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I think that what has been demonstrated so far in this thread is that most people can't spell 'skein'
Jokes aside, very interested to see where they take the fluff. The art is gorgeous, and the gold decorative bits on one of the new portraits has that hint of dwarfishness that was missing a little from the others.
Segersgia wrote: I do agree that Chaos-Kin is a little to early to wishlist as a faction, but atleast speculating on it won't do any harm. There are major factions in the lore that deserve a codex before this ever becomes a reality.
It feels like we've skipped right to the endgame in this discussion, taking an interest in Chaos Squats to mean dedicated models and a codex.
I'd argue the possibility of Chaos corruption in the fluff is plenty good for all kinds of people who want a lore friendly Chaos Squat in their Kill Team, or Cultist squad, or anything along those lines. If Squats are now being mary sued into another faction unbothered by the warp is not helping the setting, in my opinion. It removes an option for both stories and models for no good reason.
So I hope the actual fluff is going to be a little more nuanced than that article made it out to be. Not that I actually expect today's writers to do nuance.
Rakoun wrote: I think that what has been demonstrated so far in this thread is that most people can't spell 'skein'
How hard can it be? I before e, except after k, right?
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Mr_Rose wrote: They have the option of a full mask. It looks like the same visor with an additional armour section covering the lower face.
Yeah I quite like those two helmets - I wonder if there will be any options in the kit. They are quite fun- they look like a design concept that didn't make the cut for the full range but would work as an offshoot. I think they could be fun to kit bash with kharadron and probably the Votann kits when they arrive. In the meantime I might pick one set up to try out paint schemes for the Kin.
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I am planning to use Kharadron, Prospectors and Votann (and primaris for some weapons) for kitbashing my Squats. Good times ahead!
Holy crap. There are times when I mutter darkly about GW and it's practices, but these new squats / Votanni are extremely awesome. I've got to say this looks aesthetically closer to the new Votann style which is interesting.
I would love there to be a cross over onto the leagues from the necromunda stuff but I don’t think there’s any precedent for it, or am I wrong, please tell me I am wrong.
(And I know, no precedent doesn’t mean it can’t happen).
Andykp wrote: I would love there to be a cross over onto the leagues from the necromunda stuff but I don’t think there’s any precedent for it, or am I wrong, please tell me I am wrong.
(And I know, no precedent doesn’t mean it can’t happen).
Theres a precedent of some specialist games units getting added to the main 2 GW core games?
I feel like it would have been better with a central canopy integrated into the body than just a head sticking out in the middle like on Terminators and Dreadnoughts though. This sort of thing:
That style of mech / armoured suit isn't something that there's much of in the setting, whereas what they've gone for feels a little uninspired at this point.
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I feel like it would have been better with a central canopy integrated into the body than just a head sticking out in the middle like on Terminators and Dreadnoughts though. This sort of thing:
That's what I was thinking too. The head sticking out of the chest doesn't look right.
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Andykp wrote: I would love there to be a cross over onto the leagues from the necromunda stuff but I don’t think there’s any precedent for it, or am I wrong, please tell me I am wrong.
(And I know, no precedent doesn’t mean it can’t happen).
The yellow helmet is all Necromunda, but the suit's colors are suspiciously close to the showcase colors on the 40k Squats. One might wonder if GW is trying to tell us something.
Necromunda doesn't really have a history of crossover models, though. But there's always the option to just use the Necromunda Squats as stand ins in your 40k army. There's bound to be a unit that's a close enough fit.
I feel like it would have been better with a central canopy integrated into the body than just a head sticking out in the middle like on Terminators and Dreadnoughts though. This sort of thing:
That's what I was thinking too. The head sticking out of the chest doesn't look right.
I'm not a fan of the helmeted Dreadnought designs so I don't find this Squat eggsiting either, but eh, it's firmly established as a 40k thing. May as well make 40k models with 40k designs instead of drawing on other sci-fi. Especially with how the new Squats have invited comments of being generic sci-fi.
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Andykp wrote: I would love there to be a cross over onto the leagues from the necromunda stuff but I don’t think there’s any precedent for it, or am I wrong, please tell me I am wrong.
I feel like it would have been better with a central canopy integrated into the body than just a head sticking out in the middle like on Terminators and Dreadnoughts though. This sort of thing:
That's what I was thinking too. The head sticking out of the chest doesn't look right.
I'm not a fan of the helmeted Dreadnought designs so I don't find this Squat eggsiting either, but eh, it's firmly established as a 40k thing. May as well make 40k models with 40k designs instead of drawing on other sci-fi. Especially with how the new Squats have invited comments of being generic sci-fi.
It's something commonly seen on Imperial designs and not something that's really part of other non-Imperial armies though. They don't have to follow Imperial Aesthetics.
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lord_blackfang wrote: Brace yourselves, everyone and their dog scrambling to do non IP infringing space dwarf miners before any plastics hit the shelves
Tbf, I'm willing to entertain the possibility these were supposed to be Deep Rock Galactic based, and the Squat look is just a coincidence. Or they got changed at the last minute.
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Sure, sure, total coincidence they feature design choices very similar to that one guy we've seen. Tooooootal coinkydink. Yep.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Andykp wrote: I would love there to be a cross over onto the leagues from the necromunda stuff but I don’t think there’s any precedent for it, or am I wrong, please tell me I am wrong.
I feel like it would have been better with a central canopy integrated into the body than just a head sticking out in the middle like on Terminators and Dreadnoughts though. This sort of thing:
That's what I was thinking too. The head sticking out of the chest doesn't look right.
I'm not a fan of the helmeted Dreadnought designs so I don't find this Squat eggsiting either, but eh, it's firmly established as a 40k thing. May as well make 40k models with 40k designs instead of drawing on other sci-fi. Especially with how the new Squats have invited comments of being generic sci-fi.
It's something commonly seen on Imperial designs and not something that's really part of other non-Imperial armies though. They don't have to follow Imperial Aesthetics.
Squat and Imperial technology share their ancestry and it doesn't look like the new Squats are much more into innovation than the Imperium, what with that whole ancestor core worship. As much as it makes sense from an artistic point of view to give Squats a distinct faction identity, by the fluff there should be visible overlap. When it comes down to it a lot of Imperial technology is just skullified Dark Age technology. It may look different on the surface, but structure and inner workings wouldn't be different, really.
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Yeah I would prefer it took design cues from older Imperial tech (which this does) than it looking totally different. They're recreating the whole lore and feel of this faction while simultaneously bringing them back from the dead. It's important to establish that they were once human and share similar weaponry and armour whilst also looking unique.
The more I look at that power suit, the more i think: Original Terminator Models and Definite Karman Influence.
It not only has the sweeping shoulder designs of the Saturnine suit (moved over a couple of inches), but the bulky-yet-sleek retro look of the Karman speeders. Yes, liking these more and more.
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Sacredroach wrote: The more I look at that power suit, the more i think: Original Terminator Models and Definite Karman Influence.
It not only has the sweeping shoulder designs of the Saturnine suit (moved over a couple of inches), but the bulky-yet-sleek retro look of the Karman speeders. Yes, liking these more and more.
Retro-futuristic Dieselpunk-esque Dwarfs that evoke classic 80s sci-fi novel covers feels like a pretty cool direction and a nice contrast the the Mechanicus' more Pulp sci-fi / Raygun gothic style. Just a bit of a shame about the lack of much of the Dwarf side of things really.
I'm wondering if the Squats/LoV separation is a bit like comparing Craftworld Eldar to Dark Eldar. Same race, but slightly differing tech and traditions. Squats breeding in the normal fashion and simply making/improving superior versions of imperial technically as it is easier to obtain, while still having a bit of the LoV tech mixed in.
It would be like New York work crews in rural Amish Pennsylvania using both local instruments and vintage 80's power tools/ bulldozers. Less advanced than NY standards, but may as well be aliens to the locals.
Yeah.. not sure about it, not sure on the head specifically. Really hoping we see Kin exo suits soon since they've shown the new version of the trike, the exo suit is the other iconic unit that should be included in the update. Would make. nice foil to contrast this and the Votann Exos in the same week.
silverstu wrote: Yeah.. not sure about it, not sure on the head specifically. Really hoping we see Kin exo suits soon since they've shown the new version of the trike, the exo suit is the other iconic unit that should be included in the update. Would make. nice foil to contrast this and the Votann Exos in the same week.
I think we've already seen some of them in the background of the Votann art and in the Kyn head art shown last week.
silverstu wrote: Yeah.. not sure about it, not sure on the head specifically. Really hoping we see Kin exo suits soon since they've shown the new version of the trike, the exo suit is the other iconic unit that should be included in the update. Would make. nice foil to contrast this and the Votann Exos in the same week.
I'm beginning to wonder if they're peeling the old army apart and putting different aspects in different bins Votann gets trikes (antigrav because Dark Age tech), Necro Squats get Exosuits.
They mentioned during the stream that the Necromunda gang isn't part of the Votann army (which is consistent with other necromunda gangs), so... how big is this divide going to get?
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Something is off scale wise with the Dreadnought. It seems to me to look smaller than a SM dreadnought. I think that is a 50mm base. It also seems very lightly armed for a dreadnought. I'm willing to be it's only the size of a SM Centurion.
cuda1179 wrote: Something is off scale wise with the Dreadnought. It seems to me to look smaller than a SM dreadnought. I think that is a 50mm base. It also seems very lightly armed for a dreadnought. I'm willing to be it's only the size of a SM Centurion.
Well, yeah. Its should be lightly armed 'for a dreadnought' because... it isn't. It's not a dedicated warmachine, it's a refitted mining suit for a small group of miners. Different game, different expectations.
That said, it has a fist and 'seismic crusher' which presumably is the launcher on the back that fires some sort of shells, and the heavy flamer or bolter. Which probably makes it a little too good, to be honest.
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cuda1179 wrote: Something is off scale wise with the Dreadnought. It seems to me to look smaller than a SM dreadnought. I think that is a 50mm base. It also seems very lightly armed for a dreadnought. I'm willing to be it's only the size of a SM Centurion.
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