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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/17 09:36:58
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Dominating Dominatrix
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A box of good looking elves would be great for many solo/mini agnostic games out there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/17 16:15:07
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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lord_blackfang wrote:I'm not a High Elf guy but I know a couple people who'd be ecstatic over a good plastic range.
This guy right here sure would.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/18 01:03:03
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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2nd Lieutenant
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Sgt. Cortez wrote: Gallahad wrote:Sgt. Cortez wrote:
The lotr line has a nice plastic wood elves kit and palace guard. Unfortunately the lotr plastic high elves are about 22 years old at this point. And other stuff is failcast...
Yeah, that line is very much 25mm, and as such I find it very unpleasant to paint. I have a wide variety of figures, but the bulk are closer to 32mm tall, which is the scale I prefer to interact with.
Interesting enough, a friend of mine who collects truescale dwarfs, more often than not he has a limited freedom of choice because most miniatures are heroic scale miniatures with strange proportions when he just wants resonable looking dwarfs
But I'd also say calling the Hobbit miniatures 25mm is a stretch. Lotr always was marketed as 28mm truescale and most Hobbit miniatures are rather 30mm already. It's GW/ AoS going rampant and closing in on 35mm heroic scale...
The issue with LotR is that it didn't have a consistent scale within the range. The high elf swordsman are 25mm, but they were the first plastics to come out. Metals were more 28mm in general, though the old metal rangers of gondor were a bit large. But the majority of the metals fit with the Perry's and other similar sized historicals. My general preference is for things that fit in with that scale, at least for fantasy, as basically all the bases are covered in that scale now. For sci-fi it's definitely better to keep in GWs scaling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/18 05:19:42
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Oh man do I disagree. Why make fantasy figures scaled to match historical minis when that space is so extensively covered?
There is already the whole Middle Earth line, the Oathmark line, and the Mantic line all scaled to work with historical miniatures.
Outside of GWs "weird for the sake of novelty" cow elves there are zero lines out there which would look good alongside modern fantasy miniatures like ASOIAF or Reaper or other GW lines, etc. etc.
Imagine how noble a line of tall elves could look on the table.... Like the 6th edition WHF artwork brought to life.
Of all the fantasy races elves would be the easiest to justify standing taller than (28mm) men!
But despite my protestations I'm sure we will get another set of "scaled for historical" elves out of WGA which will be a shame.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/18 06:55:18
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Foxy Wildborne
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If it's an army range it should probably be scaled to T9A, WHFB and Kings of War since that's where the majority will go.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/18 11:26:24
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Gallahad wrote:
There is already the whole Middle Earth line, the Oathmark line, and the Mantic line all scaled to work with historical miniatures.
Mantic is now scaled with GW and Fireforge rather than historicals. Oathmark/Frostgrave minis, which are historicals scale, are usually half or a whole head smaller than for example Fireforge fantasy or even their modern historicals, where Mantic fits with them easily.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/18 13:19:52
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Been Around the Block
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Has there been any chatter about WGA putting out full fantasy armies? The last thing I can recall being teased or discussed was something about traditional fantasy heroes/characters, and technically there's nothing in that sketch that exclusively suggests anything aside from "wizard". Would love to be wrong!
Edit: https://www.beastsofwar.com/fantasy-wargaming/wargames-atlantic-scout-out-some-elves/ here's some renders from awhile ago (2019!) of a passively-generic Wood Elf archer that never came to fruition (I think a community manager might have said there was some legal mumbo-jumbo tying up the designs?). Would be really awesome to see WGA re-visit all of this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/18 16:31:27
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Shadow Walker wrote: Gallahad wrote:
There is already the whole Middle Earth line, the Oathmark line, and the Mantic line all scaled to work with historical miniatures.
Mantic is now scaled with GW and Fireforge rather than historicals. Oathmark/Frostgrave minis, which are historicals scale, are usually half or a whole head smaller than for example Fireforge fantasy or even their modern historicals, where Mantic fits with them easily.
Did Mantic redo their elves to a taller scale?
I don't think Fireforge has an elf line?
I might be misreading your comment, but I think we agree that there are currently zero modern fantasy scaled lines of elves outside of GW?
On a second reading I think you are talking about their general ranges while I'm talking about Elves in particular.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/19 07:13:15
Subject: Re:Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Dakka Veteran
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WGA has said they will announce the release date after the holidays…
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Rick, the Grumpy Gnome
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/19 14:17:31
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Gallahad wrote:
On a second reading I think you are talking about their general ranges while I'm talking about Elves in particular.
Yep
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/20 02:59:12
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That free shipping ad portion of the Quar announcement had me thinking $50 price tag for a second. Really hoping they keep prices with expectations that WGA has set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/22 18:46:01
Subject: Re:Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Dominating Dominatrix
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New SP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/23 02:54:55
Subject: Re:Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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So some kind of female mage. Maybe Elven? There were some Elf previews, those rangers/archers IIRC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/23 05:28:00
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Foxy Wildborne
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It looks very weighted down by (stone?) knick-knacks for an Elf.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/26 10:25:23
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I wonder it it's part of an adventurers set ? rather than an elf (or an elf unit)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2023/12/26 12:36:23
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Dominating Dominatrix
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I did ask for such a set (multiple options/builds) so maybe they did listen? Would be great!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/01/01 16:21:28
Subject: Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023
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Otiose in a Niche
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And it's time to close the 2023 thread
Perhaps WGA can launch a 2024 thread, I'd still recommend a split between digital and hard plastic products
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