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Did they need it, no. Will it sell well, you bet. Theyre great sculpts that cover a bunch of gaps in the range, plus thsy telegraph intent for the rest of the range. Core resculpts wont be far behind.

Or they do a range of character type models for each faction so they don't feel neglected, then come around and do resculpts.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Did they need it, no. Will it sell well, you bet. Theyre great sculpts that cover a bunch of gaps in the range, plus thsy telegraph intent for the rest of the range. Core resculpts wont be far behind.

No, I think they needed it. Looking at warhammer.com, the ONLY plastic characters in their range are included with monsters.

My bretts also currently don't have any plastic characters outside of the royal pegasus lord and currently no model available with either a hippogryph or on a warhorse though and I wouldn't say that my bretts have a dire need of plastic characters.

Tomb kings already had plenty character models already, albeit not on a horse; that is new. But to say that they needed these is a bit of a stretch i think.

I do think we'll get some character models with narrative arcane journals for the near future and i quite like that!

The TK models basically replace older metal models currently in their line. I see them as the first step toward steadily replacing the old models. We might see the old ones hang around or vanish when these new ones come out. Then we will hopeflully see a steady replacement of old things happening to all armies bit by bit.

I'm just glad to see any new hard plastics for TOW.

If each faction gets a new plastic kit every year or so that would be plenty for long-term support of the game.

I think it'll settle into the pattern of blood bowl and necromunda in terms of releases over the long run.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Setting wise, Beastmen were doing nothing in AoS aside from being punching bags in pretty much every other army's books where as they're a major player in ToW.

Dark Elves also still feature very heavily in two AoS armies, people just choose to stay with all the new human units for one of those.

So... like dwarves, I guess?

Also, I couldn't help but laught when I saw the Chaos Dwaves's AoS reveal... I think there's like one single thing for which there's no stats in the current Legacy list.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Setting wise, Beastmen were doing nothing in AoS aside from being punching bags in pretty much every other army's books where as they're a major player in ToW.

Dark Elves also still feature very heavily in two AoS armies, people just choose to stay with all the new human units for one of those.

So... like dwarves, I guess?

Also, I couldn't help but laught when I saw the Chaos Dwaves's AoS reveal... I think there's like one single thing for which there's no stats in the current Legacy list.

Yeah such a shame that the chorf are for AOS and not TOW.

Im no AOS fan, but i like the game better when it tries to be original (KO for example). When they "copy" so directly from WHFB, it only reminds me that it cant hold a candle to his predecessor

 streetsamurai wrote:


Yeah such a shame that the chorf are for AOS and not TOW.

Im no AOS fan, but i like the game better when it tries to be original (KO for example). When they "copy" so directly from WHFB, it only reminds me that it cant hold a candle to his predecessor

Sometimes they manage to pull it off and provide fantastic dual-use ranges. The recent skaven release was basically an update to large parts of their established roster, same with soulblight, seraphon and greenskins. With chaos dwarfs it feels like they wanted to have their cake and eat it, too, by pandering to the old guard and infuse the range with some of their more modern design cues at the same time. If they had fully committed to the design of the hashut warband or the bull centaur alternative build, that could've been something original and spectacular in the same vein as the Kharadron or Idoneth.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Setting wise, Beastmen were doing nothing in AoS aside from being punching bags in pretty much every other army's books where as they're a major player in ToW.

Dark Elves also still feature very heavily in two AoS armies, people just choose to stay with all the new human units for one of those.

So... like dwarves, I guess?

Also, I couldn't help but laught when I saw the Chaos Dwaves's AoS reveal... I think there's like one single thing for which there's no stats in the current Legacy list.

Yeah, that’s a vey good point; only the K’Daii Fireborn (daemon-mecha ogres) don’t have a reasonable ish “counts as” in the new range or an existing model in either TOW or AoS. Though you’d probably want to convert the mortar to fire horizontally if you used it to represent the magma cannon. And the goblin spear chukka would need proper hobgrot crew.

 streetsamurai wrote:

Yeah such a shame that the chorf are for AOS and not TOW.

What exactly prevents using those models for TOW? GW-police? base size?

SU-152 wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:

Yeah such a shame that the chorf are for AOS and not TOW.

What exactly prevents using those models for TOW? GW-police? base size?

Rules.

It definitely feels like Chaos Dwarves should have been an old world release, but maybe its the only way the project got approval, for the sales to show up under the AoS sales category, even if half of them end up on square bases.

If I were an AoS player, my main concern going in would be that the army eventually gets "Old World Squatted" like Beasts of Chaos did.

It's a good way to get money from both playerbases, get people to buy it as an AoS army, then once sales falter in a decade or so, shove it in TOW to get a second round of profit out of it.