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I only got to using Army Painter because when I started my 2024 Hobby Odyssey (which frankly is a much better name for it which I think I’ll adopt) that’s what my FLGS had in stock. It’s also converted me to the Dropper Bottle Cause.

Still stick with GW brushes though, mostly because of ease of availability.

In other Hobby News, I’m getting right good at rivets. So right good, and such a difference they make, I’m gonna have to revisit my other tanks and do theirs.

 morganfreeman wrote:
Thank you! Finding a way to shade the white was legitimately the hardest part of getting my paint scheme. Ended up going with a heavy cut version of Holy White by army painter.

That is a lot of infantry! I could never paint that many dudes for an army - not even for my Orks. I have basically hit the wall building Space Wolves, and I only have a fraction of what you have.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
In other Hobby News, I’m getting right good at rivets. So right good, and such a difference they make, I’m gonna have to revisit my other tanks and do theirs.

But why are the rivets silver, Dok?

Because I can’t be arsed to properly highlight without Contrast/Speed Paints, and the silver brings them out nicely, mirroring the studs on the MkVI shoulder pad.

got myself 3 more 21 cm Mörser from takom to stand in as artillery for my milita for carriages also thinking about getting another 120 in infantry....



for those curious.

I was curious, and found the kit. It looks great, and suits the HH aesthetic. I had that kind of look in mind when I converted the Guard artillery kits for my Mikitia. It’s 1:35 scale - I know that some people say that GW models are about that scale, but normal infantry aren’t. How does it look next to (say) a Guardsman? Also - I’m not a huge fan of the Chaos spiked thing just stuck on the gun shield. It kind of spoils the model. IMO.

 Snord wrote:
I was curious, and found the kit. It looks great, and suits the HH aesthetic. I had that kind of look in mind when I converted the Guard artillery kits for my Mikitia. It’s 1:35 scale - I know that some people say that GW models are about that scale, but normal infantry aren’t. How does it look next to (say) a Guardsman? Also - I’m not a huge fan of the Chaos spiked thing just stuck on the gun shield. It kind of spoils the model. IMO.

Good actually.

Yeah, it looks pretty cool. Better than the GW gun, really.

Just started Heresy! Word Bearers getting there.
Do you have any go-to resources, like websites or blogs you use to determine where legion markings and decals go on the models? Or do you just use the Liber Hereticus book?






Feedback is welcomed on the painting -- is the red bright enough, and should the shoulder black be highlighted? Seeing where I can cut corners to keep the paint time per model down. Thanks

If you can get the old black books there's more there.

I think you did a great job. But no scriptures?

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you can get the old black books there's more there.

I think you did a great job. But no scriptures?

I bought these assembled and used. Look what a heresy search on Etsy yielded:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1433701446/70x-miniature-scrolls-oaths-papers?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=warhammer+scripture+bits&ref=sr_gallery-1-1&bes=1&sts=1&mto=1&content_source=4d376db779bb4e89407d418f7d9575f1287d827b%253A1433701446&organic_search_click=1

My hereticus book has not arrived yet. Are these scripture scrolls common on most models for Word Bearers? I may need to buy these!
PS -- I should get them WITHOUT purity seals, correct?
He also has chaos seals, books, etc. Not sure what is the best for lore wise, I'm only a few books in on the series.

I meant written text, maybee an overly extreme exemple but this:


But some paper like the ones you found there may well work. Other places for that are plague monks and flagelants... though you'd be very lucky to get them nowadays for a decent price.

Not Online!!! wrote:
I meant written text, maybee an overly extreme exemple but this:


But some paper like the ones you found there may well work. Other places for that are plague monks and flagelants... though you'd be very lucky to get them nowadays for a decent price.

oh that is awesome, I'll consider it. Figuring where to put decals first.
Glad you like my progress so far, thanks!

Right.

Now I’ve seen it, it’s annoying me. And misery loves company. Never mind this is the fourth iteration of the base kit I’ve painted and I’ve never noticed before, it’s noticed now and will forever be so.

The studs. On the track links. Left hand facing is one at the top, two at the bottom. Right hand facing is two at the top, one at the bottom.

No, I didn’t build it incorrectly, because it’s really obvious if you’ve got a track link on the wrong side.

GAAAAAAAHHHH!

Did a couple test models for DA, i'm conflicted on whether or not to make the base rim black or steel legion drab. For a while i've generally considered black rims to be the safe option.

Very nice!

I think I prefer the tan base?

I used to only do black rims, but one day something just switched in me and I decided to go brown instead.

I haven't tried Steel Legion Drab but I did try the Two Thin Coats equivalent and thought it was too light-colored. I eventually settled on Pro Acryl Dark Golden Brown for base rims and it's perfect for me.

I also just picked up a box of the new MkIII marines. Not completely sure how I want to build them, but the design of these guys has really been growing on me.

Maybe i'll do a third one with dryad bark or rhinox hide base rims instead. I think the DA units with bone colored armor sections might look better with the black rim. It's a very dark color scheme on the tabletop which makes things kinda tricky.

The newer mk III marines are cool, I think I prefer the older heads though as the new ones look kinda Death Guard specific, and almost like mk II. Mk III should look like mk II with a slab of metal added to the front, and they kinda moved away from that look for some reason.

Now at the stage where I have no Heresy units at least not partially painted, with the only one awaiting finishing my Cataphractii.

Not bad going, given at the end of the year nothing was painted, and a fair chunk wasn’t even assembled.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:
Just started Heresy! Word Bearers getting there.

Do you have any go-to resources, like websites or blogs you use to determine where legion markings and decals go on the models? Or do you just use the Liber Hereticus book?
Feedback is welcomed on the painting -- is the red bright enough, and should the shoulder black be highlighted? Seeing where I can cut corners to keep the paint time per model down. Thanks

Welcome to Heresy. WB are looking good so far!
For Word Bearers, I think the red as you have it at moment is a bit too bright (unless it's the camera throwing off the saturation). Most WB armies tend towards the purpley red or a browner red scheme. But at the end of the day if you're happy with it, then keep it going!
If you're looking to keep painting time down, and/or will be using decals, I wouldn't bother highlighting the black shoulder pads or even the weapons for that matter. Against the red armour and siver accents, the black's going to be overshadowed anyway. Although what you could do with the weapons if give the whole thing a lite drybrush with silver. Then you've highlighted both black and silver parts in one swoop and has the added bonus of being easy to do in large batches, which once again cuts down on your time-per-mini.

The best resource for Legion markings is definitely the old Black Books, books 2 and 5 specifically have plenty of 17th Legion.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve never noticed before, it’s noticed now and will forever be so.

Curses on you, sir. Now I'll never be able to not notice it either...

Time to get the scalpel out and shave off every track rivet there is!

 Thargrim wrote:
[url=https://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/1193592-.html]Did a couple test models for DA, i'm conflicted on whether or not to make the base rim black or steel legion drab. For a while i've generally considered black rims to be the safe option.

Those look excellent! Nice work.
Normally I'd advocate for black rims. It gives the bases a nice neutral look, doesn't detract from the miniatures in any way and creates something of a boarder for them. Although given you're painting a black legion (the best black legion ) I'd say that in this case, the brown is a good option too. Helps stop the army feeling too black while still keeping something of the non-distracting neutrality. Although personally, i'd be going for a slightly darker brown then the tan you've used.

 Thargrim wrote:
Did a couple test models for DA, i'm conflicted on whether or not to make the base rim black or steel legion drab. For a while i've generally considered black rims to be the safe option.

The black rim looks very good when they’re on display, or in photos, but I think a dark brown looks better on the table. I use Rhinox Hide.

 Thargrim wrote:




Did a couple test models for DA, i'm conflicted on whether or not to make the base rim black or steel legion drab. For a while i've generally considered black rims to be the safe option.

I'm black rim through and through, but others have a point about display pieces vs table pieces.

I know that is not much help, but every time I go steel legion drab or a brown on my rims I take a second glance and paint black over it.
So that is my thing going forward, I just think it looks sharp, makes models easy to find in battle, and doesn't conflict with a different color table as much.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Now I’ve seen it, it’s annoying me. And misery loves company. Never mind this is the fourth iteration of the base kit I’ve painted and I’ve never noticed before, it’s noticed now and will forever be so.

The studs. On the track links. Left hand facing is one at the top, two at the bottom. Right hand facing is two at the top, one at the bottom.

No, I didn’t build it incorrectly, because it’s really obvious if you’ve got a track link on the wrong side.

When I saw this I rushed over to check my Spartan’s tracks. It doesn’t have this issue. I wonder what happened?

 Thargrim wrote:




Did a couple test models for DA, i'm conflicted on whether or not to make the base rim black or steel legion drab. For a while i've generally considered black rims to be the safe option.

Looking gorgeous!

My default is Dryad Bark, it's a good compromise between separation and blending in, and goes with pretty much any mat.

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you can get the old black books there's more there.

I think you did a great job. But no scriptures?

Greetings again everyone.

Quick question -- the old black books, where is the best place to purchase?
And for Word Bearers specifically, is there a number or edition I should pick up?

A link to something such as an ebay auction would be amazing.

Thanks!
~
M

Unfortunately, outside of sheer dumb luck, you're very unlikely to ever find them for a reasonable price.

Ebay is generally not a good place to look, although you are likely to find some there, they'll be going for stupid money as people believe just because you can slap an OOP tag on an item that means you can charge a kings ransom for an it.
Facebook trading groups is likely the best bet. There's a few dedicated Heresy trading pages where the books do crop up. They're still far from being cheap, but they'll be a slightly more reasonable price as in my experience people tend to call out the overpriced nonsense.

If you are set on hunting down the black books, then books 2 (Massacre) and 5 (Tempest) are the ones with Word Bearer's stuff in them.

 Shrapnelsmile wrote:

Not Online!!! wrote:
If you can get the old black books there's more there.

I think you did a great job. But no scriptures?

Greetings again everyone.

Quick question -- the old black books, where is the best place to purchase?
And for Word Bearers specifically, is there a number or edition I should pick up?

A link to something such as an ebay auction would be amazing.

Thanks!
~
M

Noble Knight Games sells them secondhand. Prices range from reasonable to dumb.

I appreciate the info gentlemen.

 Snord wrote:
Yeah, it looks pretty cool. Better than the GW gun, really.

Funnily enough my 3 ordered ones just came. They improved the kit markedly, especially the wheel variants.

So the more astute readers of this thread will note it’s been more than two days since my last post. I did manage to build and undercoat it in two days, but I don’t think I appreciated quite how big it was. So several stolen hours of adding the details later, here’s all the dakka dakka Kratos.

I'll be interested to hear how that performs