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One of them definitely has a sword in the same style as Angron’s. Smaller of course. But same style.

Red Butchers with hodgepodge equipment as a kit? They were in 8th edition as an upgrade to standard terminators, didn’t have any new artwork though. Cataphractii armor has to be rare as can be these days, so they scrounge whatever they can to replace armor parts?

Added the photo to the first post!

 zend wrote:
Red Butchers with hodgepodge equipment as a kit? They were in 8th edition as an upgrade to standard terminators, didn’t have any new artwork though. Cataphractii armor has to be rare as can be these days, so they scrounge whatever they can to replace armor parts?

I assume that some form of Terminator will be a kit. Like, Thousand Sons got one, Death Guard got two, so World Eaters getting Red Butchers or some kind of unique Terminator seems very likely.

My assumption is that the WE will get a lot more of a full range that Thousand Sons did - comparable to the DG. So we can assume (alongside what we already know),

>Termiators
>Support character (3 to 4)
>Chaos Lord of Khorne
>Vehicles?
>More unique infantry

I'm betting one or two (at best) Daemon engines instead of vehicles

I also assume WE will still have access to all the standard CSM vehicles and Daemon Engines which both TS and DG have.

 zend wrote:
Red Butchers with hodgepodge equipment as a kit? They were in 8th edition as an upgrade to standard terminators, didn’t have any new artwork though. Cataphractii armor has to be rare as can be these days, so they scrounge whatever they can to replace armor parts?

They're not nearly hunched over enough to be Terminators

Possibly Blood Slaughterers in plastic?

Garrac wrote:
Added the photo to the first post!

Thanks! (no sarcasm there) Always good to see the first post updated with the pertinent stuff when a few pages are added overnight.

As for the picture itself, I'm glad someone totally not employed by gw and under their manager's explicit orders was able to sneak out this picture and dial up to the internet with their secret AOL account to upload this "leak" to IRC.

 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?

I think that they're Khorngors as well. Something about their legs and bodies look bestial. Angron mostly looks great, but something about his face just looks a little goofy, not the semi-cadaverous face we see in art. The Berzerkers are interesting, as from what I am seeing, they simply look like upscaled versions of the old models, and I was hoping for something more detailed and arcane like the Blades of Khorne minis. That being said, given how blurry this photo is, I could be wrong about everything.

The ones up top definitely look like Khornegors, while the ones on the ground look like Guardsmen.

OK_E has been commenting on this pretty actively this morning!

Look in the far background

Imagine cramming 8 bloodletters into a marine

The 8 dudesmen

The others are mortals with good boy faces

 ArcaneHorror wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:
I mean yeah but GW are now very particular about matching up art and mins. I don't think it should surprise anyone the Angron min and the Heresy pics are very, very close.

ALSO - some people on reddit are suggesting the models in the background are not cultists, but Khorngors?

I think that they're Khorngors as well. Something about their legs and bodies look bestial. Angron mostly looks great, but something about his face just looks a little goofy, not the semi-cadaverous face we see in art. The Berzerkers are interesting, as from what I am seeing, they simply look like upscaled versions of the old models, and I was hoping for something more detailed and arcane like the Blades of Khorne minis. That being said, given how blurry this photo is, I could be wrong about everything.

I would love it if they were. I really want the Khorngors and the Pestigors to be rolled out so they are all available for Beastmen.

My reasoning for them potentially being Khorngors is also the following,

>We already have melee cultists
>DG and TS don't have specialised cultists, but another chaff infantry option

Grotsnik's little freakout aside, it's pretty clear that they could've shown us heaps when they teased WE to us, but chose not to, likely just because it wasn't within the X window they have for previews but the new Chaos Codex was, and they had to address the fact that WE weren't in that. Hardly a conspiracy.

I hope the things in the background are Khorngors. It'd be way more fun than Cultists: Again, and pay off the Beastmen we got in Blackstone Fortress.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Grotsnik's little freakout aside, it's pretty clear that they could've shown us heaps when they teased WE to us, but chose not to, likely just because it wasn't within the X window they have for previews but the new Chaos Codex was, and they had to address the fact that WE weren't in that. Hardly a conspiracy.

I hope the things in the background are Khorngors. It'd be way more fun than Cultists: Again, and pay off the Beastmen we got in Blackstone Fortress.

Yeah it’s pretty obvious WE have been ready, just the release schedule is all jacked up, and since their exclusion from the codex made it obvious they’re ready to release separately they had to say “Stay tuned!”.

I really like the BSF beast men and the dual kit Tzaangors, so I’m all in for Khorngors. Wouldn’t mind a Blood Pact upgrade kit on top of it either.

 blood reaper wrote:
My reasoning for them potentially being Khorngors is also the following,

>We already have melee cultists
>DG and TS don't have specialised cultists, but another chaff infantry option

Will WE have access to those melee cultist in their own book? Plus melee cultists have guns and these may just be melee only

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Profit?

I know right? Some people in the Warhammer community have gone well beyond what might be considered reasonable and act like GW personally slapped their mother. Obsessive levels of hatred over plastic toy soldiers.

I'm in a lot of fan communities and the Warhammer community is by far the worst for it's levels of unwarranted vitriolic hostility.

But it does seem that this loud part of the community has gone too far and I am seeing some justified backlash from the quiet part of the community.


Anyway, I wouldnt blame you for having second thoughts about sharing your leaks here next time considering the response...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Grotsnik's little freakout aside, it's pretty clear that they could've shown us heaps when they teased WE to us, but chose not to, likely just because it wasn't within the X window they have for previews but the new Chaos Codex was, and they had to address the fact that WE weren't in that. Hardly a conspiracy.

I hope the things in the background are Khorngors. It'd be way more fun than Cultists: Again, and pay off the Beastmen we got in Blackstone Fortress.

I personally would love to see Khorngors (and more beastmen in general, but.. well, what's one more missed opportunity for chaos at this point?)

But... lore-wise its trickier than it looks with the broken war bands angle of the WE. For Tzaangors its easy, the TS are on the planet of the sorcerers, in the Eye, and the non-marine population has degenerated into a stable population of beastmen. We know where they come from. Khorngors would come from...? And are picked up and accompany the mad hatter WE war bands because...?
I'd love a more complex take on Khorne and World Eaters that would allow for this, but I don't see GW doing it.

Well now we know: The World Eaters are so fractured as a Legion - as everyone has been telling us Chaos players for years - that they only went and got a whole book dedicated to just them.

derpherp wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Profit?

I know right? Some people in the Warhammer community have gone well beyond what might be considered reasonable and act like GW personally slapped their mother. Obsessive levels of hatred over plastic toy soldiers.

I'm in a lot of fan communities and the Warhammer community is by far the worst for it's levels of unwarranted vitriolic hostility.

But it does seem that this loud part of the community has gone too far and I am seeing some justified backlash from the quiet part of the community.


Anyway, I wouldnt blame you for having second thoughts about sharing your leaks here next time considering the response...

Yeah the leagues of votann thread is pretty nuts, but we're not alone. The Halo community is genuinely awful a lot of the time and God of War fans sent death threats because the Devs didn't announce the release date when a leaker said they would.

It really is amazing how much energy people put into hating things.

I’m looking forward to seeing how the new Beserkers will look in white and blue/red as late heresy World Eaters.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Grotsnik's little freakout aside

Calling out people for attributing statements to GW that they never made as a reason to complain about them, and providing them to the actual quotes that disprove their assertions is now a freakout?

I think we've reached peak gaslighting from the "must bash GW at all costs" crew.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I’m looking forward to seeing how the new Beserkers will look in white and blue/red as late heresy World Eaters.

Same here. I really liked the WE colors when I first saw them in the Visions of the HH art book.

 warboss wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
I’m looking forward to seeing how the new Beserkers will look in white and blue/red as late heresy World Eaters.

Same here. I really liked the WE colors when I first saw them in the Visions of the HH art book.

I am with you guys. White and blue WE look so cool.

Chikout wrote:
Yeah the leagues of votann thread is pretty nuts, but we're not alone. The Halo community is genuinely awful a lot of the time and God of earsfans sent death threats because the Devs didn't announce the release date when a leaker said they would.

God of Ears is definitely a franchise worth... listening to...

That was quick:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/07/08/tremble-before-the-rage-of-angron-daemon-primarch-of-khorne/

 Dysartes wrote:

Chikout wrote:
Yeah the leagues of votann thread is pretty nuts, but we're not alone. The Halo community is genuinely awful a lot of the time and God of earsfans sent death threats because the Devs didn't announce the release date when a leaker said they would.

God of Ears is definitely a franchise worth... listening to...

It's extremely annoying that you can't edit a quote.

BLARGH!

So much hand wringing about people on the internet saying mean things.

Stop apologizing for GW’s truly astonishing level of controlling behavior re schedules and new stuff, which leads to people harboring grudges. GW isn’t your friend, makes bad decisions all on its own, and most importantly doesn’t care about your help.

I can't stop looking at his bicep wing arm....

Overall, I think it looks pretty good, but that bicep wing arm....

Can't. Stop. Looking.