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Well yeah, like I say, for that reason I don't see them making a show based off any existing story in the first place. There's no need to, and then you don't face all the criticism about changing it too much. You just make the transvestite ork series in the first place and call it something else.

Tossing my hat on the "this is going to be terrible" pile.

 Olthannon wrote:
I think we can all agree that people are going to piss their pants about something .

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 xttz wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
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Everything GW does is awful, and if this show isn't true to all that stuff it's going to be a disaster!

The worst part of all this will be weeks and weeks of slowpokes reposting it online the moment they find out.

 Flinty wrote:
To be honest I would be happy with something like this

Yes...YES! SOLD!

SamusDrake wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
To be honest I would be happy with something like this

Yes...YES! SOLD!

Bonus points if they get the Fire of Wrath kid form the Heroquest commercial

SamusDrake wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
To be honest I would be happy with something like this

Yes...YES! SOLD!

Given some of Amazon's current productions they would probably think this is a billion well spent....

After the first episode...

 Whirlwind wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
To be honest I would be happy with something like this

Yes...YES! SOLD!

Given some of Amazon's current productions they would probably think this is a billion well spent....

After the first episode...

I hope they do something like that, but with Cavill and completely played straight, for a aprils fools teaser or sth. like that

Cavill being an executive producer gives me faith in this project.

If he had been for The Witcher-series as well, that show would've been so much better.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The worst part of all this will be weeks and weeks of slowpokes reposting it online the moment they find out.

It was posted like ten times on r/40klore so far. I think the worst part is all the theory videos and "BTS breakdowns" that 40k channels will do in the years leading up to the show

SamusDrake wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
To be honest I would be happy with something like this

Yes...YES! SOLD!

Have the entire production be crappy props, kids in ill-fitting costumes, and Henry dressed up perfectly as an Inquistor trying to figure out what Chaos power did this to the universe...

 Galas wrote:
Just give me some animated stuff with the quality of Riot's Arcane for warhammer.

I mean, I would love that too, but you realize the sheer amount of effort, money and talent they needed to pour for Arcane to be how it is now, right?

Tsagualsa wrote:
Stick some sideburns on Cavill, then stick sideburns on the sideburns and have him play Ciaphas Cain It's perfect for episodic TV, you can have Amberley off-screen narrate exposition, the stories in general are a bit more humorous than 'ra ra genocide ra fundamentalism', Cains frequent travels allow for anything from large plots to 'monster of the week' style stories, and because he meets a lot of people and is a womanizer you can have your diversity and romance if you need them. Also, Cain often acts as a exposition dump to his acquaintances, so you have another opportunity to introduce the lore that's necessary for the episode without messing up the timing too much.

Cavill does a good straight face, so honestly I like this idea.


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
Vin Diesel is a massive 40k fan, hopefully he will be in it as well.

Vin Diesel as Inquisitor Fahm Lee.

Also your comment is the best one in the thread

I'm cautiously optimistic. At least there's involvement from a relatively major player that does know the Universe well enough that it shouldn't stray too far, and GW is often pretty good at keeping the IP on track in licensed media.

Hoping for a relatively human centric tale, Guard/Arbites/Inquisitor or similar, as it's relatable to an audience that is not familiar with the lore (sci-fi soldiers in space with aliens) - slight touch of Astartes later on, so long as they don't show up and win at the end, maybe GC or Chaos as the 'bad guys' to keep it a bit more human overall, and Aliens or Daemons and Cults are common enough TV things that it'll be understandable to the uninitiated. Really it needs to be approachable to an audience unfamiliar with WH40K, while providing enough exposition to bring them in, and also true to the lore as much as possible so fans will be interested too.

If it ends up as a meme and trope filled ball of gak, I'll be disappointed. Either way, no matter what happens the most vocal will get their undergarments in a twist over something - so prep for a steady stream of complaints about something that doesn't even exist yet.

The_Real_Chris wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Grumpy Gnome wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
HH is a brother on brother bloodbath, that's not good feels. Space Marines saving a Guard army from xenos or chaos is good feels and relatable. Maybe with an inquisitorial scheme subplot so it's not just a 12 hour battle report.

How is anything 40k “good feels and relatable“?

Triumph of the human spirit.

Despite the Imperium, that then often crushes said human spirit.

Maybe if you are a fan of Brazil style bureaucracy its great?

A lot of it remains the reaction to the destruction of communities done by governments in the 80's. Hollywood doesn't seem to run with that oddly. I didn't see much of Constantine but I don't remember it having the backdrop of the convulsions in 80's London.

A “there are no good guys as per official GW” Grimdark 40k Movie that brings the satirical “there is only war” British IP to mainstream international audiences…. What could possibly go wrong?

This thread has already proven a number of folks have ignored the GW official statement that there are no goodies in 40K and see the Imperium, or at least elements of it, as “the heroes” of the story. I mean comparing anything 40k to a Band of Brothers style show seems incredibly out of sync with actual lore.

Much as I like Cavill I can not see this project ending up as anything other than like the World of Warcraft movie… or perhaps the Mutant Chronicles movie.

I really can’t be bothered to trawl through pages of turgid “it’ll be crap” posts.

I for one, am excited to see what emerges from this.

Make it a Flesh Eater show in which most of the story is standard Space Marine heroics, but with the occasional casual canibalism. Like saving a group of civilians from a bunch of Orks only to eat the civilians after the fight because they were hungry.

I'm having fun with the usual crowds making a mess of themselves.

 Overread wrote:

 warboss wrote:
I hope that his status as an executive producer will help the show stay on focus and consistent with the core material. Not everything that Amazon produces is garbage so there is hope.

GW are also pretty hot on keeping on top of the presentation of the lore. I think its one reason some bigger studios in video games don't sign with them for the IP, because GW 100% would be breathing down their necks the whole time. Same reason we've likely never seen a Hollywood spacemarines film. GW know that a big part of the draw of their core business is the lore and that if they abuse that too much it will break and that destroys a huge area of returning customers and attracting new customers.

I hope that remains true under his guidance as an executive producer. I've been disappointed by previously on point corporations that suddenly don't care about the quality of their own IP (most recently with the MCU and LOTR) so I'm probably going to keep a "believe it when I see it" approach to the whole thing.

I think if they go with small in a big universe they will be ok.

It needs to be really zoomed in on a small amount of people with the occasional peak at the bigger story.

5-10 man squad of some type and stay away from grand sweeping arcs that everyone thinks they know all the details of.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Necromunda as a setting is far more relatable.

You get the hell scape of 40K in one easy package, with limited amounts of the more fantastical elements.

We're still supposedly getting a 'Tales of Mega-City One' streaming show at some point, so I'd happily leave all the gang warfare to that series.

As for that logo, I think that it might be one for 10th Edition.

This will be a disaster if they try a play out a major story line with the big characters like the primarchs. They could do the HH but need to commit to a huge a mount of programming.

I’d suspect that they will do the usual to make the story accessible to non 40K fans and make it about ultramarines.


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Dark angels have a good wrapper for a bigger story. There is a secret past and they are hunting down mysterious traitors for undisclosed reasons. Lots to play with there.

However if they go for one of the established legions they are going to have to explain the difference between primaris and old marine, yawn.

They could go for a new chapter of primaris

Armada cinematics seemed to do a good job of introducing the galaxy at large while focusing on a particular conflict.

I'm sure they aren't going to try and tell some massive storyline with vast battles and legions and marines and whole worlds burned and such.

I think if people really want an idea of what kind of story they'll get I'd look at Hammer and Bolter stories or even the recent Inquisition one. Small stories and events that flesh out the world in small steps.


Sure we are unlikely to get any major battles for a time, but there's a huge wealth that GW and Amazon can make that isn't huge battlefields.



Also I think some people need to remember that a grim dark setting isn't a literal hellscape every single place in the setting. There are peaceful worlds; places where Chaos is a boogyman word; there are characters who do good things and who are heroes ;there are grey characters who are heroes but do some nasty things; there are twisted madmen. There's everything in the setting.

Sometimes the grim dark element is strong, sometimes its weaker, sometimes its just that the hero won a great victory but that ultimately they've not touched the surface of all the battles that need winning to turn the tide

But Warhammer+ is also for heavily enfranchised players. This needs to anchor whatever storyline it does into the grand setting for people who don't know what the setting is.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
But Warhammer+ is also for heavily enfranchised players. This needs to anchor whatever storyline it does into the grand setting for people who don't know what the setting is.

What you describe is both a meaningless and an impossible objective. The setting is too vast.

This will anchor people into the concept of the Imperium. There will be no marines, primarchs, xenos, etc. except as cameos or referential easter eggs.

It will likely be focused on Space Marines with Xenos depicted as villain's so I have no interest in watching racially biased propaganda from the Imperium.

If the show is a reskin of Gilligan's Island meets Lost in Space then the show will be amazing.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Just give me some animated stuff with the quality of Riot's Arcane for warhammer.

I mean, I would love that too, but you realize the sheer amount of effort, money and talent they needed to pour for Arcane to be how it is now, right?

6 years , 100 million dollars.

The worst part was asking the French to do it. But one has to be willing to make sacrifices to achieve true greatness.

 Galas wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Galas wrote:
Just give me some animated stuff with the quality of Riot's Arcane for warhammer.

I mean, I would love that too, but you realize the sheer amount of effort, money and talent they needed to pour for Arcane to be how it is now, right?

6 years , 100 million dollars.

The worst part was asking the French to do it. But one has to be willing to make sacrifices to achieve true greatness.

France actually has quite a well supported animation industry. At least way better than the USA who mostly abandoned it for either CGI or those "adult" shows like Southpark.

So yeah no shock that they went to France