Switch Theme:

What is better protection  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Hellacious Havoc




Bay Area

If I use illusory supplication can’t be hit on 1-3 unmodified roles. Would benediction of darkness +1 to armor saves or Feculent +1 toughness is better with Illusory?
   
Made in us
Confessor Of Sins





Tacoma, WA, USA

This is a depends on who is targeting you with what question.
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

Sounds like a tactics not a rules question

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in us
Hellacious Havoc




Bay Area

It’s not depends on who is targeting you. You have one of two choices pre game when making your army. So it’s one or the other.
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Cardiff

“Which is better” is not a rules question, if you understand how both rules work. Thus it’s a tactics question.

 Stormonu wrote:
For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
 
   
Made in us
Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle





In My Lab

 IwinUlose wrote:
It’s not depends on who is targeting you. You have one of two choices pre game when making your army. So it’s one or the other.
S3 AP0 against a T4 3+ model doubles durability with +1 save, while +1 Toughness does nothing.
The same weapon against a T5 5+ model has 33% more durability with +1 save, while +1 Toughness doubles it.

It. Depends.

Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




 IwinUlose wrote:
It’s not depends on who is targeting you. You have one of two choices pre game when making your army. So it’s one or the other.

It absolutely depends. For a start, you haven't even given us all the information we need. Who are you planning to cast Illusory Supplication on? There's a big difference depending on whether you buff Possessed, Terminators, Chosen or regular Legionnaires. Possessed and Terminators are the usual targets and that highlights just how much it depends. Possessed are T5 3+ save and Terminators are T4 2+ save so buffing armour benefits Possessed a lot while buffing Toughness likely helps Terminators more, because of how the breakpoints in 40k stats work and AoC being a thing.

If you're facing a lot of S3 or a lot of S7+ attacks, the Toughness buff is irrelevant. If you face lots of high-AP weapons, the armour buff won't help much. Notably, Tau have a lot of S6/7+ shots available to them so armour might be better to buff there. Other armies put out a lot of S3 or S4 shooting with little AP, so Toughness might be a better bet. Ultimately, it's a personal preference and local meta call.

Also, if you're asking for advice it's probably a good idea not to dismiss that advice out of hand.
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka




NE Ohio, USA

Lacking any more info?
Probably the +1 to save.
Because at worst s 5+ is generally all that's needed to wound. But it's still got to get though the Armor Save.

Like I said though, lack of info.
   
Made in fi
Locked in the Tower of Amareo





 IwinUlose wrote:
It’s not depends on who is targeting you. You have one of two choices pre game when making your army. So it’s one or the other.


So. How much benefit +1t is for t3 guy if you get hit by s8?

How useful +1 save is to 3+ guy when hit by -5?


If you think it doesn"t matter who targets back to study basics as this isn't question to worry complete beginners. Focus on core rules first

2024 painted/bought: 109/109 
   
Made in de
Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

tneva82 wrote:
 IwinUlose wrote:
It’s not depends on who is targeting you. You have one of two choices pre game when making your army. So it’s one or the other.


So. How much benefit +1t is for t3 guy if you get hit by s8?

How useful +1 save is to 3+ guy when hit by -5?


Of course, always shoot anti armour weapons at T3 infantry
   
 
Forum Index » 40K General Discussion
Go to: