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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 12:16:32
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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While it's clear from the paint jobGW is envisioning the trike as having an energy based hover field coming off those discs you could add a propeller blade on top of the nut in the middle disc ( or depending on how the model is laid out on the sprue perhaps ditch the discs completley for a more concealed propeller) edit: and the more i look at it the more i want to remove that shotgun case as it looks to clunky where it's attached on the front (as well as looking too small to fit the gun in her hand, although that could be perspective.... but i think not)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 12:20:27
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: ( or depending on how the model is laid out on the sprue perhaps ditch the discs completley for a more concealed propeller)
You can't, actually. It's not a tricycle unless it has three round thingies.
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Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 12:25:44
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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KillerAngel wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote: Also, you are aware that she's supposed to be in battle? You sort of want to be able to use a weapon effectively when you're getting shot at.
I said don't overthink it! I'm sure Squat physiology is more than capable of using a fictional shotgun effectively one handed.
Fair enough, apparently they are S4 now. Automatically Appended Next Post: That looks way better. The bald screamy face wasn't doing the model any favors. I hope there are extra head options, because otherwise you'd have a small choir of angry bikers.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2022/05/06 12:28:04
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 12:29:21
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I didn't even notice the wheels at first and thought you had only improved on the head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 12:34:12
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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BertBert wrote:
I didn't even notice the wheels at first and thought you had only improved on the head.
Oh wow I missed the wheels too
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 20221/05/06 13:52:19
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Terrifying Doombull
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Oh. It took me multiple reposts of the model to figure out one of my problems with it is the driver's pants are painted the same color as the bike, and I couldn't figure out how she was sitting or what that particular piece of armor was for.
It makes more sense now. I still don't particularly like it, and the bike seems far too big, especially with that puny-for-Warhammer built-in gun, but at least I can grasp what's what in the photo.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 13:59:57
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Using Object Source Lighting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 14:30:59
Subject: Re:Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I must admit when I first saw the picture, before I read the article, I found myself wondering...is that Squat rider male or female? I couldn't at first decide whether the lack of beard meant it was just a young male or whether it was meant to show a female rider.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 15:02:35
Subject: Re:Squats return! - Page 11
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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Mentlegen324 wrote: Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote: Mentlegen324 wrote: Some_Call_Me_Tim wrote:What’s funny to me is how much of the bikes internal stuff is recycled mechanics from some of the ork buggies
I've seen this sort of thing mentioned a few times but I don't get it, what do you mean?
Since they use a 3d design thing, it’s very easy to just reuse elements used on other 3d designed models. As such, the suspensions from ork buggies were used in this, which is kinda funny, meaning orks are using old age stc tech, or stc’s are very bad.
Having a quick look at the various ork buggies, I can't tell which suspensions you're referring to specifically.
Looks like the back bits on the scrapjet, they’re kinda obscured behind the tracks though, so you have to basically leave off the wheels to see it fully.
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"Us Blood Axes hav lernt' a lot from da humies. How best ta kill 'em, fer example."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 15:14:15
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
That looks way better. The bald screamy face wasn't doing the model any favors.
I hope there are extra head options, because otherwise you'd have a small choir of angry bikers.
I'd buy this model.
The standard version? Nope- not even remotely interested. GW needs to improve their track record on hover vehicles- they always get it right with Eldar, but marines are hit or miss and Admech hover is bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 15:24:10
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Tweaked version looks like a happy meal toy. The original version is perfectly fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 15:54:14
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kanluwen wrote:Tweaked version looks like a happy meal toy. The original version is perfectly fine.
That “tweaked” one is exactly what did in the squats last time, they need to try new things with a nod to the past, not recreate a line that didn’t work before and wouldn’t again. Odd that changing the female head to male seems to appeal to so many, I mean I am sure there will be multiple head options but surely having females in a faction isn’t soo bad is it???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 16:28:26
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Andykp wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Tweaked version looks like a happy meal toy. The original version is perfectly fine.
That “tweaked” one is exactly what did in the squats last time, they need to try new things with a nod to the past, not recreate a line that didn’t work before and wouldn’t again. Odd that changing the female head to male seems to appeal to so many, I mean I am sure there will be multiple head options but surely having females in a faction isn’t soo bad is it???
No it wasn't. The reason the Squats were removed was because their theming in terms of tabletop miniatures revolved heavily around them being silly biker dwarfs with the name "Squats", rather than them having done the whole stoic hardy master-craftsmen fantasy Dwarf Archetype justice. They can have bikes and trikes, but making them overall an army of bikers was just too much. They didn't work because they weren't properly fantasy dwarfs. Jervis Johnson said the direction they'd gone for in Epic - Gryocopters, Landtrains, the Colossus - with their warmachines was said to be something that they should have done instead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:07:29
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Andykp wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Tweaked version looks like a happy meal toy. The original version is perfectly fine.
That “tweaked” one is exactly what did in the squats last time, they need to try new things with a nod to the past, not recreate a line that didn’t work before and wouldn’t again. Odd that changing the female head to male seems to appeal to so many, I mean I am sure there will be multiple head options but surely having females in a faction isn’t soo bad is it???
That was supposed to be a female?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:08:33
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So, how about them necromunda squats...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:10:16
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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Andykp wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Tweaked version looks like a happy meal toy. The original version is perfectly fine.
That “tweaked” one is exactly what did in the squats last time, they need to try new things with a nod to the past, not recreate a line that didn’t work before and wouldn’t again. Odd that changing the female head to male seems to appeal to so many, I mean I am sure there will be multiple head options but surely having females in a faction isn’t soo bad is it???
Just my opinion: The issue is when most people think of a dwarf, they think bearded. I wouldn't care if the rider were female if they showed her hair. With the cap on, the model seems too featureless. The lack of contrast in the paint job is definitely detracting from the aesthetic. Not impressed. I think a better paint scheme would make all the difference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:11:28
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Certainly more Squat like than these Votaan imposters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:13:55
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Andykp wrote: Kanluwen wrote:Tweaked version looks like a happy meal toy. The original version is perfectly fine.
That “tweaked” one is exactly what did in the squats last time, they need to try new things with a nod to the past, not recreate a line that didn’t work before and wouldn’t again. Odd that changing the female head to male seems to appeal to so many, I mean I am sure there will be multiple head options but surely having females in a faction isn’t soo bad is it???
This is not a question of gender. If the model design is bad the mini as a whole will suck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:16:46
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
United States
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Honestly, I really dislike them. They remind me of something from the gates of antares.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:29:07
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I really don't know. I like them a bit more than the Hearthkyn, at least. They look like miners too which i suppose is good.
They feel a bit closer to Dwarfs than the other models do, but it's again small decisions in their direction that have a big negative impact; they overall look generic again. Their helmets seem to be a reference to the original models, which is kind of neat, but the armour design is once again something that means the iconic aspect of the fantasy dwarf archetype isn't possible - the great big bushy beards.
It's fairly clear at this stage that they aren't doing an update of Squats, or a unique interesting take on Dwarfs like the Kharadron Overlords were, or something that feels overly fantasy dwarf in general. Just generic sci-fi with absurd design choices. That's just such a disappointment to me considering how much i was looking forward to them. Grendlesen was an awesome Miniature but nothing they've shown of any of these has made me feel that "Space Dwarfs in 40k, awesome, I need it" that he did.
Things are just all over the place like they had no idea what they're doing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:34:21
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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It may be the shading, but it looks like the lady Squat on the trike at least has stubble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:53:48
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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"While they’re not part of the Leagues, we’re sure they’d still get on with the Kin who are all grumbling about the Aeldari while sitting in the pub."
Seems like squats are not leagues of votann
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:55:45
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Regular Dakkanaut
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 art for the new models in necromunda
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 17:58:41
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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An amazing show. You should definitely watch. No jokes here. Watch. It's awesome. Automatically Appended Next Post:
HOOK IT TO MY VEINS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 18:00:36
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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blaktoof wrote:"While they’re not part of the Leagues, we’re sure they’d still get on with the Kin who are all grumbling about the Aeldari while sitting in the pub."
Seems like squats are not leagues of votann
They shouldn´t be grumbling about Eldar (what does Aeldari even mean?!) but rather defend their Ash Wastes brewery from grot raids.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 18:01:30
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I mean they are and they aren't.
They're both Squats in the same way that British explorers and a never-before-seen African tribe are both human. Same trunk, different branch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 18:11:46
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Terrifying Doombull
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Culturally, they're short, insular people that ride around in mobile fortresses, scavenge junk and anger the locals. So they're jawas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 18:13:50
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Voss wrote:Culturally, they're short, insular people that ride around in mobile fortresses, scavenge junk and anger the locals. So they're jawas.
*raises mug of ale* "Utini!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 18:14:21
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Voss wrote:Culturally, they're short, insular people that ride around in mobile fortresses, scavenge junk and anger the locals. So they're jawas.
I just spat my drink out all over my keyboard.  Thanks for that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/05/06 18:34:01
Subject: Squats return! - Page 11
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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well i guess nobody saw this coming
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