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You don't print less than 1 book per store on accident.

Yeah, GW knows how many trade accounts it has, and how many stores it has, and how many copies of the core box were sold, etc. There's no conceivable way they didn't have the data needed to figure out what a sane production run would be.

in addition they don't need to print in China and just hope shipping cost and time will stay the same

poor GW being hit by global events and therefore only having 1 book per retailer is possible but unlikely

another possible but unlikely option is that GW uses this intentional to increase FOMO and get people to order directly instead of buying with discount for higher profit

the most likely option is that their warehouse "robot" messed up the distribution again and while there are enough books, retailers got the wrong number assigned/shipped

Do we know what the situation is in relation to what will be exclusive to GW? I assume the models will be available everywhere (numbers permitting), are the cards a GW exclusive? And what about the book? I know some of the HH expansion books have been GW exclusives.

If true, it could be that they had to order their GS books before they had the base game sales figures and went conservative.

IIRC, they had the same issue with early AT releases.

With the book also being available via epub, they may have just gone with the bare minimum print batch to avoid being stuck with too many unsold.

It's also possible some of the stock is delayed on a boat somewhere, and they're just launching with what's to hand right now.

I think the ERP changeover and the issues with the new distribution hub are hitting GW really, really hard. They have no hold over their inventory right now and have nowhere to store stock. It's a giant mess, which most people knew it would be, that they are really struggling with and will probably have to spend a LOT of money to fix, because they hired completely the wrong people for the job initially.....

 xttz wrote:


It's also possible some of the stock is delayed on a boat somewhere, and they're just launching with what's to hand right now.

Somewhere some Yemini pirates are playing a heck of a game of Legions Imperialis!

has any ERP system change/install ever actually gone as planned? I mean anywhere?

have worked at a few places that have brought these systems in or had some bright spark sell them on a change to another system and have yet to see any actually work


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
You don't print less than 1 book per store on accident.

given the number of core sets shifted it appears GW have assumed that two players each bought about 75 copies each

depends on the planning and how pessimistic the board was about the ERP change

 kodos wrote:
depends on the planning and how pessimistic the board was about the ERP change

yes thats the trouble, they always assume it will go exactly as the sales-weasel said it would, and the demo systems they saw were never plain installations but had years of customisations applied

anyway, hopefully more copies of this will, eventually, arrive, otherwise the games going to die a death around here - likely faster if the two who did manage to get it (I think only one of which is actually a local player) start using stuff no one else has access to

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Somewhere some Yemini pirates are playing a heck of a game of Legions Imperialis!

Probably with all of the Thunderhawks I can't get!

leopard wrote:
has any ERP system change/install ever actually gone as planned? I mean anywhere?

have worked at a few places that have brought these systems in or had some bright spark sell them on a change to another system and have yet to see any actually work

The first ERP launch I worked on was a mess. Very much over-promised and under-delivered, we spent months dealing with issues before eventually discovering that the longer term plans to bring more locations onboard simply wouldn't work because of some fundamental design flaws from the consultants.

Two years later we ended up doing an expensive re-implemementation with new consultants who were more honest about what the system could do. We were much more careful with deciding what functions were "must have" for day one versus "want to have" later, and did more of the preparation and testing work internally. It went so much better and since then all the other planned locations were added (largely) quite smoothly.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 xttz wrote:


It's also possible some of the stock is delayed on a boat somewhere, and they're just launching with what's to hand right now.

Somewhere some Yemini pirates are playing a heck of a game of Legions Imperialis!

It's strange ken, when I comment on that it gets deleted.


Does anyone know what time the digital version of the great slaughter goes up for sale online?

What I also noticed, the Reaver, the Warlord and the Marauder Bomber have each two Sets, with one of each is "Online Only" but have a Box Art for Retail.

This is making my Epic Warpath Kickstarter pledge easier and easier...

I WANT to be playing a slightly modernized, version of GW Epic... they literally had to do almost nothing for me to spend endless money. Somehow every single decision they have made has been a bad one.

Come on GW, it cannot be this hard to make more sensible decisions, about everything from limiting your game to a niche setting, production flubs, inventory issues, cryptic game rules writing (for a game that already had several EXCELLENT rule sets), fiddly models, etc...

Australia left out in the cold again - Legions Imperialis Products that are meant to be going up for Pre-Order this Saturday 17/02/2024 for Release on Saturday 02/03/2024 have been delayed with no date being announced. This supply issue is getting riduculous.

 sarduka42 wrote:
Australia left out in the cold again - Legions Imperialis Products that are meant to be going up for Pre-Order this Saturday 17/02/2024 for Release on Saturday 02/03/2024 have been delayed with no date being announced. This supply issue is getting riduculous.

Maybe get onto your politicians to send a task force to the Red Sea!

MaxT wrote:

 sarduka42 wrote:
Australia left out in the cold again - Legions Imperialis Products that are meant to be going up for Pre-Order this Saturday 17/02/2024 for Release on Saturday 02/03/2024 have been delayed with no date being announced. This supply issue is getting riduculous.

Maybe get onto your politicians to send a task force to the Red Sea!

to Nottingham...

 sarduka42 wrote:
Australia left out in the cold again - Legions Imperialis Products that are meant to be going up for Pre-Order this Saturday 17/02/2024 for Release on Saturday 02/03/2024 have been delayed with no date being announced. This supply issue is getting riduculous.

I’m guessing issues with shipping, due to the location of the Suez Canal.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 sarduka42 wrote:
Australia left out in the cold again - Legions Imperialis Products that are meant to be going up for Pre-Order this Saturday 17/02/2024 for Release on Saturday 02/03/2024 have been delayed with no date being announced. This supply issue is getting riduculous.

I’m guessing issues with shipping, due to the location of the Suez Canal.

its terrible how the issue of stuff manufactured in Nottingham can't get to shops in Barnsley due to the Suez Canal thing

their ERP system is really screwed

Didn’t realise Barnsley is in Australia?

 sarduka42 wrote:
Australia left out in the cold again - Legions Imperialis Products that are meant to be going up for Pre-Order this Saturday 17/02/2024 for Release on Saturday 02/03/2024 have been delayed with no date being announced. This supply issue is getting riduculous.

Yeah wtf? I just saw that on GapGames?

Also when do preorders go live over here now?? It used to be 12, then it swapped to 1, but Gap seemed to release them earlier than that? They're still not live on TCC or other sites.

You'd think if they're going to do these releases where you need to be refreshing the store at the moment it drops to actually get the products, they'd let us know a tiny bit in advance so people don't waste an hour on a Saturday and not even get a chance to order it.

Stuff is up on the Japan store, some new infos:

The card pack contains

– 2x Legiones Astartes Formation Cards (Drop Pod and Fast Attack)
– 10x Legiones Astartes Detachment Datasheet Cards
– 3x Solar Auxilia Formation Cards
– 7x Solar Auxilia Detachment Datasheet Cards

The SM cards should be the 4 types of Drop Pods, 4 units in the fast attack box, Spartans and Proteus Land Raiders which is 10 different units and would be everything currently revealed

The SA should be Cyclops, Valdor and Infernus, Stormhammer, Dracosan and Basilisk/Medusa. Its either Basilisk and Medusa each have their own cards which would be 7 or they are just a weapon swap and the Arvus gets a new card since the plastic models have that new bit that looks like a gun. No matter which one it is it would again be everything currently revealed.

Now to wait for the reviews in a few hours to see what the rules actually are. I'm really surprised they never did an article about the new formations and units, just the one about titans. For SM we at least know the formations already through the WD battlereport but no idea what the 3 SA could be, except one is probably an aerial assault of some kind.

Sprue pics:

ITS UP

got my cards and one support box

Here is my review of the new Legion Imperialis Support kits (with high-res sprue pics): https://taleofpainters.com/2024/02/short-review-legions-imperialis-legiones-astartes-solar-auxilia-support/

Unfortunately, the boxes don't have any spare weapons, so only build what is listed on the box. More in my review.

Cards were sold out on UK GW at 9:55. Disappeared just as I clicked order...

Ordered the book from GW directly. Models I’ll be sourcing from my friend’s FLGS.


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And two sets of Support from Element. Becuase £24 a box is decent.

The book and cards actually appeared on the UK pre-orders page at 9.37am - I managed to bag mine and be checked out more than 20 mins before they were supposed to be on sale.....

Not at all fussed for the cards myself, but GW needs to sort that out.

 zedmeister wrote:
Cards were sold out on UK GW at 9:55. Disappeared just as I clicked order...

Same here. Logged at 10:54, put them in my basket together with the book and 2 pots of paint that I had prepared beforehand to get free shipping, noticed that my adress had disappeared from the 14 millions website database again, reentered it, tried to pay with Paypal (on which I had pre-authentified to save time), and by the time I clicked order, I was sent back to my cart with the cards removed. Unbelievable.

I'm fuming right now, but this may be the last thing I needed to get myself off that FOMO crap. I could probably use a lower blood pressure every Saturday morning or so.