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 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
It didn't help matters that the metal Kal looks much better than the plastic version.

The new guy is ridiculously massive. And spells his and his sidekick's names wrong.

He's bulkier, but the same height as the metal.

Thanks for the comparison. Never seen 'em next to one another.

 Platuan4th wrote:
He's bulkier, but the same height as the metal.

Sorry, yes, him being mega-chonky was what I meant. All the running away he does in the stories, he should be as trim as the old model.

Sorry but like the new model more

Do you like Newcromunda?

Then you’ll love Newnewcromunda!

New Rulebook coming. And we’re promised a proper boo-boos and orchids table. Which is welcome.

Now that's handy. A combined, all in one location for everything rules based and a black market/trading post all in one + cleanup!

"This book is everything Necromunda would have been in 2017 if we had done just a few hours of playtesting before publishing it"

 zedmeister wrote:
Now that's handy. A combined, all in one location for everything rules based and a black market/trading post all in one + cleanup!

wait for all new supplements that will be needed alongside it!

though I will get this, hopefully it being newer will avoid the issues with some players insisting out of date books are not updated by newer ones

"It’s one thing to target someone with a frag grenade launcher, but a lot harder to aim at a point on the field – so that now gets a -2 penalty to hit. Likewise, charging someone you can’t see puts you at a disadvantage with -1 to hit."

That's going to be controversial in my play group!

Holy feth, how many does this do? I feel like they're releasing a new Necromunda core every six months.

I wonder which books this invalidates, or if we're about to embark on House Books 3.0 (4.0 for some of them).

Seems like its fixing some stuff that's kept me from dedicating more time to the game, so that's neet.

I dont have most of the core books but started playing, so this is a nice one for me.

All I see in the article is "stuff that should already have been in the older book(s)". Doesn't really endear me to buy yet another one.

Downside.

It’s…….another sodding Necromunda Rulebook.. I’ve had a copy of every one so far, and this getting silly.

Upside.

At least this will be a Single Voice. An authoritative time if you will. I think I’m less bothered this book is a thing, and more bothered some of the others (oh hai Ash Wastes) weren’t this thing.

Will this also include the gang rules from the various "House of" books?

 warboss wrote:
Will this also include the gang rules from the various "House of" books?

Seemingly not. Perhaps concerningly they said “ This is just a snapshot of the many small but important quality of life changes made in this rulebook. In short, this is the essential tome for any player – and you’ll now really only need to bring this book and your chosen gang’s special rules to any dust-up within the underhive or without. It’ll be up for pre-order shortly, and there’s much more to come from Necromunda, but Lady Haera is breathing down our neck and we just can’t say any more yet…”

Loose wording re “your chosen gang’s special rules” is my cause for concern. But, keep in mind not every gang as a House Of book.

Taking bets on how many sections they will copy paste from early books forgetting to account for already published changes and errata to those sections. Again.

Also remember that two core gangs haven't yet been brought up to speed on the Ash Wastes setting that came out in April of last year but here we are again paying 50€ for someone spending half an afternoon copy pasting old stuff around and doing a few lines of rules corrections. Easy money.

Some nice changes there.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Taking bets on how many sections they will copy paste from early books forgetting to account for already published changes and errata to those sections. Again.

Also remember that two core gangs haven't yet been brought up to speed on the Ash Wastes setting that came out in April of last year but here we are again paying 50€ for someone spending half an afternoon copy pasting old stuff around and doing a few lines of rules corrections. Easy money.

Genuinely without sarcasm of any kind?

This is why we have a Baxx.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Will this also include the gang rules from the various "House of" books?

Seemingly not. Perhaps concerningly they said “ This is just a snapshot of the many small but important quality of life changes made in this rulebook. In short, this is the essential tome for any player – and you’ll now really only need to bring this book and your chosen gang’s special rules to any dust-up within the underhive or without. It’ll be up for pre-order shortly, and there’s much more to come from Necromunda, but Lady Haera is breathing down our neck and we just can’t say any more yet…”

Loose wording re “your chosen gang’s special rules” is my cause for concern. But, keep in mind not every gang as a House Of book.

Thanks. I didn't catch that part. Shame though. I've had a recent interest in Necromunda and would have bought it if it was the only book I'd need to bring.

I love necromunda, but I just can't deal with this edition and will stick to N95.

The book spam is just ridiculous. This should be the 2nd version of the game at most.

I do find it funny that this is announced just after someone finished running the kickstarter to make a bunch of book tabs for the existing rule books!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Genuinely without sarcasm of any kind?

This is why we have a Baxx.

100%

Glory unto him.

Just, like... at the prices we're paying, we shouldn't need to have a Baxx.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Genuinely without sarcasm of any kind?

This is why we have a Baxx.

100%

Glory unto him.

Just, like... at the prices we're paying, we shouldn't need to have a Baxx.

Indeed. But whilst his analyses sometimes make my eyes cross, I’m sure Dakka would rather have him and not need him

The man is a genuine saint.

 Albertorius wrote:
Holy feth, how many does this do? I feel like they're releasing a new Necromunda core every six months.

I just got the Ash Wastes rulebook which I foolishly thought was the newest one. They change Necromunda rulebooks like I change my underwear.

Yeah, I don't need another Necromunda rulebook. The ash wastes one was kind of fair as it added the vehicle rules and stuff, this sounds like a copy+paste job.

Toofast wrote:

They change Necromunda rulebooks like I change my underwear.

I'm the exact same, except with ones from 1995.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Genuinely without sarcasm of any kind?

This is why we have a Baxx.

100%

Glory unto him.

Just, like... at the prices we're paying, we shouldn't need to have a Baxx.

What's a Baxx?

 warboss wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Genuinely without sarcasm of any kind?

This is why we have a Baxx.

100%

Glory unto him.

Just, like... at the prices we're paying, we shouldn't need to have a Baxx.

What's a Baxx?

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/user/profile/5209.page

They compile and track Necromunda rules, including discrepancies and errors between publications and broken or poorly-functional rules.

And to the degree where whilst you may not agree with his conclusions, his arguments are pretty airtight.

He’s a genuine MVP of Dakka.