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AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Interior of that Warhound model is not sculpted for purposes of containing the crew.

Sure, but look at the sizes still makes it a tricky one.

The picture with 3 pilots abreast is the Reaver, the Warhound seats 2 side by side with not a lot of spare room, once you account for the proportionally thicker cockpit walls on the Epic scale one, I think it'd fit some 8mm humans in roughly the same layout as the 40k one.

Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

People would have to squeeze and contort past, but that is pretty realistic for the cockpit of a multi-crew combat vehicle.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Interior of that Warhound model is not sculpted for purposes of containing the crew.

Sure, but look at the sizes still makes it a tricky one.

The picture with 3 pilots abreast is the Reaver, the Warhound seats 2 side by side with not a lot of spare room, once you account for the proportionally thicker cockpit walls on the Epic scale one, I think it'd fit some 8mm humans in roughly the same layout as the 40k one.

Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

People would have to squeeze and contort past, but that is pretty realistic for the cockpit of a multi-crew combat vehicle.

Yeah, look at modern-day fighter jets or tanks, there's not exactly a ballroom and a tea kitchen in there, you're in luck if you can pour yourself into your seat without going around 90-degree bends in a specific way. And that's before you 40k-ify things, for the mechanicum lopping of the extremities of any given body to fit it into some sort of sacred niche is a completely viable solution to a space problem.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Ignoring the scale thing: are those Charonite Ogryns entirely new? Or is this just the first time we’ve seen them zoomed in lie that?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:
The two Leman Russ's they said are in plastic are actually resin FW pieces...

Well they did say they think they are plastic

They also called the Stormblade a Shadowsword.

Nah, that’s just what the shadow sword looked like back then, I’m pretty sure. It’s got the same elongated barrel in the fixed mount with the midpoint support/stabiliser.

Nope Mad Doc is right. I have all those tanks, The Stormblade is the Plasma Blast gun version of a Shadowsword, with extra missles for when it had to recharge.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Interior of that Warhound model is not sculpted for purposes of containing the crew.

Sure, but look at the sizes still makes it a tricky one.

The picture with 3 pilots abreast is the Reaver, the Warhound seats 2 side by side with not a lot of spare room, once you account for the proportionally thicker cockpit walls on the Epic scale one, I think it'd fit some 8mm humans in roughly the same layout as the 40k one.

Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

People would have to squeeze and contort past, but that is pretty realistic for the cockpit of a multi-crew combat vehicle.

Yeah, look at modern-day fighter jets or tanks, there's not exactly a ballroom and a tea kitchen in there, you're in luck if you can pour yourself into your seat without going around 90-degree bends in a specific way. And that's before you 40k-ify things, for the mechanicum lopping of the extremities of any given body to fit it into some sort of sacred niche is a completely viable solution to a space problem.

Uh huh. Skitarii have detachable legs for a reason. There’s probably a sign by the hatch “please remember to leave your feet by the door.”

Tsagualsa wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:

 Crimson wrote:
Interior of that Warhound model is not sculpted for purposes of containing the crew.

Sure, but look at the sizes still makes it a tricky one.

The picture with 3 pilots abreast is the Reaver, the Warhound seats 2 side by side with not a lot of spare room, once you account for the proportionally thicker cockpit walls on the Epic scale one, I think it'd fit some 8mm humans in roughly the same layout as the 40k one.

Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

People would have to squeeze and contort past, but that is pretty realistic for the cockpit of a multi-crew combat vehicle.

Yeah, look at modern-day fighter jets or tanks, there's not exactly a ballroom and a tea kitchen in there, you're in luck if you can pour yourself into your seat without going around 90-degree bends in a specific way. And that's before you 40k-ify things, for the mechanicum lopping of the extremities of any given body to fit it into some sort of sacred niche is a completely viable solution to a space problem.

Just watch some of the Chieftain videos of him trying to squeeze into tanks.....its not the easiest thing.

Perhaps so, but do note that it’s very likely that the new LI scaled crew would probably be 1 or 2 millimetres taller than the fellow Ive posted

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

Spoiler:

I imagine the Princeps' throne slots in like something out of Thunderbirds.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

Spoiler:

I imagine the Princeps' throne slots in like something out of Thunderbirds.

Something like that pompous would actually make sense for the Imperium.

 Breotan wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

Spoiler:

I imagine the Princeps' throne slots in like something out of Thunderbirds.

Something like that pompous would actually make sense for the Imperium.

Well, we know that inserting the "throne" is done for knights (from the Codexes), would make sense to do similar for the titans, especially since the heads can also act as ejection pods.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:


Anyway, is it just me or is the pace of LI articles picking up? Like I wouldn’t be that surprised anymore if the preorder date was the fifth of August, now.

I wouldn't expect the 5th as we still don't know anything about how it actually plays but the 12th is possible

5th will probably be the Cerastus knight with that article yesterday together with some smaller stuff,
12th for LI launch box and other stuff
19th could be the AoS Cities launch box
26th the rest of the LI stuff
with the 2nd of September for SM/Tyranid codex
at least that's my prediction

That’s what I meant; rules articles next week, preorder on the fifth, delivery on the twelfth. The Cerastus doesn’t need that bull-up because its rules are already available for both systems, so it could go on preorder tomorrow to arrive on the fifth.

I meant preorder on the 12th. I meant the dates as preorder dates not release dates
The Cerastus cant go on preorder tomorrow as they show the preorders for the coming week on Sunday so we know tomorrow will be Warcry stuff

Tsagualsa wrote:
Yeah, look at modern-day fighter jets or tanks, there's not exactly a ballroom and a tea kitchen in there, you're in luck if you can pour yourself into your seat without going around 90-degree bends in a specific way. And that's before you 40k-ify things, for the mechanicum lopping of the extremities of any given body to fit it into some sort of sacred niche is a completely viable solution to a space problem.

Yep. Combat vehicles aren't civilian luxury cars, and even civilian aircraft often require you to do a human pretzel act to crawl into the seat. The 28mm Warhound might be very slightly too narrow around the commander's seat but not by more than 1-2mm. The real scale issue is that the floor underneath the seats for the other two crew isn't quite deep enough to hold the legs (the figures are sculpted as torso only) but again, not by very much and it's probably more a case of sculptor error than the model not being to-scale with the crew.

 Stormonu wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Where the princeps sits there isn't enough room for someone to walk around his chair.

Spoiler:

I imagine the Princeps' throne slots in like something out of Thunderbirds.

Something like that pompous would actually make sense for the Imperium.

Well, we know that inserting the "throne" is done for knights (from the Codexes), would make sense to do similar for the titans, especially since the heads can also act as ejection pods.

Oh yeah, I was rereading the description for Knights and they really do go full Tracey Island on them, don’t they?

And yeah, I don’t see why the Warhound cockpit couldn’t be entered from the top; just imagine that Titan hangars have a specialised crane that lifts the upper armour, which separates much like the actual model does, and there’s a crew gantry that swings out, kind of like the boarding tube for a plane.

For the figure scale to cockpit size debate keep in mind that as the scale gets smaller human miniatures get dis-proportionately thicker then they would be in "real life", as in their height is correct but the diameter of there limbs and torso and such is to big, limitation of material and style choice to an extent

lurch wrote:
For the figure scale to cockpit size debate keep in mind that as the scale gets smaller human miniatures get dis-proportionately thicker then they would be in "real life", as in their height is correct but the diameter of there limbs and torso and such is to big, limitation of material and style choice to an extent

Also the features on the vehicle get deeper so that they are more prominent, meaning crew space gets lost. For example, on the Warhound, the ear-grate-thingos are set deeper in to the model and the grooves in the vent are deeper... that cuts into the crew space.

The August in-store coin popped up on ebay and its Legions Imperialis. That by itself isn't a surprise as we knew its coming in August from the beginning but it reminded me that the monthly free miniature might also be from LI. Maybe a solo Contemptor? And if thats the case they should soon reveal when we can get the mini which in turn tells us when LI will release

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:
Yeah, look at modern-day fighter jets or tanks, there's not exactly a ballroom and a tea kitchen in there, you're in luck if you can pour yourself into your seat without going around 90-degree bends in a specific way. And that's before you 40k-ify things, for the mechanicum lopping of the extremities of any given body to fit it into some sort of sacred niche is a completely viable solution to a space problem.

Yep. Combat vehicles aren't civilian luxury cars, and even civilian aircraft often require you to do a human pretzel act to crawl into the seat. The 28mm Warhound might be very slightly too narrow around the commander's seat but not by more than 1-2mm. The real scale issue is that the floor underneath the seats for the other two crew isn't quite deep enough to hold the legs (the figures are sculpted as torso only) but again, not by very much and it's probably more a case of sculptor error than the model not being to-scale with the crew.

I'll just leave this here ^^

 Matrindur wrote:
The August in-store coin popped up on ebay and its Legions Imperialis. That by itself isn't a surprise as we knew its coming in August from the beginning but it reminded me that the monthly free miniature might also be from LI. Maybe a solo Contemptor? And if thats the case they should soon reveal when we can get the mini which in turn tells us when LI will release

Spoiler:

Model and coin aren't always tied together. I would expect it to be a Cities of Sigmar model if I'm being honest.

I'd expect a free Cities of Sigmar model to wait until the full release in Sept/Oct, they're normally linked to a codex or battletome.

A free LI model is most likely to be a rhino, as the store can just split up the boxes of ten similar models and hand them out.

 xttz wrote:
I'd expect a free Cities of Sigmar model to wait until the full release in Sept/Oct, they're normally linked to a codex or battletome.

A free LI model is most likely to be a rhino, as the store can just split up the boxes of ten similar models and hand them out.

I will have a warlord titan thanks.

 xttz wrote:
I'd expect a free Cities of Sigmar model to wait until the full release in Sept/Oct, they're normally linked to a codex or battletome.

A free LI model is most likely to be a rhino, as the store can just split up the boxes of ten similar models and hand them out.

The free models come on specific character sized sprues, not an existing kit parted out. If it is LI, I expect a predator or lemon russ on an individual sprue with a fixed weapon loadout.

If it is a free LI model, I will again be impressed that SG/FW have found the resources to make yet another new sprue for such a niche/time limited purpose. It already seems like the resources they’re pumping into this game at launch is greater than other SG games in recent history.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 xttz wrote:
I'd expect a free Cities of Sigmar model to wait until the full release in Sept/Oct, they're normally linked to a codex or battletome.

A free LI model is most likely to be a rhino, as the store can just split up the boxes of ten similar models and hand them out.

The free models come on specific character sized sprues, not an existing kit parted out. If it is LI, I expect a predator or lemon russ on an individual sprue with a fixed weapon loadout.

Not always, the assault intercessor of March for example was parted out form the full kit.
As far as I saw until now its 50/50 whether it gets a new sprue or is just an existing kit parted out

Looks like I am likely going to GenCon for just the Sunday. But assuming GW is there, I will see if they are demoing LI. I really hope so.


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WTF? GW does not appear to even have a booth at GenCon this year. Wow, what a let down.


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Never mind, it is under Warhammer not Games Workshop. At it is pretty big. Hoping for LI demos!

 vadersson wrote:

Never mind, it is under Warhammer not Games Workshop. At it is pretty big. Hoping for LI demos!

Sadly there is no way we are getting demos before they actually tell us anything about the rules

 Matrindur wrote:

 vadersson wrote:

Never mind, it is under Warhammer not Games Workshop. At it is pretty big. Hoping for LI demos!

Sadly there is no way we are getting demos before they actually tell us anything about the rules

We could get rules articles this coming week with an announcement of demos or something at GenCon.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
The August in-store coin popped up on ebay and its Legions Imperialis. That by itself isn't a surprise as we knew its coming in August from the beginning but it reminded me that the monthly free miniature might also be from LI. Maybe a solo Contemptor? And if thats the case they should soon reveal when we can get the mini which in turn tells us when LI will release

Spoiler:

Model and coin aren't always tied together. I would expect it to be a Cities of Sigmar model if I'm being honest.

Or WarCry, or some 30k HH Space Marine, or pretty much anything. Having it be a vehicle (even an Epic scale one) would be a dramatic change for them.

I wonder what:

Having the dozer blades on the Kratos does for it? That thing is huge!

Having mixed varrients in the same unit does?

 Matrindur wrote:

 vadersson wrote:

Never mind, it is under Warhammer not Games Workshop. At it is pretty big. Hoping for LI demos!

Sadly there is no way we are getting demos before they actually tell us anything about the rules

Sadly, we won't get any full looks at the rules till after the fomo buying period is over. Pig in a poke and fomo is GW's way.

Did we not have the full ruleset available for free for the new 40k edition before it was released?

After a week or so of articles previewing all the different rules?

But this was after the pdf was already leaked and I doubt there will be a free pdf for LI