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Also helps keep the dust off them. And will encourage me to paint them.

i got now two. it will only feed your plastic addiction and possibly infect friends.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also helps keep the dust off them. And will encourage me to paint them.

Agreed that having models on display enourages painting them, but keeping dust off, is a cabinet really enough?

advantage here, don't have to worry about the dust

with all the cat hair I can't see the dust under it

 tauist wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Also helps keep the dust off them. And will encourage me to paint them.

Agreed that having models on display enourages painting them, but keeping dust off, is a cabinet really enough?

Still better than leaving them on an open shelf.

Seems the IKEA Detolf remains the best option. Affordable, well regarded. And pretty much the right size.

Had my Christmas Dinner, and the resulting Christmas Food Coma Nap.

Treated myself to two collections of The Real Ghostbusters, and I think it’s time for building some Heresy.

Should do infantry. But I’m gonna do another Contemptor instead.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Should do infantry. But I’m gonna do another Contemptor instead.

Oh man, i feel you on that one.

Planned on entering the dakka painting challenge with two custom stormtrooper bannerbearers this month but just haven't had the drive to start them.

It's not like they are particularly complicated colour-wise, you know?

Disappointed in myself frankly.

Cracked open my Land Raider Proteus kit, building an explorator. Man, the sprue gates on this kit are annoying af, can't even fit my JLC blade to all of them even after having cut the pieces loosely off the frame. I wish JLC also made those thin, tiny versions of their saw like the chinese cheapo razor saws, their form factor is perfect, but the teeths on their blades are rubbish, nowhere near JLC tier

Just finished ten White Scars Tactical marines. Working on a character next. It’s the Cataphractii guy with the cyber hawk but since I have a praetor, I’m thinking of making him a librarian.

http://xhorikwar.blogspot.com/2022/12/white-scars-mkvi-tactical-squad-finished.html

Looks great!

As someone who will eventually be painting up a HH White Scars force, can you share your technique for getting that fantastic looking white?

Some anti infantry predators. Eight lascannons. 😊

 Alpharius wrote:
Looks great!

As someone who will eventually be painting up a HH White Scars force, can you share your technique for getting that fantastic looking white?

Thanks. I’ve been looking for ways to speed up painting white without an airbrush and this is the best I’ve come up with so far. I want pure white and not off white or grey because my brother plays World Eaters and Death Guard and so I want my Scars to stand out as whiter than those Legions, where he can use a dirtier white technique.

Spray with Grey Seer primer in rattle can (I find the contrast primers have the smoothest finish and not gritty)
Spray Tamiya white paint (not primer) in rattle can, sprayed from above and all around except not from directly below. This leaves the underside a slight grey and gives some slight shadowing.
Black line all recesses using oil based black paint
Done!
Weathering is just sponged on dark grey (Eshin) and then some weathering powder for dust on the feet
That’s it.

The Tamiya white spray has a very slightly semi-gloss or more eggshell type finish that helps the black oil paint very easily flow into the recesses naturally so you don’t need to spend ages trying to paint thin black lines. Just touch the black to a crevice and it runs along. It sometimes gets messy but much easier than using thinned black acrylic like I did for years. The black lining makes the white pop without any highlights.

I’ll post some closer photos so you can see if you like the look. Good luck with the Sons of the Great Khan.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DhxUrJEGAfSN26yp7

Basically use anything grey that isn't white to paint white as the main undercoat

 The Riddle of Steel wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Looks great!

As someone who will eventually be painting up a HH White Scars force, can you share your technique for getting that fantastic looking white?

Thanks. I’ve been looking for ways to speed up painting white without an airbrush and this is the best I’ve come up with so far. I want pure white and not off white or grey because my brother plays World Eaters and Death Guard and so I want my Scars to stand out as whiter than those Legions, where he can use a dirtier white technique.

Spray with Grey Seer primer in rattle can (I find the contrast primers have the smoothest finish and not gritty)
Spray Tamiya white paint (not primer) in rattle can, sprayed from above and all around except not from directly below. This leaves the underside a slight grey and gives some slight shadowing.
Black line all recesses using oil based black paint
Done!
Weathering is just sponged on dark grey (Eshin) and then some weathering powder for dust on the feet
That’s it.

The Tamiya white spray has a very slightly semi-gloss or more eggshell type finish that helps the black oil paint very easily flow into the recesses naturally so you don’t need to spend ages trying to paint thin black lines. Just touch the black to a crevice and it runs along. It sometimes gets messy but much easier than using thinned black acrylic like I did for years. The black lining makes the white pop without any highlights.

I’ll post some closer photos so you can see if you like the look. Good luck with the Sons of the Great Khan.

Just checked out your Scars and have to say they look great! Just one question if I may - What made you settle on a black oil wash? I'd think grey or dark grey would have given a less contrasty a shade.. unless of course, you wanted as much contrast as possible?

I like how you mixed things up with the shoulderpads a little, keeps the models looking more like individuals

For my now into SA reworked project a legate Marshall with penal cohort doctrine and a command tercio lad with volite rifle,

 The Riddle of Steel wrote:

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 Alpharius wrote:
Looks great!

As someone who will eventually be painting up a HH White Scars force, can you share your technique for getting that fantastic looking white?

Thanks. I’ve been looking for ways to speed up painting white without an airbrush and this is the best I’ve come up with so far. I want pure white and not off white or grey because my brother plays World Eaters and Death Guard and so I want my Scars to stand out as whiter than those Legions, where he can use a dirtier white technique.

Spray with Grey Seer primer in rattle can (I find the contrast primers have the smoothest finish and not gritty)
Spray Tamiya white paint (not primer) in rattle can, sprayed from above and all around except not from directly below. This leaves the underside a slight grey and gives some slight shadowing.
Black line all recesses using oil based black paint
Done!
Weathering is just sponged on dark grey (Eshin) and then some weathering powder for dust on the feet
That’s it.

The Tamiya white spray has a very slightly semi-gloss or more eggshell type finish that helps the black oil paint very easily flow into the recesses naturally so you don’t need to spend ages trying to paint thin black lines. Just touch the black to a crevice and it runs along. It sometimes gets messy but much easier than using thinned black acrylic like I did for years. The black lining makes the white pop without any highlights.

I’ll post some closer photos so you can see if you like the look. Good luck with the Sons of the Great Khan.

Thank you for posting your recipe - I'm definitely going to give your method a shot!

And yes, more pics if you've got them please!

Just washed off a bunch of resin Marines and a Necroumda character, the latter to use as a Legate Marshall for my Solar Auxilia list.

Looks like I can get quite a bit done over the Christmas break - kicked off with some Prosperine Spireguard:



And managed to get an officer done too:

loving those Spireguard.. what models are they?

had a go using some French Napoleonic Old Guard (had to leave the muskets on them as the las guns looked utterly ridiculous, even more so than Old Guard painted red & white, which itself took some doing)

today I haz been mostly working on some Mk VI, and fighting with some decals on some Mk III for my new Death Guard.

experimenting with painting, the base colours at least, on the frames prior to assembly to make getting at some of the more fiddly bits a bit easier.. will see if the pain is worth it when the first five are done

there is a logic there, to get at all the irritating bits you end up able to see but can't get to (normally covered with black primer so in shadow but here using a bone colour and found it highly annoying on the Mk III)

leopard wrote:
loving those Spireguard.. what models are they?

They use the Cadian Infantry Squad as a base, with just the head and torso swapped out (I listed the details of that here: https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2022/05/30/enter-the-spireguard-test-unit/). The paint scheme serves to further separate them from their Cadian roots.

Hope that helps!

MongooseMatt wrote:

leopard wrote:
loving those Spireguard.. what models are they?

They use the Cadian Infantry Squad as a base, with just the head and torso swapped out (I listed the details of that here: https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2022/05/30/enter-the-spireguard-test-unit/). The paint scheme serves to further separate them from their Cadian roots.

Hope that helps!

it does indeed, seriously nicely done, thought they were some 1800's era model

Have a question to ask you regarding the Land Raider Proteus Lascannon mounts: IIRC, 40K/Epic/etc rules have always stated that the firing arc of the swivel mounts is 180 degrees on either side of the hull. This is not reflected convincingly on the model, have a look at these two picts

First pict shows the intended build using components meant to accomodate a dual Lascannon. I have extended the swivel mount as far as physically possible - true firing arc would be pathetically off from a theoretical 180 degree one

Second pict show s wivel mount deliberately built using the bits meant for a Spartan instead, which accomodates a quad lascannon. While looking weird when mounted with only a dual Lascannon, the swivel now extends to much farther towards that theoretical 180 deg sweetness

My OCD would very much like to use the longer Spartan swivel mounts on the dual Lascannons, but then the swivel mount extra armour plate doesn't extend far enough, looking slightly stumped. Any ideas how I could convert the swivel plates to extend a bit further into the guns? Plasticard bits cut into shape?

PS; Apologies for any mold lines, build is still WIP

the old plastic model allowed the weapons to pivot over vertically to face backwards...

you still got blind spots out to either side from about 2:00 - 4:00 & 8:00 to 10:00 on the clock face

and a honking blind spot right in front and right behind the game used to have, plus a narrow overlap front and rear where both could fire

the way they had it the guns had a fixed bar that came out of the side with a ball on the end - captured in a socket with a slot - they could "yaw" left and right viewed from above and rotate 360 around the bar axis

not sure you can get what you want with the top/bottom mount without totally rebuilding it


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leopard wrote:
loving those Spireguard.. what models are they?

had a go using some French Napoleonic Old Guard (had to leave the muskets on them as the las guns looked utterly ridiculous, even more so than Old Guard painted red & white, which itself took some doing)

today I haz been mostly working on some Mk VI, and fighting with some decals on some Mk III for my new Death Guard.

experimenting with painting, the base colours at least, on the frames prior to assembly to make getting at some of the more fiddly bits a bit easier.. will see if the pain is worth it when the first five are done

there is a logic there, to get at all the irritating bits you end up able to see but can't get to (normally covered with black primer so in shadow but here using a bone colour and found it highly annoying on the Mk III)

Note: don't paint the Mk VI on the frames, you will have to repaint to cover up removing mould lines on the sides of the legs...

now experimenting with body & legs assembly and paint, arms to follow once painted

 tauist wrote:

 The Riddle of Steel wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Looks great!

As someone who will eventually be painting up a HH White Scars force, can you share your technique for getting that fantastic looking white?

Thanks. I’ve been looking for ways to speed up painting white without an airbrush and this is the best I’ve come up with so far. I want pure white and not off white or grey because my brother plays World Eaters and Death Guard and so I want my Scars to stand out as whiter than those Legions, where he can use a dirtier white technique.

Spray with Grey Seer primer in rattle can (I find the contrast primers have the smoothest finish and not gritty)
Spray Tamiya white paint (not primer) in rattle can, sprayed from above and all around except not from directly below. This leaves the underside a slight grey and gives some slight shadowing.
Black line all recesses using oil based black paint
Done!
Weathering is just sponged on dark grey (Eshin) and then some weathering powder for dust on the feet
That’s it.

The Tamiya white spray has a very slightly semi-gloss or more eggshell type finish that helps the black oil paint very easily flow into the recesses naturally so you don’t need to spend ages trying to paint thin black lines. Just touch the black to a crevice and it runs along. It sometimes gets messy but much easier than using thinned black acrylic like I did for years. The black lining makes the white pop without any highlights.

I’ll post some closer photos so you can see if you like the look. Good luck with the Sons of the Great Khan.

Just checked out your Scars and have to say they look great! Just one question if I may - What made you settle on a black oil wash? I'd think grey or dark grey would have given a less contrasty a shade.. unless of course, you wanted as much contrast as possible?

I like how you mixed things up with the shoulderpads a little, keeps the models looking more like individuals

Thanks for the feedback!

I did not apply it as a full wash. I wanted to keep the white as pure white, but I wanted to emphasize the definition between the plates so I black-lined the recesses. I was using regular black until I saw some tutorials on using oil paint. I still only paint the recesses with it and did not wash the armor plates, if I could avoid it. I used pure black because I wanted high contrast to show the lines and to match the models I already painted.

And yes, I try to mix up the armor, helmets, decals and red spot color because to me the White Scars feel like a very individualistic Legion.

leopard wrote:


the old plastic model allowed the weapons to pivot over vertically to face backwards...

you still got blind spots out to either side from about 2:00 - 4:00 & 8:00 to 10:00 on the clock face

and a honking blind spot right in front and right behind the game used to have, plus a narrow overlap front and rear where both could fire

the way they had it the guns had a fixed bar that came out of the side with a ball on the end - captured in a socket with a slot - they could "yaw" left and right viewed from above and rotate 360 around the bar axis

not sure you can get what you want with the top/bottom mount without totally rebuilding it

Cool! Didn't know the og plastic kit worked better than the new one in that regard. And yep, I'll still have some blind spots even with the Spartan mount, but the remaining blind spots are not bothering me as much as a gun that seems to have no firing arc at all. The difference in angles is really stark when viewed directly from above. I suppose another way to tackle this would be to alter the shape of the Lascannons, cutting the end of the lower Lascannon to be shorter would also improve firing arc significantly. I'll keep exploring, tht option might be an easier mod to pull off aesthetically speaking..

Speaking of MKVI, as suggested, I dont recommend trying to paint them on the sprue (too many mold lines). Glueing the legs on pose #5 is especially fiddly, you want to take your time with them if you want neat leg joins without drowning the pieces in glue (and potentially making a mess)

leopard wrote:


it does indeed, seriously nicely done, thought they were some 1800's era model

On that front, if anyone ever wants to do a 40k-style Praetorian regiment, the Zulu-era British Army models from Warlord Games accept a weapon swap for a Lasgun very well...

Back to Prospero though, I have been getting quite productive over the Christmas break. Managed to finish off a Knight-Preceptor for House Malinax (think they spent most of their time in Tizca hunting down fleeing civilians, so not the most heroic).

Having been put in touch with a local Heresy group, I guess it’s time for me to ugh start painting.

Going for a speedy, neat table top standard. Nothing too fancy, but hopefully a bit beyond simple “three colours and base”.

As a super reluctant painter, but also someone with no after work obligations, I’m going to aim for 10 Marines per week, starting with my Line infantry. And once a unit is done, do a Dread or a Tank to avoid monotony. And once my session stamina is stronger, maybe 20 infantry during the week (which to be honest is a piffling 4 per evening) and a Dread/Tank of the weekend.

Have you thought about going the contrast/other-company-equivalent route, Doc? If painting isn't your thing, they might be of use to you for getting your quick base coats down.

Going with Dark Angels, and have never liked the Contrast results for black,

I do however have an airbrush, and a really nice glossish black for it from Vallejo.

I figure I basecoat 20 in on evening using the airbrush. From there, do 5 Marines a night, churning out a squad a week with time to spare.

I think I’m probably a better painter than I give myself credit, I just need to build up hobby stamina and not expect super speed - a hangover from “gifted child” days.

Or even just do a stage or two a night across all 20.

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