pretty grimdark out there.

When a Drop Pod is priced at $50 against two Warlocks costing $55, it's not the price of the @#*&ing plastic.

Its not literally just the plastic...

Everything is getting more expensive. And when has the amount of plastic dictated the price anyway?

I mean why not? People will keep paying it. My genestealer characters went from like 20 something to 36 a model in just 3 years. I'm sure people will try and justify it but it's hilarious to try and make sense of it when their profits never dipped below 40%. Which is an insane number. But hey I can't judge. I'm still buying them up even to this day.