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I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Well if it's a helical magazine that feeds aft to fore, it's... relatively in the right place. But two barrels? Yeah, that's something special. I'll probably give mine the ol' snip snip.
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
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I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Well if it's a helical magazine that feeds aft to fore, it's... relatively in the right place. But two barrels? Yeah, that's something special. I'll probably give mine the ol' snip snip.
The magazine could have two separate feeding ports side by side. Internally, the left side of the mag feeds the bottom barrel, the right side feeds the upper barrel. Two separate followers to push the round into the chamber. Honestly though, who cares? It's all fiction nonsense. If it's fun, go with it.
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It's just odd that they'd do a 40k version of the fantasy dwarf archetype but take away/not bother with what is perhaps the most iconic element of the whole idea. I get that the original miniatures didn't really have them to a significant degree, but Grendlesen had a big beard and he was a great miniature that felt right for an update of the originals. To have the armour of the new ones in such a way that you can't have that sort of beard at all is baffling.
After looking at them more I do quite like these new Necromunda Squat miniatures (other than the double barrel weapon thing) but the lack of proper beards isn't a good thing.
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between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
So the verdict is out. Cash Wastes is too expensive and the Squat guns don´t work. Nobody will buy nothing then. What a relief. Turn off your computers people and go to sleep.
I like the Necromunda squats. I don't like the hover trike. I wish they weren't making a point of keeping the Necromunda squats out of Leagues of Votann armies.
Not sure why GW would want to do something that unnecessarily limits the size of a new range by depriving it of a perfectly reasonable kit.
blaktoof wrote: "While they’re not part of the Leagues, we’re sure they’d still get on with the Kin who are all grumbling about the Aeldari while sitting in the pub."
Seems like squats are not leagues of votann
The article seems to lay out their relationship. They are the descendants of explorers that left the home worlds and settled down on Necromunda (and maybe other worlds too?), and "gone native". Maybe their gear looks more beat up because they have had to get by without the help of their ancestor cores. A read of an unboxing video for the Ash Wastes also mentions how the terraforming structures called Needles were erected by itinerant clans of Squats, and now maintained by their descendants.
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The magazine/barrel problem in the gun is one thing, but it has an iron sight front post that is lower than the gun casing immediately behind it, on a gun that is supposed to be fired from the hip. And is that supposed to be some kind of optical sight eyepiece at the back?
No. GW does not know anything about guns.
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Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Well if it's a helical magazine that feeds aft to fore, it's... relatively in the right place. But two barrels? Yeah, that's something special. I'll probably give mine the ol' snip snip.
The magazine could have two separate feeding ports side by side. Internally, the left side of the mag feeds the bottom barrel, the right side feeds the upper barrel. Two separate followers to push the round into the chamber. Honestly though, who cares? It's all fiction nonsense. If it's fun, go with it.
If it's a helical magazine, which it looks like, can't have two sides feeding two barrels. If it's three separate drums, you could have one feeding one barrel, one feeding another (and a third there for lulz) but then you need a second ejection port (maybe on left side?). I'm totally fine with the "if it's fun, go with it" but I think a single barrel fed by a large helical mag is just way more fun.
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Flinty wrote: The magazine/barrel problem in the gun is one thing, but it has an iron sight front post that is lower than the gun casing immediately behind it, on a gun that is supposed to be fired from the hip. And is that supposed to be some kind of optical sight eyepiece at the back?
No. GW does not know anything about guns.
Design Team: The front sight is too low, we need to raise the front sight.
GW Exec: What, raise prices? Okay!
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The lore mentioned for these sounds like the sort of thing the Leagues themselves should have involved; being skilled miners and salvagers who roam around in absurdly huge mining machines and take everything they can from an area before leaving to set up elsewhere. Basically Dwarf Jawas.
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
Ah, I had assumed you were referring to the absurd "Orks can change reality to do anything they want" meme. Is that "finding no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper" actually a specific piece of lore somewhere though?
blaktoof wrote: "While they’re not part of the Leagues, we’re sure they’d still get on with the Kin who are all grumbling about the Aeldari while sitting in the pub."
Seems like squats are not leagues of votann
They shouldn´t be grumbling about Eldar (what does Aeldari even mean?!) but rather defend their Ash Wastes brewery from grot raids.
They should be helping Zargul defend their mines from McDeath.
Really like the Miner Squats - not so keen on the grav trike or the other ones
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Mentlegen324 wrote: The lore mentioned for these sounds like the sort of thing the Leagues themselves should have involved; being skilled miners and salvagers who roam around in absurdly huge mining machines and take everything they can from an area before leaving to set up elsewhere. Basically Dwarf Jawas.
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
Ah, I had assumed you were referring to the absurd "Orks can change reality to do anything they want" meme. Is that "finding no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper" actually a specific piece of lore somewhere though?
Sort of, there's several mentions of techpriests getting ahold of ork guns and them not capable of even functioning outside of ork hands. Like, you open it and there's not even a firing mechanism, just a tube. But the Orks think "It looks like a shoota, so it's a shoota, innit?" so it works in their hands and theirs alone. Apparently many just fall apart into pieces when someone grabs one.
Interesting small aspect of the article, mentions "grumbling about the Aeldari while sitting in the pub." which implies they might have the usual trope of Dwarfs enjoying drinking a lot.
Mentlegen324 wrote: The lore mentioned for these sounds like the sort of thing the Leagues themselves should have involved; being skilled miners and salvagers who roam around in absurdly huge mining machines and take everything they can from an area before leaving to set up elsewhere. Basically Dwarf Jawas.
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
Ah, I had assumed you were referring to the absurd "Orks can change reality to do anything they want" meme. Is that "finding no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper" actually a specific piece of lore somewhere though?
Sort of, there's several mentions of techpriests getting ahold of ork guns and them not capable of even functioning outside of ork hands. Like, you open it and there's not even a firing mechanism, just a tube. But the Orks think "It looks like a shoota, so it's a shoota, innit?" so it works in their hands and theirs alone. Apparently many just fall apart into pieces when someone grabs one.
That type of specific example is the sort of meme lore that gets commonly claimed about the idea as being a thing "somewhere" but no one is able to give a source, quote or seems to have actually read it themselves. It's how the Mechancus theorizes things work, but it's not actually how the the lore says Ork technology or their abilities works at all.
Sort of, there's several mentions of techpriests getting ahold of ork guns and them not capable of even functioning outside of ork hands. Like, you open it and there's not even a firing mechanism, just a tube. But the Orks think "It looks like a shoota, so it's a shoota, innit?" so it works in their hands and theirs alone. Apparently many just fall apart into pieces when someone grabs one.
Ork Hunters of Armageddon used Ork weapons successfully on a regular basis (and had rules as per the 3rd War for Armageddeon global campaign website). Ork weaponry does not work exclusively for Orks.
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
Ah, I had assumed you were referring to the absurd "Orks can change reality to do anything they want" meme. Is that "finding no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper" actually a specific piece of lore somewhere though?
Sort of, there's several mentions of techpriests getting ahold of ork guns and them not capable of even functioning outside of ork hands. Like, you open it and there's not even a firing mechanism, just a tube. But the Orks think "It looks like a shoota, so it's a shoota, innit?" so it works in their hands and theirs alone. Apparently many just fall apart into pieces when someone grabs one.
That type of specific example is the sort of meme lore that gets commonly claimed about the idea as being a thing "somewhere" but no one is able to give a source, quote or seems to have actually read it themselves. It's how the Mechancus theorizes things work, but it's not actually how the the lore says Ork technology or their abilities works at all.
Yeah, that’s just 4chan meme flanderisation; the one piece of actual lore that proposes the subconscious psychokinesis hypothesis is written from the perspective of a magos biologis who was studying orkoid reproduction and went off on a tangent into fields he was entirely unqualified to comment on. The Internet, desperate to grasp any straw that perpetuates the “Orks are incompetent apes” stereotype, jumped on it and blew it out of all proportion.
Ork guns do work for non-Orks, as do their vehicles (once you figure out that there’s two accelerator pedals and no brakes. Or clutch) and some other bits. Multiple lore segments and even in-game rules testify to that. Also, even if an Ork device falls apart in the hands of a non-Ork, is that because Meks are toddlers playing with craft glue and popsicle sticks or because that Mek decided he didn’t want anyone to loot his gear and get away with it so built it to self destruct?
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
between the trike and these guys. I'm not sure about the guns. Its like they are taking 2 random guns and blending them weirdly.
I really don't get how the 2 barrels here are meant to work considering where the ammo is.
Or where the ejection port is, for that matter.
GW definitely aren't gunsmiths.
Yeah it’s like they saw a Calico pistol and thought “hey, let’s combine that with a Lawgiver” but completely forgot they aren’t dealing with Orks who have the option of literally teleporting the shell from the magazine to the chamber.
That's not a thing with Orks, is it?
Yeah? I mean why not? The Adeptus Mechanicus keeps examining Ork gear and finding random weapons with no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper and get to the barrel so why not a micro tellyporta? Would explain why a bunch of their bullet spitters also have batteries. Orks do after all have the second highest tech base in the setting. After the Jokaero.
I swear it’s like da yoof dese days fergot Ork accountants exist.
Ah, I had assumed you were referring to the absurd "Orks can change reality to do anything they want" meme. Is that "finding no way for the bullet to leave the ammo hopper" actually a specific piece of lore somewhere though?
Sort of, there's several mentions of techpriests getting ahold of ork guns and them not capable of even functioning outside of ork hands. Like, you open it and there's not even a firing mechanism, just a tube. But the Orks think "It looks like a shoota, so it's a shoota, innit?" so it works in their hands and theirs alone. Apparently many just fall apart into pieces when someone grabs one.
That type of specific example is the sort of meme lore that gets commonly claimed about the idea as being a thing "somewhere" but no one is able to give a source, quote or seems to have actually read it themselves. It's how the Mechancus theorizes things work, but it's not actually how the the lore says Ork technology or their abilities works at all.
Yeah, that’s just 4chan meme flanderisation; the one piece of actual lore that proposes the subconscious psychokinesis hypothesis is written from the perspective of a magos biologis who was studying orkoid reproduction and went off on a tangent into fields he was entirely unqualified to comment on. The Internet, desperate to grasp any straw that perpetuates the “Orks are incompetent apes” stereotype, jumped on it and blew it out of all proportion.
Ork guns do work for non-Orks, as do their vehicles (once you figure out that there’s two accelerator pedals and no brakes. Or clutch) and some other bits. Multiple lore segments and even in-game rules testify to that.
Also, even if an Ork device falls apart in the hands of a non-Ork, is that because Meks are toddlers playing with craft glue and popsicle sticks or because that Mek decided he didn’t want anyone to loot his gear and get away with it so built it to self destruct?
firmlog wrote: I like it except for the handgun/revolver/slide shotgun. It just doesn't make sense to me, and made me feel uncomfortable looking at it.
Whoever designed it reminds me of politicians that say things like "it has a 30 caliber clipazine that can dispense 100 bullets in 8 seconds" or "we need to ban barrel shrouds and shoulder things that go up"
firmlog wrote: I like it except for the handgun/revolver/slide shotgun. It just doesn't make sense to me, and made me feel uncomfortable looking at it.
Whoever designed it reminds me of politicians that say things like "it has a 30 caliber clipazine that can dispense 100 bullets in 8 seconds" or "we need to ban barrel shrouds and shoulder things that go up"
I remember busting up laughing when she said that.
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