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The Hunchback will have something to say about this!

Especially weird as we know the LI Mechanicum tanks are going to be coming (in the book and hiding in plain sight in a couple of articles) and they haven't been officially previewed yet, which surely would have been low hanging fruit. Ah well.

SamusDrake wrote:
The Hunchback will have something to say about this!

The hunchback says many things…

LOL, he's definitely a Heresy fan!

Well, it's still better than the 3 Thursdays they spent un-releasing resin Contemptor legs and arms?

...it's bad enough we have to share Heresy Thursdays with LI, but now this? A no-call no-show this early in to the restarting?!?

Just a stab in the dark but I think they're holding back for an imminent announcement for a new Adeptus Titanicus boxed game( probably just a new starter set ). There's a lot of variables to consider, but the delay of the Dark Mechanicum kits is interesting as they have AT terminals included. I've been holding back on purchases just incase...

I'm also wondering if the slow-up in releases for The Horus Heresy might be due to the possibility of a new edition in the summer. The current boxed set is looking very stale and expensive with only Marines, when we now have plastic ranges for Solar and Mechanicum as well. Also, with the introduction of Legions Imperialis, it would make sense for HH to include it's own "combat patrol" style system for smaller games. While I don't like it's implementation(static lists), its still a good idea worth exploring.

I just want my melee weapons put up for preorder already....

Its ridiculous that its taking this long to put out a single kit of upgrades, yet they've released a load of unnecessary large tank kits. I remember the wait being frustrating for just the rocket pods for the AT Questoris, but this has taken not just the biscuit but the whole pack of chocolate Hobknobs.

I mean it was the same with the assault marines. It's really impressive at this point that they are this oblivious for what most players actually need and instead are still going for "Opps... All Tanks!".

 Shadox wrote:
I mean it was the same with the assault marines. It's really impressive at this point that they are this oblivious for what most players actually need and instead are still going for "Opps... All Tanks!".

I doubt they are just oblivious to it, at least not completely.
There is likely just some reason we don't know that made it way easier for them to make all those tank kits first instead of infantry (And I mean in addition to just being easier to sculpt or being able to release multiple tanks on nearly the same base sprues) and they just didn't think it was worth it/ didn't care enough to do it the other way around.
Also its not like there wouldn't have been any outcry no matter how they did it. Of course the best way would have been to get a balanced release schedule of both tanks and infantry but it might just not have been enough of an improvement in sales and customer satisfaction for the accounting people to outweigh whatever downside that option had

Hasnt it been speculated that HH plastics tackle tanks first most of the time, because they want to reduce the amount of resin kit production ASAP? And getting rid of the large resin models first makes the most sense for this

Tanks are also larger and more expensive, so probably higher margin of return, especially when multiple kits share 75-80% of sprues.

There's probably some efficiency benefit for the wire spark erosion process too.
I dunno, maybe the pre-machining can get closer to the limits or something.

Sunday Preview – The new edition of Warhammer Underworlds is nearly here

Melee Weapons! (and templates!)

And I’ll be needing both.

Spesh the templates. Kinda bonkers such an essential play tool hasn’t be available for a while.

sighs in Australia

Hopefully only delayed by 1-2 weeks here...

It only feels right after such a long, long wait...as Heresy players be like...

Splendid. One Assault weapons kit please!

Wow I didn't think we'd see Apoc templates again

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Wow I didn't think we'd see Apoc templates again

interestingly they have re-released the Apocalypse 1st edition templates, not the 2nd edition one with the movable barrage templates. I do prefer how the older barrage looks though.

 Haighus wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Wow I didn't think we'd see Apoc templates again

interestingly they have re-released the Apocalypse 1st edition templates, not the 2nd edition one with the movable barrage templates. I do prefer how the older barrage looks though.

The 2nd edition ones had movable barrage, but also hellstorm was 2 pieces and had to be clipped together, and thelarge blast was 15/10/5" made of 4 corners that need assembled. Having both, I like the first set better

Honestly it probably just took them this long to find the mould in the back of the warehouse, behind the wall of doomsday clocks, under the pile of plastic thunderhawks.

They found them while looking for their escaped website dev team.

 tauist wrote:
Hasnt it been speculated that HH plastics tackle tanks first most of the time, because they want to reduce the amount of resin kit production ASAP? And getting rid of the large resin models first makes the most sense for this

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Tanks are also larger and more expensive, so probably higher margin of return, especially when multiple kits share 75-80% of sprues.

See this logic always struck me as odd, because seeing treadhead armies is quite rare in my experience and most people seem to buy a couple of tanks, and often as their "final" purchases for a planned army. I dunno maybe mech-heavy event/tournament lists are skewing GW's perception, but if I wanted to clear resin stock and make money I'd be rushing to plastic-ify the stuff that most people are buying 10+ boxes of as soon as they start, and that's infantry.

I don't think releasing a slew of tanks during the initial stages of the 2nd edition of the game was a bad idea at all. For many people, the Heresy-era vehicles are big part of the attraction of WH30k, but the fact that they were only available in resin was a major turn-off. I agree that infantry units tend to dominate most lists, but remember that the people who actually play are only part of the customer base, and there are plenty of customers buying the models just to build and paint them. GW probably wanted to tap into that demand - and start to reduce FW's resin vehicle output. The issue was that there was a need for models for other basic units that was not being met; in fact, for a while the only thing they seemed to be releasing was minor variations on existing vehicles (usually only involving a replacement sprue). I would question whether there is actually more money for them in tank kits; I would have thought that a sprue of infantry with 5 poses is unlikely to be any more expensive to get into production than a tank, but infantry kits probably sell in exponentially greater numbers.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Spesh the templates. Kinda bonkers such an essential play tool hasn’t be available for a while.

I prefer the original orange version. I still have some, new and attached to the sprue.

 Snord wrote:


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Spesh the templates. Kinda bonkers such an essential play tool hasn’t be available for a while.

I prefer the original orange version. I still have some, new and attached to the sprue.

Orange? Are you thinking the normal set of templates? These are the Apoc templates- the 5" clover, Hellstorm and 10" Blast ones.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Snord wrote:


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Spesh the templates. Kinda bonkers such an essential play tool hasn’t be available for a while.

I prefer the original orange version. I still have some, new and attached to the sprue.

Orange? Are you thinking the normal set of templates? These are the Apoc templates- the 5" clover, Hellstorm and 10" Blast ones.

Which, from what I recall, were originally released in a nice lime green (similar to the old Necron gauss rods). They released a version of the standard templates in the same gree around the same time, which were my first set of templates.

All the swords are right handed, all the pistols left handed.

In the Grim Darkness of the Far Future, no one dual wields.

(I know, it's not an impossible conversion, but still, guys, come on!)

Yes the original was definitely neon green. I still use the Hellstrom template as a rule for long cuts in plasticard.