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 Strg Alt wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Maybe fear of not doing them justice. If the Squats will be saddled with awful looking vehicles like the Primaris line then it will quickly turn into a dumpster fire.

Luckily they aren't worth taking right now anyway. I don't hate them but why do they all have to hover?

Well if the new GW aesthetic doesn’t float your boat then there are several full sets of printable squat forces from very close to the original quilted armour dudes to different variations of the tiny egg-shaped duders. And guaranteed it will be cheaper to buy a printer and all the required gubbins alongside the files than it will be to buy the plastics from GW.

It’s really nice to see them coming back though. No more counts as required.

Great... More Humans. And yet another faction to add mountains of rules I will never even crack the book of and to extend the rotation and development times of more interesting content.

I guess that does it for me.
Battle Droid army it is.

Very cool of them... If that's all the originality they've got for their look, I have feeling we'll see a few rounds of redesign, a la Stormcast Eternals (who weren't too plain, but rather too derpy).

 Overread wrote:
Perhaps they'll be a bit like Ossiarchs from AoS

Slow, but relentless. Really heavy armour, slow speed, few transport options and few long range weapons, but a lot of good medium to closer range weapons.

So no a close combat army, and not a pure gun-line army.

Granted historically they had a lot of vehicles and such so were pretty much a heavy gunline mechanised army.

You are confusing Epic with 40K. In 40K they had access to vintage Imperial vehicles and their trademark bikes/trikes. Apart from that there were zero signature vehicles. Heck, they didn´t even had a dreadnought like anybody else.

I have one massive concern regarding this: do we now need to stop referring units and factions that are being removed from the game as being 'squatted'?

 Crimson wrote:
I have one massive concern regarding this: do we now need to stop referring units and factions that are being removed from the game as being 'squatted'?

We can't even say they got Corsair'd

I guess we gotta settle for Bretonnia'd or Tomb King'd

Racerguy180 wrote:
If the Hearthguard, Thudds & Bikes look Squatty I guess that's the direction I'll go. I didn't have any Troopers BITD cuz bikes & trikes are where my love lays down.

But the new Trooper just doesn't hit the same as when I saw & then held Grendl in my grubby mitts. I think I'll continue to use Khardrons for my infantry(was already working on HS gunners using Thunderers w kitbashed 40k weapons).


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 Rinkydink wrote:
It will be interesting to see if any of the old Epic vehicles make it. Goliath Mega Cannon, Land Train, Colossus (All too big surely!?) Iron Eagle Gyro and Overlord etc.

A 40k scale overlord would be sooooooo dope. I love my LEAD Zeppelin and wouldn't mind a plastic 28mm scale one...

I don´t think they will give them bikes this time as they used to ridicule those models back in the day being stunty macho bikers.

 Crimson wrote:
I have one massive concern regarding this: do we now need to stop referring units and factions that are being removed from the game as being 'squatted'?

Nope. They're getting a name change, so 'Squatted' stays. Anything else that comes back gets 'Votanned'

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
I have one massive concern regarding this: do we now need to stop referring units and factions that are being removed from the game as being 'squatted'?

We can't even say they got Corsair'd

I guess we gotta settle for Bretonnia'd or Tomb King'd

Settra’d

 Strg Alt wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
If the Hearthguard, Thudds & Bikes look Squatty I guess that's the direction I'll go. I didn't have any Troopers BITD cuz bikes & trikes are where my love lays down.

But the new Trooper just doesn't hit the same as when I saw & then held Grendl in my grubby mitts. I think I'll continue to use Khardrons for my infantry(was already working on HS gunners using Thunderers w kitbashed 40k weapons).


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 Rinkydink wrote:
It will be interesting to see if any of the old Epic vehicles make it. Goliath Mega Cannon, Land Train, Colossus (All too big surely!?) Iron Eagle Gyro and Overlord etc.

A 40k scale overlord would be sooooooo dope. I love my LEAD Zeppelin and wouldn't mind a plastic 28mm scale one...

I don´t think they will give them bikes this time as they used to ridicule those models back in the day being stunty macho bikers.

Bikes and trikes along the lines of the Atalan prospector types would work, though I also wouldn't be surprised to see more nods to Van Saar tech and have smaller skimmer bikes.
Basic trooper also shares quite a bit of a silhouette with a little Kastalan robot

I think this is a bad idea, if only because GW has enough lines they don’t bother updating. When did Emperor’s Children last get something? How often does guard get something?

Voss wrote:

Irdiumstern wrote:

 Eldarsif wrote:
I am just going to wish all the dwarf lovers congratulations with Squats coming back. Not my cup of tea(I am an elf lover), but happy that others are getting something they will enjoy for years to come.

At this point the only clock left on the GW wall is the plastic Thunderhawk one.

Plastic Thunderhawk already happened, it was for Aeronautica.

We are officially out of clocks.

\eyes berserker clock, sonic weapons clock, Exodite clock, Enslaver clock, Hyper-violent Barghessi clock, Blood Pact clock...
Nah. We've got clocks for days yet.

Bloodpact had a model as a dark vengeance cultist leader

Strg Alt wrote:

Racerguy180 wrote:
If the Hearthguard, Thudds & Bikes look Squatty I guess that's the direction I'll go. I didn't have any Troopers BITD cuz bikes & trikes are where my love lays down.

But the new Trooper just doesn't hit the same as when I saw & then held Grendl in my grubby mitts. I think I'll continue to use Khardrons for my infantry(was already working on HS gunners using Thunderers w kitbashed 40k weapons).


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 Rinkydink wrote:
It will be interesting to see if any of the old Epic vehicles make it. Goliath Mega Cannon, Land Train, Colossus (All too big surely!?) Iron Eagle Gyro and Overlord etc.

A 40k scale overlord would be sooooooo dope. I love my LEAD Zeppelin and wouldn't mind a plastic 28mm scale one...

I don´t think they will give them bikes this time as they used to ridicule those models back in the day being stunty macho bikers.

I'm down with them ditching the biker gang look(as much as mine were totally Hells Angels), but since they're slow moving, having Rotundus portable rapid wheeled movement makes sense.

I hope the Squats get an ED-209 like in Age of Wonders: Planetfall. I love the small, shooty dreadnought.

EC were beaten to their own codex by squats

wonderful

 Marshal Loss wrote:
EC were beaten to their own codex by squats

wonderful

I love it too. 40K has way too many factions running around in power armour. Nice to get a breath of fresh air once in a while.

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I think this is a bad idea, if only because GW has enough lines they don’t bother updating. When did Emperor’s Children last get something? How often does guard get something?

They got a box of Veterans and an upgrade sprue for Cadians fairly recently...

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
EC were beaten to their own codex by squats

wonderful

I love it too. 40K has way too many factions running around in power armour. Nice to get a breath of fresh air once in a while.

Yeah, ngl, this is actually pretty cool, for diversity's sake.

Space Dwarves may not seem all that different from regular humans, but it looks like these guys are going to have a tech-level that's somewhere between Imperium and Tau, which will be a unique-enough spot to stick them. It also doesn't really sound like they'll be an 'Imperium' faction, but something else? Not quite Xenos... but this COULD open up ally options for other Xenos that don't otherwise have allies, like Orks and Tau.

I really like the look of this initial model, but I hope a squad like this has helmeted heads too, or at least some cool techy kharadron style mask.

All these pages since the reveal but no discussion on the other models silhouettes yet?
I thought there’d be much talk about what each could be..

edit: covered

Danny76 wrote:
All these pages since the reveal but no discussion on the other models silhouettes yet?
I thought there’d be much talk about what each could be..

I mean, most of them look just like regular Infantry, tbh.

drbored wrote:
It also doesn't really sound like they'll be an 'Imperium' faction, but something else? Not quite Xenos... but this COULD open up ally options for other Xenos that don't otherwise have allies, like Orks and Tau.

i think thats just GW both setting the groundwork for squats vs imperial factions (becuase everyone needs to be able to fight everyone), and explaining why we havent seen much of them in recent lore: they have "always" existed, but tend to hang to themselves in thier core worlds area and only interact with the wider imperium at arms length. My read is they are like the Admech or the Knight worlds: technically under imperial authority, but a sovereign entity within the wider imperium with its own rights and privilages, mostly self governing, and too difficult to "break" to be worth the effort while bigger problems exist.

Regular infantry sure maybe.
But pick axe? Other weapons?. Shoulder Mount thing? Other fun?

Nice, and even 3rd party like I was hoping
I do agree that armor is kind of generic. Hopefully these are just shock troops and the line grunts are more in the necromundan style squats.

 Crimson wrote:

 Galas wrote:

I don't think those are ankles. They look like they have cybernetic feet to me. Like, amputees.

Sure, I know that. But that they're robo-ankles doesn't really matter for the point I was making.

This gonna be their grimdark body horror shtick, they all pragmatically chop off their short little legs and use prosthetics so they can walk faster. Awkward that AdMech already have the exact same shtick.

So far I like Mantic's design better even if they're a bit flanderized with metal beards on tanks and so on.

I think it's clear where Cawl got some of his new tech from...

Danny76 wrote:
Regular infantry sure maybe.
But pick axe? Other weapons?. Shoulder Mount thing? Other fun?

One of the silhouettes at least showed a pickaxe

Have to say I'm delighted! Not what I was expecting but I love the hi-tech look. There are definite design references to Kharadrons, wondering what their helmets will look like- hoping for some sort of stylised ancestor face mask.
Sounds like there's an army box coming first- probably in the summer I'm guessing? With a full release 2 months later? I'm also really looking forward to the articles describing there background, seeing more art and more models as well as the fluff. Love what I've read so far- not an imperium force.
Totally excited for their release and can't wait to start painting and building. Better get on with my Nids in the meantime..


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Danny76 wrote:
Regular infantry sure maybe.
But pick axe? Other weapons?. Shoulder Mount thing? Other fun?

One of them has a heavy/special weapon by the looks of it. Look like the basic combat unit built with close assault or ranged and a sarge type character.


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 ProfSrlojohn wrote:
Nice, and even 3rd party like I was hoping
I do agree that armor is kind of generic. Hopefully these are just shock troops and the line grunts are more in the necromundan style squats.

He's described as a basic trooper so I doubt it. I looked at the Kharadrons and the dwarf-ness comes from an ancestor face on a buckle and the helmet [which we haven't seen for these guys]. I'd like a bit more dwarf vibe too but thats probably for more elite type troops and characters.
The Necromunda squats look to be using more imperium -type gear, personally I like the distinction but I appreciate some may not.