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chaos0xomega wrote:
I think they nerfed the legacy lists by formally partnering/taking control of the ITC circuit. There was a big "no TO in their right mind movement will ban legacy lists, GW can say whatever they want, were going to play them in tournaments anyway" movement, at least on facebook, but if GW controls the tournament circuit? Well, good luck. You can host your info tournaments but if all the incentive and prize support is behind the official circuit then that's where the TOs and players will flock to.

Yeah, no.....

First, have you ever been to a GW led event? Because they don't actually provide prize support (which is saying something considering how poor regular ITC frontline events are in that regard). Second this is just the finalizing essentially of the sale of the frontline ITC circuit to GW which began last year (maybe the year before). They only account for maybe 12 actual events for the year. Third ITC isn't going to be a driving force for ToW any more than it already is for HH. ITC points and such are almost exclusively a 40k thing with only AoS really also caring the slightest bit.

TLR - This isn't going to affect many, if any, TO's that already were going to allow legacy lists.

 nathan2004 wrote:
Anyone have suggestions on proxies using GW models for a Chaos Dragon?

Glue a second head on a dragon? Glue only two heads on a hydra, and put wings in place of the spare necks? Use both heads in the Chaos Manticore kit? Shell out too much for AoS Archaon? Stick a Chaos dude on Kairos Fateweaver's shoulders?

https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/dragon-2022

If I put the chaos lord from the manticore kit on that would that work?

On the moria dragon, I didn't know they still sold that

 nathan2004 wrote:
Anyone have suggestions on proxies using GW models for a Chaos Dragon?

I think I still have a frustratingly unbuilt Galrauch I plan to use...

 nathan2004 wrote:
https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/dragon-2022

If I put the chaos lord from the manticore kit on that would that work?

Iirc the dragon is actually fairly small, not sire it'll look right.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/01/20/old-world-almanack-the-orc-and-goblin-tribes/

Greenskin box, Almanac, new and returning models!



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I'm surprised to see the bad old plastic common goblins, although I don't know why. The REAL surprise are the plastic 6th edition starter set Orcs.

WOO

Hopefully this means the FW dwarf command will be brought back. Great looking thane

No Azhag MTO is sad. Also the new resin shaman gets a pot grot? Guess they do what you to use some aos models. Looks like stone trolls will be MTO as well.

The Troll Hag returns!

Box is underwhelming probably just get individual kits

also these are going straight in my AoS army

The two new models are fantastic but both FW resin. No new plastics for greenskins.

Only two new resin models is a bit disappointing, I was hoping that every army would get at least one new plastic kit. Was hoping for an updated Boar Chariot (with optional character builds like the Royal Pegasus kit).

Really should have at least thrown the plastic Warboss in the box huh.

 stahly wrote:
Only two new resin models is a bit disappointing, I was hoping that every army would get at least one new plastic kit. Was hoping for an updated Boar Chariot (with optional character builds like the Royal Pegasus kit).

I’m worried the new dwarf shieldbearers will be resin as well. I’m wondering if the anvil of doom will stay metal

I might spring for a couple of boxes of Boar Boys, if only for the heads.

Well, overall it's still a strong miniatures range. Chariot boars excepted.

Both characters are great but why resin? Couldn't they make at least one in plastic?

 stahly wrote:
Only two new resin models is a bit disappointing, I was hoping that every army would get at least one new plastic kit. Was hoping for an updated Boar Chariot (with optional character builds like the Royal Pegasus kit).

Yeah, I was pretty shocked at that. But the new resin models look amazing and that is a hell of a range they are bringing back witch some absolute crackers as made to order as well- the marauder giant, the wyvern, the old trolls...

Great that the troll hag gets released too!

Very excited by the MTO range, love those classic trolls.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 stahly wrote:
Only two new resin models is a bit disappointing, I was hoping that every army would get at least one new plastic kit. Was hoping for an updated Boar Chariot (with optional character builds like the Royal Pegasus kit).

I’m worried the new dwarf shieldbearers will be resin as well. I’m wondering if the anvil of doom will stay metal

I would say probably they will both be resin, then again I was surprised the gobbo war machines stayed metal.
The made to order metals could also open up a lot of possibilities - the old miners, the old longbeards and there were plenty of classic metal sculpts of characters as well...

Marauder giant MtO? Ah gak.

Yay, gobbos!
New characters are great (except the tongue on the boss - it looks weird)
But I’m mostly glad to see NG command and a bunch of metal/resin stuff I didn’t manage to buy on time in the past.
The battalion is boring, good for starting a fantasy orc collection though. But it really misses any flavour - 10 boar boys and a boss instead of goblin arches would make it way more intriguing.

Kinda sad about 0 new plastics- at least 1 would’ve been neat (vanilla goblins/boar chariot/vanilla trolls seeing that there is some sort of troll horde list in the journal)
PS: Jokes on you, person selling ng command on trolltrader for £100, I nearly fell for your trap.

MTO Stone Trolls are going to bankrupt me! Deffo getting that army box to go with my Black Orcs, but those chariot boars look very dated next to the "newer" boar boyz. Anyone know if it's possible to replace the older boars with the boar boyz ones, how much converting it would take?

I'll happily field them either way.

Those two new resin characters are really cool.
I cant help thinking the river troll hat would regenerate and start talking.

Really glad to see the troll hag included.

Isn't the launch party today at Warhammer World? Anyone there?

 Bonegrinder wrote:
MTO Stone Trolls are going to bankrupt me! Deffo getting that army box to go with my Black Orcs, but those chariot boars look very dated next to the "newer" boar boyz. Anyone know if it's possible to replace the older boars with the boar boyz ones, how much converting it would take?

I'll happily field them either way.

Same! Stone trolls are my favourite and being made to order I'll have no idea on how many to get and will have a panic over it!

I'm really excited to see a troll army list! I have a ridiculous amount of trolls anyway (and currently building 12 more AoS ones right now!) and I'm clearly going to panic buy MTO ones! I guess they are bringing back the 'common' troll as the standard one because the stone trolls are easily available, where as the common ones never seemed that popular.

I was surprised to see ogres as part of the release, I don't know which models they will be.

As Dave says, the new resins will look great in a jawz force. The majority of it hasn't aged particularly well again. I never realizrd how damn derpy the face on the plastic foot boss was.

With the 6th Edition Starter Set Ork Part; I hope for the old State Troops of the Empire to Return...

I am stunned by the lack of new plastic kits. I figured they'd do.... more?

Also curious, it says nightgoblin kits will be released later... are they talking about a different nightgoblin kit from the one currently available for AoS (which itself was a whfb kit)?

I guess it's possible there's a new gitz kit coming for AoS and then the old ones will get dumped back.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Also curious, it says nightgoblin kits will be released later... are they talking about a different nightgoblin kit from the one currently available for AoS (which itself was a whfb kit)?

Or they will get Skull Pass one where the current will stay with AOS?