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**Undead_Love-Machine**

Does anybody know if the scenarios in the book are new, or is everything in the book just compiled from previous books?

I'm trying to justify buying it, not sure if I can to be honest.

**Baxx**

It is often not as easy as things being new or old. Most likely we are looking at mutated old content. Scenario names are old. You can see all existing scenarios here:

https://necrodamus.org/docs/scenarios/scenario-list/

As mentioned, Rescue Mission exists in 4 different unique versions. If this book has a 5th, isn't it strictly speaking new?

**Undead_Love-Machine**

Thanks for the link Baxx, very helpful

**H.B.M.C.**

Baxx wrote:
It might be identical (at least judging by the preview card in the video). One could hope they correct the deployment zones to not be next to each other though

See my post above yours.

**Altruizine**

Baxx being informed that *all* previous FAQs and errata are included in the new rulebook:

Spoiler:

**Breotan**

According to the youtube video, the reprinted cards contain updated text.

**beast_gts**

Rulebook is £42.50 & Core Tactics £12.50. Looks like Open Hive War & Sleeves are direct only.

**H.B.M.C.**

beast_gts wrote:
Looks like Open Hive War & Sleeves are direct only.

That tracks. Looking at my order history I got the Open War deck from GW, and I never order from GW unless I have no choice.

**Baxx**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Baxx wrote:
It might be identical (at least judging by the preview card in the video). One could hope they correct the deployment zones to not be next to each other though
See my post above yours.

Yeye but asking GW isn't worth much! Remember asking them about whether House of Blades had been released in 2nd version and which version they had for sale. The answer was no, it only had a single version, so when I offered them photographic evidence that it had been published in an updated version the conversation quickly ended...

**Shakalooloo**

beast_gts wrote:
Rulebook is £42.50 & Core Tactics £12.50. Looks like Open Hive War & Sleeves are direct only.

Considering the size of the book, that's a pretty decent price by GW standards. It's what, three times the length of a Codex, and not even twice the price.

**lord_blackfang**

Shakalooloo wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
Rulebook is £42.50 & Core Tactics £12.50. Looks like Open Hive War & Sleeves are direct only.

Considering the size of the book, that's a pretty decent price by GW standards. It's what, three times the length of a Codex, and not even twice the price.

They pass the saving of doing zero development work right on to us!

**Baxx**

Some of us already paid for these pages many times over.

**MajorWesJanson**

Baxx wrote:
Some of us already paid for these pages many times over.

And some of us haven't, and appreciate not having to buy and carry multiple books.

**Skinnereal**

Baxx wrote:
Some of us already paid for these pages many times over.

If you treat it the same way as 40k rulebooks and codexes, it makes more sense (from a GW perspective).

We're on Necromunda 5th edition (or whatever), and the House Of books are still valid as 4th ed codexes. It's been 2017 and 2020

, so time for a new edition

It's really not good that GW is re-releasing the rules, but it's good that newer changes and updated rules are being released.

**Baxx**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Baxx wrote:
Some of us already paid for these pages many times over.

And some of us haven't, and appreciate not having to buy and carry multiple books.

The best time to start playing Necromunda has always been tomorrow

**El Torro**

Preorders are now up in the UK. I was going to buy various packs of the Card Sleeves, but it's limited to 1 pack of 50 per customer. I won't bother in that case. If I get some in future I'll just get some third party sleeves.

**Gimgamgoo**

El Torro wrote:
Preorders are now up in the UK. I was going to buy various packs of the Card Sleeves, but it's limited to 1 pack of 50 per customer. I won't bother in that case. If I get some in future I'll just get some third party sleeves.

And the book is unavailable within 4 minutes.
Meh.

**lord_blackfang**

I hope you weren't afraid of missing out!

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Will be visiting my FLGS next Saturday then.

**Kinetochore**

Yup, book and cards now unavailable. Piss poor service.

I would have thought there were far fewer players playing Necromunda than 40k or killteam.

Either I'm wrong about its popularity or GW really screwed the production numbers for this one.....

**H.B.M.C.**

Pretty typical for GW at this stage.

Anyway, Goonhammer has their review out. Sure would be nice if we knew this stuff before releases went up for their 8 and a half nano-second pre-order window, but whatever.

Highlights include:

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:This tome largely replaces the venerable 2018 Rulebook, the leftover bits of Gangs of the Underhive, and most of the goodies for sale in Book of Judgement and Book of Peril. After going through all the new rules we will highlight where – vexingly – certain elements of those books have been left out.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:All Serious Injury rolls after the first count as Flesh Wounds. Example, a 1 Wound Fighter fails a save against a Damage 2 weapon, and rolls 2 Injury Dice. If they roll 2 Serious Injuries, previously that would be the only result. Now, they are Seriously Injured by the first dice, and suffer a Flesh Wound from the second. This is a very serious boost to multiple Damage shooting weapons, which are much more likely to take targets out of the game, especially in conjunction with the Recovery changes below.
When rolling for Recovery in the End Phase, rolling a Serious Injury inflicts a further Flesh Wound. This means that Seriously Injured Fighters will definitely not hang around bleeding on the floor. Unless assisted by an ally (see below) they will get worse, and approach that 1T benchmark where even rolling a Flesh Wound will put them Out of Action.

The former makes sense to me. I'm sceptical about the latter.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:The rules for Vehicle states and actions have been folded into the main body of the rules, and how your resolve damage against them, Loss of Control, Restarting in the End Phase etc are likewise covered alongside the other aspects of core gameplay.

Although all of the rules necessary to play with vehicles in a scenario are faithfully transcribed here, the Core Rulebook does not contain profiles or loadouts for any of them, nor are any items from the Vehicle Wargear table included. If you’re looking to ride out with any of those, you’ll still need to invest in Book of the Outlands (or your relevant Aranthian book, for Goliath/Escher/Cawdor).

I think avoiding doubling up on profiles is for the best. Less chance of them getting it wrong.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:(Brawn) Hurl: Hurl receives a buff that will quite possibly enable more narrative moments than any of the other skill changes listed here, in that you are now able to use this action on the charge instead of only in later rounds of combat. Barrel in and chuck an enemy off of a catwalk, or onto a clump of their friends? Hurl’s got the momentum now.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:There’s a significantly revamped D66 table of Lasting Injuries...

Certainly bringing back some classics here. Webbers also really help with capturing people.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:The cost for visiting the doc remains the same, 2d6x10 credits. The outcome is less risky though. It remains a D6 roll, die on a 1, Recovery but no permanent ill effects on a 6. 2-5 is now, instead of a random stat decreasing permanent injury, another roll on Lasting Injury, but excluding another Critical Injury, Captured or Death. So overall a much lower chance to have your Fighter permanently adversely affected – you might even get some cool scars! Your Fighter will always go into Recovery though.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:It’s all in here. Everything from the original Rulebook and the Trading Post PDF, the full Black Market from Book of Judgement, even the weird stuff from Book of Peril like fake Mung Vases and Giant Rats.

The main change mechanically is a simplification of how Outlaw and Law-Abiding gangs trade, with the separate Black Market eliminated, and all equipment in the Trading Post classified as Rare or Illegal with a given number value. Law-Abiding and Outlaw gangs both roll the Availability level of equipment in exactly the same way, but a Law-Abiding gang takes -4 to the Availability level when buying Illegal gear.

Goons. Hired Goons wrote:The Concussion trait has had a typo fixed that previously caused it to accidentally improve the victim’s Initiative score by 2.

This is where the real meat is. Is there really just plain ol’ Dominion in this book? Sure, but this time they’ve heavily expanded all of the tweaks you can make to the basic framework to make it feel like something new and different. While we doubt anybody’s going to be salivating at Old Kingdoms, there’s some stuff here that could have easily been worked into a fully distinct system dropped in some future book instead.

**Kinetochore**

seems like some nice rules changes.

Might pick it up if/when its available.

For now I'll just use the flesh wound serious injury rules and add to current, saving £43

**Jadenim**

Nice summary, but you missed the most important point: “ It also has an index – praise the God Emperor!”

Huzzah!

**No_Marines_Here**

Jadenim wrote:
Nice summary, but you missed the most important point: “ It also has an index – praise the God Emperor!”

Huzzah!

Now you're playing my tune!

**Altruizine**

Lots of great changes listed in that review. It sounds like they addressed nearly every rule I had a major problem with (and some I didn't realize I did). Whether the changes go far enough (eg. the state of Pitch Black is unclear) is tbd but it still looks like a strong effort.

Some of the campaign variants sound really great.

**manic _miner**

Any info on the next miniatures releases?

**El Torro**

manic _miner wrote:
Any info on the next miniatures releases?

I could be (probably am) wrong but I don't think there's any models that have been previewed that haven't been released yet.

Would be nice to see the Delaque and Van Saar Ash Waste vehicles finally make an appearance.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I’m mostly stoked for a proper injury table. There was nothing quite like losing a game, but everyone walking away with mild bruising whilst your opponent’s gang got horrifically mangled.

**Baxx**

Altruizine wrote:
Baxx being informed that *all* previous FAQs and errata are included in the new rulebook:

Spoiler:

**schoon**

Well, that was disappointing.

I was actually hoping to buy a copy of that one...