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155€ isnt terribly pricy but I'd rather spend that cash only on Marines to be honest. Prices of individual releases are missing, so no way to gauge how good a value this box is presenting.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was something daft again, like it being cheaper to buy the box for the rules and only one of the armies (even without the Warhounds) than just buying rules and models separately. Yawn

 tauist wrote:
155€ isnt terribly pricy but I'd rather spend that cash only on Marines to be honest. Prices of individual releases are missing, so no way to gauge how good a value this box is presenting.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was something daft again, like it being cheaper to buy the box for the rules and only one of the armies (even without the Warhounds) than just buying rules and models separately. Yawn

If they take a leaf from AI's book, they'll make it so it's a coin toss as to whether it's better to buy separately or buy the starter... I really hope they don't do that

But I'm going to guess the starter set will cost as much as the value of the infantry and tanks separately.... and the rules + warhounds are effectively thrown in for free.

That's not daft, that's basic marketing. Like it's just bog standard common in all consumer industries

stratigo wrote:
That's not daft, that's basic marketing. Like it's just bog standard common in all consumer industries

That sounds swell and all, but I reckon LI will sell out during its first 24 hours of preorders going live, and I would have to lend money in order to secure my copy within that time (payday coming later in the month but before release date). So, I can look forward to paying more for less, unless I manage to get lucky with one of my LGS's on release day

Wonderful

Price sounds too rich imo. Same price as adeptus astartes battlegroup but only a fraction of the plastic.

And the rule book. And the counters. And dice.

Okay this might be new. Complain about discount being too good...

If you know you get money later in month it shouldn't be problem anyway in Finland,

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
And the rule book. And the counters. And dice.

GW should be paying me for all the dice they're dumping on me. Running out of places to put them and things to do with them.

The rulebook... eh. Diminishing returns if buying multiple copies.

Templates and counters likewise.

This isn't intended to be bought in multiples

why?
almost all of those boxes are meant to bought at least 2 times and shared
this is why you get 2 armies in there

if you just buy it once, you get 2 times half an army

 kodos wrote:
why?
almost all of those boxes are meant to bought at least 2 times and shared
this is why you get 2 armies in there

if you just buy it once, you get 2 times half an army

Swapsies. Find someone who wants the half you don’t want. Job’s a good’un.

Hopefully that is the price. I still expect it to be more.

€155 would be about €140 at my local. I suspect most individual sets to be about €40 each, we are looking at about 4 sets worth for the new models which is about €160. Warhounds and book is 'free'.

I think the queue system and their FOMO sales is going make getting the set the hardest and I don't expect this to be more than a launch set, with a 'starter set' coming later on (with half the models and twice the cost).

I'll probably order from my local stores & direct from GW. I can cancel the GW order if my other order is guaranteed, they never send them out on time anyway. If I really want to cut the cost down further, any rulebooks can be easily passed on to those that love new GW rules but want to 3d print everything.

I suspect the tiles will be €60 or more. That's really what is going to hurt me on this release. I have so much troublemaker terrain and desperately want tiles to fix it all too! (Well, the tiles AND the land raiders. I'm a sucker for cute tiny land raiders!)

I didn't bother buying any of their xmas bundles this year, knowing this was about to be released. This botched release must have really hurt them for sales this year, as well as people holding off for the old world.

I'll be glad when this set is finally out, simply so I can stop holding off from buying other 6mm stuff just in case I wanted to spend even more on this.

I'm looking forward to painting the minis up and can't wait to do some tiny conversions on the marines. Still have no interest in the game itself, but happy to see some really nice plastic tanks for this scale!


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 kodos wrote:
why?
almost all of those boxes are meant to bought at least 2 times and shared
this is why you get 2 armies in there

if you just buy it once, you get 2 times half an army

Swapsies. Find someone who wants the half you don’t want. Job’s a good’un.

I want both armies. I'm going to end up with so many spare warhounds, I might as well commit to making a whole 6'x4' warhound factory table for my inq6 games

On the accuracy of the rumour?

We tend to see rumour prices being in excess of the true RRP. I seem to recall Age of Darkness rumoured to be £225, significantly higher than the £185 it turned out to be.

Do not take this as an argument that “less than rumoured, therefore cheap”. Just in case.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On the accuracy of the rumour?

We tend to see rumour prices being in excess of the true RRP. I seem to recall Age of Darkness rumoured to be £225, significantly higher than the £185 it turned out to be.

Do not take this as an argument that “less than rumoured, therefore cheap”. Just in case.

Too late, I'm holding you personally responsible. If its even a penny more, you'll be hearing from my tiny (6mm) solicitor!

 tauist wrote:
155€ isnt terribly pricy but I'd rather spend that cash only on Marines to be honest. Prices of individual releases are missing, so no way to gauge how good a value this box is presenting.

Wouldn't be surprised if it was something daft again, like it being cheaper to buy the box for the rules and only one of the armies (even without the Warhounds) than just buying rules and models separately. Yawn

Assuming it's equivalent to two £30 boxes per faction, then that £120 price means the warhounds, rulebook, etc are 'free'. That's very a similar discount to the AT starter box, which is why I've been saying for months that this box would land in the £110-125 range. I just hope the starter is a permanent product like it was for HH.

 RexHavoc wrote:
I didn't bother buying any of their xmas bundles this year, knowing this was about to be released. This botched release must have really hurt them for sales this year, as well as people holding off for the old world.

Considering how quickly many of this years releases sold out I highly doubt they're in any way hurting for sales. The xmas boxes that didn't sell due to LI instead sold to someone else 0.02 seconds later

 RexHavoc wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
On the accuracy of the rumour?

We tend to see rumour prices being in excess of the true RRP. I seem to recall Age of Darkness rumoured to be £225, significantly higher than the £185 it turned out to be.

Do not take this as an argument that “less than rumoured, therefore cheap”. Just in case.

Too late, I'm holding you personally responsible. If its even a penny more, you'll be hearing from my tiny (6mm) solicitor!

And I’ll ignore him. I give opinions professionally as a career, and as such I’m genuinely immune to civil prosecution for that

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/11/12/sunday-preview-war-on-an-epic-scale-in-the-age-of-darkness/

It. Is. Time.

I’m in!

Definitely want that Map as well.

And theres the missing infantry sets!

Wellp, now we wait for pricing to figure out if it makes sense to buy as many of the box sets as possible or to buy one + individual nonsense.

Also still waiting on confirmation on whether or not its a limited or stock item.


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oh and they are releasing the AI bases separately for the first time. Removed.

Looks like the core box contents have changed, that pic has four Kratos which weren't included in the July reveal

So armiger are just repackaging, not new plastic. Sadface.

 xttz wrote:
Looks like the core box contents have changed, that pic has four Kratos which weren't included in the July reveal

You're right. Probably because they had to increase the price to cover the additional labor and needed to add some value to the box to justify it. The cool thing is that those are "in addition to" instead of "in place of" from the looks of it.

I'll probs jump in if/when Knights get a standalone list.

I want to do a full House but 28mm is to expensive and I'm not particularly interested in anything else for LI.

You can do a knight household for AT already though?

Tell me they are not doing a limited BL book at the same time as LI's release ? Don't they ever learn ?

Glad to see they decided to make the Black Friday sale deadline. This should help make for a successful launch in the US.

Yep. Looks like this Saturday is going to be expensive for me.

If there's anyone in the US that might want to do a Marine swap for more Solar Auxilia, let me know.

Delayed in Australia and New Zealand, also no sign of the full buildings.

 kodos wrote:
why?
almost all of those boxes are meant to bought at least 2 times and shared
this is why you get 2 armies in there

if you just buy it once, you get 2 times half an army

If you buy 2, share 1 side of models guess there's no issue with 2nd rulebook eh? So then 2nd rulebook isn't limiting value of box


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chaos0xomega wrote:
And theres the missing infantry sets!

Wellp, now we wait for pricing to figure out if it makes sense to buy as many of the box sets as possible or to buy one + individual nonsense.

Also still waiting on confirmation on whether or not its a limited or stock item.


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oh and they are releasing the AI bases separately for the first time. Removed.

Yeah to surprise of nobody infantry came iight away. No way infantry wasn't coming as well.

If prices go as usual 2nd is still value even if you throw rulebook to bin though then better want all models

tneva82 wrote:

 kodos wrote:
why?
almost all of those boxes are meant to bought at least 2 times and shared
this is why you get 2 armies in there

if you just buy it once, you get 2 times half an army

If you buy 2, share 1 side of models guess there's no issue with 2nd rulebook eh? So then 2nd rulebook isn't limiting value of box

if you buy and share, both will end with 1 rulebook and 1 army

but I guess people forgot what "sharing" means and you rather buy 2 yourself, sell of the models and don't know what to do with the 2nd rulebook because you don't play anyway and therefore don't have an opponent who would like to have one too