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Sent the following to GW customer service. Intrigued to see if I get a sensible response.
Hello,
I was very excited about the upcoming Kill Team: Ashes of Faith pre-order today, and I was ready to purchase the box first thing.
Unfortunately, by 10:00am today (when pre-orders are supposed to go live), the box was already sold out. As you can imagine, this was very disappointing. To rub salt in the wound, I received a promotional email advertising the box was available to pre-order ten minutes after it was already unavailable.
Further to this, the box set is already being resold on eBay for at least twice the price.
I am aware a similar thing occurred for the last Kill Team box.
As you can see, there is clearly huge demand for these boxsets, that far outstrips supply. It is causing a lot of bad will within the community and driving down interest in the wider kill team game. From my own perspective, that is £95 Games Workshop will not be getting from me this month, and not for lack of trying. Despite being a loyal customer of Games Workshop for 16 years, this is encouraging me to spend my money with other companies where I can actually obtain the product I want.
During the height of the pandemic, on some releases Games Workshop would honour out-of-stock pre-orders through the made-to-order process. I think the majority of customers would be happy to wait for a guaranteed box several weeks or months down the line rather than missing out now. This seems like an obvious solution to me.
In what way is Games Workshop planning to address this issue that is clear to their customers?
Looking forward to your response,
Name removed
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
grouch666 wrote: GW Must be planning both 10th Edition and Old World release this year to have such poor allocations of these boxes.
It does not make any sense otherwise!
I can't speak for other KIll Team boxed set releases (Ashes of Faith is the first one I've actually wanted to buy) but you can buy most of the models in the set separately. The only ones you can't currently buy are the Inquisitorial Agents, which we know will be sold on their own at some point. So GW have drummed up interest in these models now, selling them at a cheap price, so that anyone who missed out can buy them separately later on (at a much higher price).
This box also comes with a campaign book and other accessories. It would make sense to sell these separately too later on, if not then only the limited number of people who managed to get the box will actually be able to play the campaign. I don't know if GW will sell them separately, they're missing a trick if not.
And yes, GW has limited production capacity and a lot of it is currently being used to ramp up for 10th Edition. I don't know if Old World will require the same amount of capacity but that might be a factor too.
Well, we all have a problem with orders at the moment that is bigger than scalpers inside the hobby.
They are coming from outside of the hobby, including targetted ads to tell people what to buy and when. Looking at eBay this is confirmed. The only GW item they have for sale is ashes of faith, whilst the rest are exclusive Nikes, sportwear etc
There people are using bots to purchase, guaranteed. Until GW decides to actually do something to deter it, such as made to orders (which again, I would have happily done for this as I doubt I’ll build them for months anyway) this will keep occurring.
GW should actually put an article up saying please do not but from
eBay and start a reporting process. They may not be able to blacklist all bots, but they can surely blacklist addresses, and ask suppliers to honour those addresses.
It may not make it impossible for resellers to still disturb our hobby, but it will make it difficult at least.
And well, soon GW will lose customers over this, nothing kills a seller/customer relationship like apathy.
Anyway, the origional plan is being actioned by me, I’ll kitbash a team.
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grouch666 wrote: GW Must be planning both 10th Edition and Old World release this year to have such poor allocations of these boxes.
It does not make any sense otherwise!
I can't speak for other KIll Team boxed set releases (Ashes of Faith is the first one I've actually wanted to buy) but you can buy most of the models in the set separately. The only ones you can't currently buy are the Inquisitorial Agents, which we know will be sold on their own at some point. So GW have drummed up interest in these models now, selling them at a cheap price, so that anyone who missed out can buy them separately later on (at a much higher price).
This box also comes with a campaign book and other accessories. It would make sense to sell these separately too later on, if not then only the limited number of people who managed to get the box will actually be able to play the campaign. I don't know if GW will sell them separately, they're missing a trick if not.
And yes, GW has limited production capacity and a lot of it is currently being used to ramp up for 10th Edition. I don't know if Old World will require the same amount of capacity but that might be a factor too.
This is obviously profitable now, but will it hurt sales in the long run? I suspect so. My personal hobby budget is very limited currently, so missing out on sets like this means GW gets no money from me at all. I am sure I am not the only one.
Maybe catering primarily to whales is sufficient to sustain growth (as the folks who are able to sustain the scalpers, or more likely to buy everything at separately). We will probably find out in coming years.
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
Haighus wrote: Sent the following to GW customer service. Intrigued to see if I get a sensible response.
Hello,
I was very excited about the upcoming Kill Team: Ashes of Faith pre-order today, and I was ready to purchase the box first thing.
Unfortunately, by 10:00am today (when pre-orders are supposed to go live), the box was already sold out. As you can imagine, this was very disappointing. To rub salt in the wound, I received a promotional email advertising the box was available to pre-order ten minutes after it was already unavailable.
Further to this, the box set is already being resold on eBay for at least twice the price.
I am aware a similar thing occurred for the last Kill Team box.
As you can see, there is clearly huge demand for these boxsets, that far outstrips supply. It is causing a lot of bad will within the community and driving down interest in the wider kill team game. From my own perspective, that is £95 Games Workshop will not be getting from me this month, and not for lack of trying. Despite being a loyal customer of Games Workshop for 16 years, this is encouraging me to spend my money with other companies where I can actually obtain the product I want.
During the height of the pandemic, on some releases Games Workshop would honour out-of-stock pre-orders through the made-to-order process. I think the majority of customers would be happy to wait for a guaranteed box several weeks or months down the line rather than missing out now. This seems like an obvious solution to me.
In what way is Games Workshop planning to address this issue that is clear to their customers?
Looking forward to your response,
Name removed
Tried on lots of occasions. The response I always get is "go down to your local GW on release day".
Currently most played: Silent Death, Mars Code Aurora, Battletech, Warcrow and Infinity.
Haighus wrote: Sent the following to GW customer service. Intrigued to see if I get a sensible response.
Hello,
I was very excited about the upcoming Kill Team: Ashes of Faith pre-order today, and I was ready to purchase the box first thing.
Unfortunately, by 10:00am today (when pre-orders are supposed to go live), the box was already sold out. As you can imagine, this was very disappointing. To rub salt in the wound, I received a promotional email advertising the box was available to pre-order ten minutes after it was already unavailable.
Further to this, the box set is already being resold on eBay for at least twice the price.
I am aware a similar thing occurred for the last Kill Team box.
As you can see, there is clearly huge demand for these boxsets, that far outstrips supply. It is causing a lot of bad will within the community and driving down interest in the wider kill team game. From my own perspective, that is £95 Games Workshop will not be getting from me this month, and not for lack of trying. Despite being a loyal customer of Games Workshop for 16 years, this is encouraging me to spend my money with other companies where I can actually obtain the product I want.
During the height of the pandemic, on some releases Games Workshop would honour out-of-stock pre-orders through the made-to-order process. I think the majority of customers would be happy to wait for a guaranteed box several weeks or months down the line rather than missing out now. This seems like an obvious solution to me.
In what way is Games Workshop planning to address this issue that is clear to their customers?
Looking forward to your response,
Name removed
Tried on lots of occasions. The response I always get is "go down to your local GW on release day".
For those who do regularly frequent their FLGWS on new release day, how does their stock generally go? Do they only have a couple of copies of new stuff, or do they carry enough to last beyond the opening ten minutes?
grouch666 wrote: GW Must be planning both 10th Edition and Old World release this year to have such poor allocations of these boxes.
It does not make any sense otherwise!
I can't speak for other KIll Team boxed set releases (Ashes of Faith is the first one I've actually wanted to buy) but you can buy most of the models in the set separately. The only ones you can't currently buy are the Inquisitorial Agents, which we know will be sold on their own at some point. So GW have drummed up interest in these models now, selling them at a cheap price, so that anyone who missed out can buy them separately later on (at a much higher price).
This box also comes with a campaign book and other accessories. It would make sense to sell these separately too later on, if not then only the limited number of people who managed to get the box will actually be able to play the campaign. I don't know if GW will sell them separately, they're missing a trick if not.
And yes, GW has limited production capacity and a lot of it is currently being used to ramp up for 10th Edition. I don't know if Old World will require the same amount of capacity but that might be a factor too.
This is obviously profitable now, but will it hurt sales in the long run? I suspect so. My personal hobby budget is very limited currently, so missing out on sets like this means GW gets no money from me at all. I am sure I am not the only one.
Maybe catering primarily to whales is sufficient to sustain growth (as the folks who are able to sustain the scalpers, or more likely to buy everything at separately). We will probably find out in coming years.
GW's biggest issue (and it has been this way for years) is not having enough production capacity to keep up with demand. Which is why it's puzzling that they release these boxed sets at all. We all have a price we're not willing to pay. I suspect though that if Ashes of Faith had a retail price of say £120 instead of £95 it still would have sold out. It might have taken a few more minutes but based on how fast it went I think GW would have had no problem shifting the stock.
Until either GW's products become less popular or they expand their production capacity to a point that is higher than demand they can continue to make odd decisions like this and still have huge profits.
For now I think GW aren't too concerned about the people who find the hobby / individual purchases too expensive. Many would argue it's been that way for decades. How much longer this will last for is anyone's guess.
grouch666 wrote: GW Must be planning both 10th Edition and Old World release this year to have such poor allocations of these boxes.
It does not make any sense otherwise!
I can't speak for other KIll Team boxed set releases (Ashes of Faith is the first one I've actually wanted to buy) but you can buy most of the models in the set separately. The only ones you can't currently buy are the Inquisitorial Agents, which we know will be sold on their own at some point. So GW have drummed up interest in these models now, selling them at a cheap price, so that anyone who missed out can buy them separately later on (at a much higher price).
This box also comes with a campaign book and other accessories. It would make sense to sell these separately too later on, if not then only the limited number of people who managed to get the box will actually be able to play the campaign. I don't know if GW will sell them separately, they're missing a trick if not.
And yes, GW has limited production capacity and a lot of it is currently being used to ramp up for 10th Edition. I don't know if Old World will require the same amount of capacity but that might be a factor too.
This is obviously profitable now, but will it hurt sales in the long run? I suspect so. My personal hobby budget is very limited currently, so missing out on sets like this means GW gets no money from me at all. I am sure I am not the only one.
Maybe catering primarily to whales is sufficient to sustain growth (as the folks who are able to sustain the scalpers, or more likely to buy everything at separately). We will probably find out in coming years.
GW's biggest issue (and it has been this way for years) is not having enough production capacity to keep up with demand. Which is why it's puzzling that they release these boxed sets at all. We all have a price we're not willing to pay. I suspect though that if Ashes of Faith had a retail price of say £120 instead of £95 it still would have sold out. It might have taken a few more minutes but based on how fast it went I think GW would have had no problem shifting the stock.
Until either GW's products become less popular or they expand their production capacity to a point that is higher than demand they can continue to make odd decisions like this and still have huge profits.
For now I think GW aren't too concerned about the people who find the hobby / individual purchases too expensive. Many would argue it's been that way for decades. How much longer this will last for is anyone's guess.
I agree production capacity is an issue.
I think the issue is that these boxsets used to be a reliable way of keeping people like me engaged in the hobby. Now they are not. The made to order is an obvious solution.
Maybe this won't get better until they expand factory capacity and/or bring printing services in house, but it is still frustrating.
ChargerIIC wrote: If algae farm paste with a little bit of your grandfather in it isn't Grimdark I don't know what is.
Geifer wrote: Regarding the models GW doesn't want you to buy, is that a photoshop mishap or is the Interrogator a vampire?
We may need a new round of redone Marines to keep up with embiggened normal humans very soon.
Going by these set shots and action shots, it seems like the Interrogator is in ordinary human scale and the above is some sort of mishap:
Note that he is specifically not 1.5 times the height of a SoS
Still a lanky lad. Must be from the Dan Abnett school of the Inquisition, where the more important characters tend to be over 6 foot...
Yeah, but at least he's not so badly photoshopped that his 28mm base is as wide as the sister's 32mm base
Thank you. I was hoping someone might have a promo photo like that.
Agreed, looks like he might still be leaning towards the larger side of GW's human range, but at least it doesn't look like he's going to stand out like a freak.
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Why is the rum always gone?
Haighus wrote: Sent the following to GW customer service. Intrigued to see if I get a sensible response.
Hello,
I was very excited about the upcoming Kill Team: Ashes of Faith pre-order today, and I was ready to purchase the box first thing.
Unfortunately, by 10:00am today (when pre-orders are supposed to go live), the box was already sold out. As you can imagine, this was very disappointing. To rub salt in the wound, I received a promotional email advertising the box was available to pre-order ten minutes after it was already unavailable.
Further to this, the box set is already being resold on eBay for at least twice the price.
I am aware a similar thing occurred for the last Kill Team box.
As you can see, there is clearly huge demand for these boxsets, that far outstrips supply. It is causing a lot of bad will within the community and driving down interest in the wider kill team game. From my own perspective, that is £95 Games Workshop will not be getting from me this month, and not for lack of trying. Despite being a loyal customer of Games Workshop for 16 years, this is encouraging me to spend my money with other companies where I can actually obtain the product I want.
During the height of the pandemic, on some releases Games Workshop would honour out-of-stock pre-orders through the made-to-order process. I think the majority of customers would be happy to wait for a guaranteed box several weeks or months down the line rather than missing out now. This seems like an obvious solution to me.
In what way is Games Workshop planning to address this issue that is clear to their customers?
Looking forward to your response,
Name removed
Tried on lots of occasions. The response I always get is "go down to your local GW on release day".
And that response is BS, at least for GW Helsinki. I called them on 15th of May to reserve a copy of Ashes, and they said "we dont have any way to reserve copies, all orders go through the main GW website even from us". Pathetic
I clearly remember being able to reserve a box of Space Hulk when GW Helsinki was still located on the other side of Kamppi shopping mall.. but that was way back when "1 staffer per store" wasn't even in the cards yet. Back then, going into the GW store actually felt like going to a proper trad store such as Stockmann, where staffers remember regular customers by name and service is always impeccable.
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"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
GW's biggest issue (and it has been this way for years) is not having enough production capacity to keep up with demand. Which is why it's puzzling that they release these boxed sets at all. We all have a price we're not willing to pay. I suspect though that if Ashes of Faith had a retail price of say £120 instead of £95 it still would have sold out. It might have taken a few more minutes but based on how fast it went I think GW would have had no problem shifting the stock.
I think the "production capacity" at GW story is a load of rubbish that GW won't comment on.
My opinion is that it's the paperwork/cardboard that is their issue. They probably order the cardboard boxes as flatpacks from China along with books, tokens etc many many months before it's due to sell. They are too scared to order too many, or too stupid to order enough. I don't think it's their plastic production that is causing these issues.
I've bought several models recently as presents for people from the GW online store and these expensive models have come in plain white boxes with more or less photocopied instruction sheets. Not a plastic issue, but paperwork and printed boxes.
I just hope they've ordered more than enough paper/card/boxes/books/etc for Leviathan or 40k v10 release is going to be a disaster for the players, but a "sell out" PR success for the shareholders/newspapers.
And for the record, GW's crappy stock / fomo tactics have meant in the last year, I must have saved nearly £1000. Not to mention the extras I would have purchased for the games I tried to get. I guess I should be grateful.
Currently most played: Silent Death, Mars Code Aurora, Battletech, Warcrow and Infinity.
GW's biggest issue (and it has been this way for years) is not having enough production capacity to keep up with demand. Which is why it's puzzling that they release these boxed sets at all. We all have a price we're not willing to pay. I suspect though that if Ashes of Faith had a retail price of say £120 instead of £95 it still would have sold out. It might have taken a few more minutes but based on how fast it went I think GW would have had no problem shifting the stock.
I think the "production capacity" at GW story is a load of rubbish that GW won't comment on.
My opinion is that it's the paperwork/cardboard that is their issue. They probably order the cardboard boxes as flatpacks from China along with books, tokens etc many many months before it's due to sell. They are too scared to order too many, or too stupid to order enough. I don't think it's their plastic production that is causing these issues.
I've bought several models recently as presents for people from the GW online store and these expensive models have come in plain white boxes with more or less photocopied instruction sheets. Not a plastic issue, but paperwork and printed boxes.
I just hope they've ordered more than enough paper/card/boxes/books/etc for Leviathan or 40k v10 release is going to be a disaster for the players, but a "sell out" PR success for the shareholders/newspapers.
And for the record, GW's crappy stock / fomo tactics have meant in the last year, I must have saved nearly £1000. Not to mention the extras I would have purchased for the games I tried to get. I guess I should be grateful.
My feelings are similar. I still don't understand why GW prioritized building their own paint factory over facilitating their own paper/cardboard printing in-house instead. The fact they need to rely on 3rd party cardstock etc is seriously holding them back
"The larger point though, is that as players, we have more control over what the game looks and feels like than most of us are willing to use in order to solve our own problems"
because cardboard is expensive and having the most expensive part of a product line outsourced to a cheaper region makes sense
specially as this is only for the initial run while the stand alone releases later don't need all that
and that the cardboard might be the problem was already discussed for Cursed City
and because it is ordered for cheap in China, it is nothing that GW can react very quickly as the container shipping it will take months, and ordering another container or doing express by plane will be expensive either way
and other products, like CC have shown them, that doing another order of boxes is not worth it (those that just wanted the models buy them later and the boxed game itself does not sell out after the initial release)
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
I suggest rather than wasting time trying to get any GW fomo releases people spend that time building and painting the minis they have. There will always be a new box full of "cheap" goodies around the corner.
I find this whole fomo style of selling really toxic and detrimental to the hobby and i'd rather people don't constantly fall for it. I mean I am speaking for myself at the very least but i've got a year's worth of plastic to paint. No need for anymore boxes
kodos wrote: because cardboard is expensive and having the most expensive part of a product line outsourced to a cheaper region makes sense
specially as this is only for the initial run while the stand alone releases later don't need all that
and that the cardboard might be the problem was already discussed for Cursed City
and because it is ordered for cheap in China, it is nothing that GW can react very quickly as the container shipping it will take months, and ordering another container or doing express by plane will be expensive either way
and other products, like CC have shown them, that doing another order of boxes is not worth it (those that just wanted the models buy them later and the boxed game itself does not sell out after the initial release)
I think this is not entirely right, I won’t buy these models separately.
Killteam died here as well for similar reasons, the easy boxes where what kept it going.
As if people need to jump though effort, they are playing games they think is more fun.
So I do think this FOMO driven sales does harm GW, and they can only do it since they are so big. A lot of places won’t have a good selection of good games, and players to run them.
Or a large internet fan base that will push every game and effectively exclude others from discussion on the wider form of the internet.
But what it does harm I think is the community’s these games form, and pricing people out is fast approaching here. I wanted the minis for a price since individual kits are just too expensive over other in the market for me.
I find myself in a very odd position. I'm new to all this (or at least the GW side of it) and only really have some of the first issues of the partworks and a 40k starter set on the shelf. I saw this was coming out at about 10 this morning, so logged on at 0955, added to basket and bought one.
Then I see that it went quickly out of stock and this always seems to happen and people are selling for twice the price on Ebay already. And this seems to be a conscious GW tactic.
I'm conflicted. I basically wanted the minis for maybe learning to play or for D&D. Hopefully this set is a good set for learning to play Kill Team?
If not, I'll bang it for sale on here. For the price I paid for it.
Apple fox wrote: I think this is not entirely right, I won’t buy these models separately.
Killteam died here as well for similar reasons, the easy boxes where what kept it going.
As if people need to jump though effort, they are playing games they think is more fun.
So I do think this FOMO driven sales does harm GW, and they can only do it since they are so big. A lot of places won’t have a good selection of good games, and players to run them.
Or a large internet fan base that will push every game and effectively exclude others from discussion on the wider form of the internet.
But what it does harm I think is the community’s these games form, and pricing people out is fast approaching here. I wanted the minis for a price since individual kits are just too expensive over other in the market for me.
well, if the only reason a game is played is because of regular boxe releases, i guess the game itself is not worth playing in the first place but only played because it is a hyped GW game
and it does not hurt GW, not as long as people buy the boxes and play their games, if KT died in your region, which games to people play instead? As long as it is another GW game, it is a win for them
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
khimbar wrote: I find myself in a very odd position. I'm new to all this (or at least the GW side of it) and only really have some of the first issues of the partworks and a 40k starter set on the shelf. I saw this was coming out at about 10 this morning, so logged on at 0955, added to basket and bought one.
Then I see that it went quickly out of stock and this always seems to happen and people are selling for twice the price on Ebay already. And this seems to be a conscious GW tactic.
I'm conflicted. I basically wanted the minis for maybe learning to play or for D&D. Hopefully this set is a good set for learning to play Kill Team?
If not, I'll bang it for sale on here. For the price I paid for it.
No reason to feel guilty, you bought yours fair and square - you just had more luck than many. I believe you still need the base rules to play then contents of the set. That said the campaign looked like a really cool idea, so if I were you I'd keep the box and enjoy the contents.
khimbar wrote: I find myself in a very odd position. I'm new to all this (or at least the GW side of it) and only really have some of the first issues of the partworks and a 40k starter set on the shelf. I saw this was coming out at about 10 this morning, so logged on at 0955, added to basket and bought one.
Then I see that it went quickly out of stock and this always seems to happen and people are selling for twice the price on Ebay already. And this seems to be a conscious GW tactic.
I'm conflicted. I basically wanted the minis for maybe learning to play or for D&D. Hopefully this set is a good set for learning to play Kill Team?
If not, I'll bang it for sale on here. For the price I paid for it.
FWIW, the box does not contain the basic KT rule book, so you won't be able to play without buying that as well. Lacking terrain and the Bespoke Measuring Tools as well, it's not a good set to learn Kill Team.
Then I see that it went quickly out of stock and this always seems to happen and people are selling for twice the price on Ebay already. And this seems to be a conscious GW tactic.
If this is your only source for that conclusion then I'd park that thought. GW has a limited supply and can't seem to figure how to get that into the hands that matter. Selling out to scalpers is not good in the long run for GW and they know it. Their only real solution (an actual pre-order which would determine print runs some time in the future) isn't viable since this isn't an important release and all their other production is tied up in things that actually matter, ie. the 10th edition launch.
What GW really needs to do is address the damage these splash releases do to the brand they are released for. Maybe this as easy as releasing the "cardboard" parts separately or as a reduced price digital download at the same time. We all know the Inquisitorial henchpeople will come later with no old model "discount". But as it is GW makes these throwaway* releases that get them big cash for little work and minimal long term damage.
* They aren't really throwaway, but they are inconsequential to the actual game. The parts will be available later without the big box price/discount.
Apple fox wrote: I think this is not entirely right, I won’t buy these models separately.
Killteam died here as well for similar reasons, the easy boxes where what kept it going.
As if people need to jump though effort, they are playing games they think is more fun.
So I do think this FOMO driven sales does harm GW, and they can only do it since they are so big. A lot of places won’t have a good selection of good games, and players to run them.
Or a large internet fan base that will push every game and effectively exclude others from discussion on the wider form of the internet.
But what it does harm I think is the community’s these games form, and pricing people out is fast approaching here. I wanted the minis for a price since individual kits are just too expensive over other in the market for me.
well, if the only reason a game is played is because of regular boxe releases, i guess the game itself is not worth playing in the first place but only played because it is a hyped GW game
and it does not hurt GW, not as long as people buy the boxes and play their games, if KT died in your region, which games to people play instead? As long as it is another GW game, it is a win for them
New releases are supposed to be a hype generator for a community, and they where playing it more like a board game.
Since some players still feel they haven’t been updated to the new rules yet.
And no GW games played now, maybe 10th will see some play.
And the store can’t Get GW kits like this that would sell. So yay for GW!
Then I see that it went quickly out of stock and this always seems to happen and people are selling for twice the price on Ebay already. And this seems to be a conscious GW tactic.
If this is your only source for that conclusion then I'd park that thought. GW has a limited supply and can't seem to figure how to get that into the hands that matter. Selling out to scalpers is not good in the long run for GW and they know it. Their only real solution (an actual pre-order which would determine print runs some time in the future) isn't viable since this isn't an important release and all their other production is tied up in things that actually matter, ie. the 10th edition launch.
What GW really needs to do is address the damage these splash releases do to the brand they are released for. Maybe this as easy as releasing the "cardboard" parts separately or as a reduced price digital download at the same time. We all know the Inquisitorial henchpeople will come later with no old model "discount". But as it is GW makes these throwaway* releases that get them big cash for little work and minimal long term damage.
* They aren't really throwaway, but they are inconsequential to the actual game. The parts will be available later without the big box price/discount.
Thanks for that, all food for thought. My journey to it was Youtube videos saying 'Great value' and then looking at some of the models and thinking 'Yeah, can use them for DnD or Frostgrave if I don't like the game'. Then having a look at 0955 and clicking buy now.
I can see how this would get irksome over multiple releases, I've been reading other threads on other box sets. I am curious how much GW care? Or what they could do.
