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Apple fox wrote:
Those are some good boxes, just the 40k one being a bit meh.
At least the Australian box is a great start to kill team.
That’s 3 teams isn’t it?

Edit- Ohh it’s havocs, lol don’t think they make a Kill team from the box.
Still not bad there.
But could be better, overpriced characters minis drag the boxes down.

In addition to those being Havocs, Warzone Moroch is a terrain box, there's no squads in it. It's the exact opposite of a great start to Kill Team.

Yeah the terrain box is cool if you want terrain, but I think it would be harder to resell than the UK drop.

I was expecting to get the old Khorne berzerkers or soon-to-be-obsolete codexes, so I'm fairly relieved

 Platuan4th wrote:

Apple fox wrote:
Those are some good boxes, just the 40k one being a bit meh.
At least the Australian box is a great start to kill team.
That’s 3 teams isn’t it?

Edit- Ohh it’s havocs, lol don’t think they make a Kill team from the box.
Still not bad there.
But could be better, overpriced characters minis drag the boxes down.

In addition to those being Havocs, Warzone Moroch is a terrain box, there's no squads in it. It's the exact opposite of a great start to Kill Team.

Havocs and a box of walls and hills are a great start to a gunline army tho

 Platuan4th wrote:

Apple fox wrote:
Those are some good boxes, just the 40k one being a bit meh.
At least the Australian box is a great start to kill team.
That’s 3 teams isn’t it?

Edit- Ohh it’s havocs, lol don’t think they make a Kill team from the box.
Still not bad there.
But could be better, overpriced characters minis drag the boxes down.

In addition to those being Havocs, Warzone Moroch is a terrain box, there's no squads in it. It's the exact opposite of a great start to Kill Team.

……..well. Ok then. That’s a crappy deal, there terrain is way overpriced as well. I was actually thinking I had missed out on something I would have been happy to get.

Warzone Moroch was £130 at launch and I thought that was quite decent for GW terrain. The Australian box is fantastic.

You can definitely sell terrain sprues on Ebay easily enough.

Yeah, as someone who plays at home, discounted terrain has the biggest value, especially since the Fronteris stuff is so overpriced as is.

I still think that the UK AoS: Aelves drop is best of them all, it had two vanguard boxes, great for starting out one or more of the Aelves.

The UK 40k one is a bit.. meh.. but if you like Orcs, its actually decent and you can still sell the rest.

The Aussie one I would have disliked, but I am sure that many also will love it.


It will be interesting to see what the EU ends up with, it can be any side of the coin, but I suspect that the AoS: Aelves box is the exact same as the UK (due to overstocking of those two sets)

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yeah, as someone who plays at home, discounted terrain has the biggest value, especially since the Fronteris stuff is so overpriced as is.

That is a good argument for sure, but I don´t like that particular terrain, so I guess my bias comes in before logic here.. But for those that like it, it is ofc good value.

 The Phazer wrote:
Warzone Moroch was £130 at launch and I thought that was quite decent for GW terrain. The Australian box is fantastic.

Interesting as Moroch was so outrageoulsy more expensive than the GW norm they released almost the same box 6 months later as Kill Zone Moroch at half the price

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Warzone Moroch was £130 at launch and I thought that was quite decent for GW terrain. The Australian box is fantastic.

Interesting as Moroch was so outrageoulsy more expensive than the GW norm they released almost the same box 6 months later as Kill Zone Moroch at half the price

Apologies, I am getting this one mixed up, you're right! But that box was still £65 right? So that still seems reasonable.

 The Phazer wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
Warzone Moroch was £130 at launch and I thought that was quite decent for GW terrain. The Australian box is fantastic.

Interesting as Moroch was so outrageoulsy more expensive than the GW norm they released almost the same box 6 months later as Kill Zone Moroch at half the price

Apologies, I am getting this one mixed up, you're right! But that box was still £65 right? So that still seems reasonable.

Yes the second Moroch box was pretty great, getting it further discounted is sweet.

Idoneth and Fyreslayers would have been perfect for two Vanguards for me. But it seems locations got one of them and DoK each time.

Maybe more boxes info arriving will show a few variants per location.

Danny76 wrote:
Idoneth and Fyreslayers would have been perfect for two Vanguards for me. But it seems locations got one of them and DoK each time.

Maybe more boxes info arriving will show a few variants per location.

The Order one is different depending on region UK and Aussies got differently.. (nobody knows about EU yet)
The Aelves only UK is out (nobody knows about the EU one)

I have a hunch that the Aelves one will be the same for all, but the order one will be different.


DoK do seem to be a generel theme all over, so I expect everybody to get that, might have been the least selling Vanguard for them.

Honestly, I'm amazed that they included Vanguard boxes. Remember, these boxes are already discounted, so you are in effect getting a double discount.

When you add up the RRP of the individual units contained in the Vanguard boxes they come to approx £115 for each box: effectively £230 worth of products for the cost of the supply box.

I haven't added up the value of the 40k box but it does seem like 40k got the short end of the stick, both in value and lack of cohesion.

Also, It's off topic, but I remember Start Collecting sets offering a bigger discount than Vanguard boxes? Can anybody confirm?

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
Also, It's off topic, but I remember Start Collecting sets offering a bigger discount than Vanguard boxes? Can anybody confirm?

Depends on SC. Deathwatch one had amazing value, and Phobos/Stormcast/Khorne/CSM, being parts of big starter boxes, also had tons of minis for the price. Then there is the fact that Vanguards/Patrols not only are out of impulse spending range, and offer lower discounts than SC, but a lot of the time it's further diluted by including two character minis further eating up supposed worth.

Funnily enough, one of the most amazing value boxes GW did weren't even SC, it was SM unit + vehicle + upgrade sprue boxes they did several holidays ago. Priced barely above the vehicle cost, troop unit and chapter upgrade was almost free and there were no characters to eat up discount - alas, they did nothing like that since

My 40k in the UK box was the same, I collect Chaos and Orks so for me the box was an overall win and a friend of mine does Tau and GSC so its a win overall

The one interesting point tho, why were they listed as dangerous?

Pman wrote:
My 40k in the UK box was the same, I collect Chaos and Orks so for me the box was an overall win and a friend of mine does Tau and GSC so its a win overall

The one interesting point tho, why were they listed as dangerous?

Insidious Xenos. Why would it not be listed as dangerous? No greater threat to humanity.

Except maybe the heretics. They are pretty bad as well.

Pman wrote:

The one interesting point tho, why were they listed as dangerous?

I guess the Reductus Saboteur?

Pman wrote:
The one interesting point tho, why were they listed as dangerous?

So a buyer is forced to buy something else with them? While I'm not as angry at the 'loot box' itself as some others are, this bit is a little dirty on GW's part.

It might be a default for Loot Box listings in general? Ergo by default when one is created it gets the dangerous tag because GW might well do one with spraycans.
At which point it could be a simple mistake that they were listed without them.


Or could be something to try and discourage bots and scalpers. Sure nothing in those boxes is true "limited supply" but scalpers are just the kind who'd leap at stuff like that to get a majority of stock on the cheap (remember scalpers aren't those holding trade accounts with GW so they can't get wholesale prices)

But there was a limit of one per account/address wasn't there, so I think that we can rule out "scalpers"?

Or am I being Naive here?

wonder what was in the UK elves box

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
But there was a limit of one per account/address wasn't there, so I think that we can rule out "scalpers"?

Or am I being Naive here?

My understanding is that scalpers often have tricks to get around that - eg changing 1 letter in an address so that it fools the system to make an order (unless reviewed by a human); but doesn't fool the postal system. Another would be having multiple people living at the same address. So suddenly 30 people all living in the same 2 bedroom flat are ordering the same product. So sometimes throwing something else into the works can break the bots they use (which is the other thing, getting their bots to break so that even if they do scalp, they aren't at least scalping right at the launch and it gives legit people as much time as possible to get an order in.

 Argive wrote:
wonder what was in the UK elves box

Snake & Fish Aelves vanguard boxes.
So a pretty great deal


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 Overread wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:
But there was a limit of one per account/address wasn't there, so I think that we can rule out "scalpers"?

Or am I being Naive here?

My understanding is that scalpers often have tricks to get around that - eg changing 1 letter in an address so that it fools the system to make an order (unless reviewed by a human); but doesn't fool the postal system. Another would be having multiple people living at the same address. So suddenly 30 people all living in the same 2 bedroom flat are ordering the same product. So sometimes throwing something else into the works can break the bots they use (which is the other thing, getting their bots to break so that even if they do scalp, they aren't at least scalping right at the launch and it gives legit people as much time as possible to get an order in.

Yep that is correct, they will use various tricks, I am sure that either they put up that warning to annoy scalpers or they did so by mistake.
But lets be honest here, nobody would be entirely annoyed about having to buy 1 paint or 1 brush for a few pounds.

Gorion_Rex wrote:

But lets be honest here, nobody would be entirely annoyed about having to buy 1 paint or 1 brush for a few pounds.

It's not the worst thing in the word, but somewhat bad form not to announce it up-front, and even worse to hide the necessity behind the box being 'dangerous'. In their announcment, GW could simply have told everyone that each box requires an additional purchase, yet they did not. Given the quick sell-out time, I wonder how mnay people missed out on a purchase while they quickly looked for something else to add to their cart.

Got my AoS supply drop in NZ.

Daughters of Khaine Vanguard box
Fyreslayers Vanguard box

Tygre wrote:
Got my AoS supply drop in NZ.

Daughters of Khaine Vanguard box
Fyreslayers Vanguard box

That actually seems decent enough as well. Basically 2 for 1.
I still like the Aelves drop more and it has been confirmed that the EU box is the same as the UK one.