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40K Battleforce discount calculations:

Space Marines:

1x Captain with Jump Pack - £25 - 32,5€ - $40
3x Jump Pack Intercessors - £105 - 135€ - $180
1x Primaris Invader ATV - £30 - 40€ - $50
1x Outriders - £37,5 - 50€ - $60

Prices: £140 - 180€ - $230
Total: £197,5 - 257,5€ - $330
Discounts: 30% - 30% - 30%

Tyranids:

1x Norn Assimilator - £70 - 90€ - $115
1x Hive Tyrant - £37,5 - 50€ - $60
1x Genestealers - £32,5 - 42,5€ - $55
2x Hormagaunts - £60 - €80 - $100

Prices: £140 - 180€ - $230
Total: £200 - 262,5€ - $330
Discounts: 30% - 31% - 30%

World Eaters:

1x Angron - £100 - 130€ - $170
1x Khorne Berzerkers - £40 - 55€ - $65
2x Exalted Eightbound - £75 - 100€ - $120

Prices: £140 - 180€ - $230
Total: £215 - 285€ - $355
Discounts: 35% - 37% - 35%

Leagues of Votann:

1x Grimnyr - £27,5 - 35€ - $45
1x Einhyr Champion - £25 - 32,5€ - $40
2x Einhyr Hearthguard - £75 - 100€ - $120
1x Sagitaur - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Hekaton Land Fortress - £70 - 90€ - $115

Prices: £140 - 180€ - $230
Total: £237,5 - 312,5€ - $385
Discounts: 41% - 42% - 40%

Astra Militarum:

1x Cadian Command Squad - £27,5 - 35€ - $45
2x Cadian Shock Troops - £60 - 80€ - $100
2x Rogal Dorn Battle Tank - £120 - 160€ - $200

Prices: £140 - 180€ - $230
Total: £207,5 - 275€ - $345
Discounts: 32% - 35% - 34%

Orks:

1x Beastboss on Squigosaur - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Ork Beast Snagga Boyz - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Squighog Boyz - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Painboss - £25 - 32,5€ - $40
1x Kill Rig - £85 - 110€ - $140

Prices: £140 - 180€ - $230
Total: £220 - 287,5€ - $365
Discounts: 36% - 37% - 37%

AoS Battleforce discount calculations:

Seraphon:

1x Slann Starmaster - £52.50 - 67,5€ - $85
1x Saurus Warriors - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Kroxigors - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Aggradon Lancers - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Hunters of Huanchi - £37.50 - 50€ - $60

Prices: £135 - 175€ - $220
Total: £202.50 - 267,5€ - $325
Discounts: 33% - 35% - 32%

Ossiarch Bonereapers:

1x Arch-Kavalos Zandtos - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Mortek Guard - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Gothizzar Harvester - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Kavalos Deathriders - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
2x Morghast Archai - £85 - 110€ - $140

Prices: £135 - 175€ - $220
Total: £230 - 300€ - $380
Discounts: 41% -42% - 42%

Slaves to Darkness:

1x Eternus, Blade of The First Prince - £37.5 - 50€ - $60
1x Ogroid Theridons - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Chaos Knights - £40 - 55€ - $65
1x Chaos Chosen - £37.50 - 50€ - $60
1x Chaos Warriors - £37.50 - 50€ - $60

Prices: £135 - 175€ - $220
Total: £192,5 - 260€ - $310
Discounts: 30% - 33% - 29%

Soulblight Gravelords:

1x Vengorian Lord - £42,5 - 55€ - $70
1x Blood Knights - £42,5 - 55€ - $70
1x Deathrattle Skeletons - £37,5 - 50€ - $60
1x Dire Wolves - £35 - 45€ - $60
1x Fell Bats - £35 - 45€ - $60

Prices: £135 - 175€ - $220
Total: £192,5 - 250€ - $320
Discounts: 30% - 30% - 31%

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 Matrindur wrote:

Tyranids:

Norn Emissary 90€
Hive Tyrant 50€
Hormagaunts 3x40€? see below
Genestealers 1x50€? see below
Total: 302.5€ -> 40% discount

(Valrak didn't know how many Hormagaunts and Genestealers will be in the box but based on discount I expect either a 3/1 split for Hormagaunts or a 2/2 split, with the 2/2 split it would be 305€ and 41%)


I think an earlier Valrak video said it was 20 horms in the box?

Norn x 1, HT x 1, Genestealers x 1, and Hormaguants x 2 would be exactly £200 retail. That's approximately the value of last year's xmas boxes, which were sold at a ~35% discount.
   
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 xttz wrote:
 Matrindur wrote:

Tyranids:

Norn Emissary 90€
Hive Tyrant 50€
Hormagaunts 3x40€? see below
Genestealers 1x50€? see below
Total: 302.5€ -> 40% discount

(Valrak didn't know how many Hormagaunts and Genestealers will be in the box but based on discount I expect either a 3/1 split for Hormagaunts or a 2/2 split, with the 2/2 split it would be 305€ and 41%)


I think an earlier Valrak video said it was 20 horms in the box?

Norn x 1, HT x 1, Genestealers x 1, and Hormaguants x 2 would be exactly £200 retail. That's approximately the value of last year's xmas boxes, which were sold at a ~35% discount.


Sorry had a little mistake in there the Genestealers are only 42.5€ not 50€.
If its a 2:1 split that would only be 262.5€ which would only be 31% which I think is a little too low. Of course it could be like in 2021 when the boxes where at different price points but last year every box was the same and there where still some who reached the 40% mark so I think its possible again this year.
Also its the only box with a pre 9th edition model in there so it wouldn't be too strange if GW is fine with a little higher discount
   
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Interesting. I thought an earlier rumor indicated that these would all be character driven boxes (like last years). Only the World Eaters box has a character though.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
Interesting. I thought an earlier rumor indicated that these would all be character driven boxes (like last years). Only the World Eaters box has a character though.

Could argue that Tyranids and Orks are also character-driven, as they have alternate build heroes?

Weirdly light on nameds given the claim though.
   
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Im going to guess the AoS force boxes weren't leaked?
   
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Nothing I need, but at least they look like coherent collections.

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Assuming these rumors are true, the Tyranids box is gonna sell faster than any of the others, and it's not close.

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 ZergSmasher wrote:
Assuming these rumors are true, the Tyranids box is gonna sell faster than any of the others, and it's not close.


It looks like it would be a good step from leviathan box.

For established players it might be a bit redundant. Sure the gaunts and stealers are new sculpts, but don’t offer anything rules-wise new.

Kinda glad none of these appeal to me. Pile of shame could use the break.

   
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Here's hoping for a specialist game box this year.

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Ork box would be perfect had I not just bought my second Squiggasaur. Still worth it if I find myself wanting a Kill Rig; just not sure I want a Kill Rig.
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Here's hoping for a specialist game box this year.


Depends on when the Titan Battlegroup and Knight Household for AT/LI come out.
   
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I'd be surprised to see new kits on the SM and Nids boxes but I'm also way happy with a couple of these and would pick them up.

   
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 Matrindur wrote:
Taken from Valraks newest video with full contents this time:
I just € for my calculations so adapt to your currency as needed
Bases on last years 35%-40% discounts I would expect 180€ this year instead of last years 170€ and that's what the % discounts are based on

Space Marines:

Jump Assault Captain 32.5€ bases on the Captain with Relic Shield
15x Jump Assault Intercessors 3x55€ bases on Heavy Intercessors, see below
Invader-ATV 40€
Outriders 50€
Total: 287.5€ -> 37% discount

(For the JA Intercessors I only expect 5x per box, same as the Heavy Intercessors, since the discount doesn't add otherwise but maybe there are more ATVs/Outriders in the box, Valrak only specified the 15x Jump Assault Intercessors)

Tyranids:

Norn Emissary 90€
Hive Tyrant 50€
Hormagaunts 3x40€? see below
Genestealers 1x42,5€? see below
Total: 302.5€ -> 40% discount

(Valrak didn't know how many Hormagaunts and Genestealers will be in the box but based on discount I expect either a 3/1 split for Hormagaunts or a 2/2 split, with the 2/2 split it would be 305€ and 41%)

World Eaters:

Angron 130€
Berserkers 1x55€? see below
Eightbound 2x50€? see below
Total: 285€ -> 37% discount

(Again Valrak didn't know how many Berserkers/Eightbound will be in the box for sure just that one of them would be 2x with the other 1x but since Eightbound fit Angron better I expect 2x of those)

Leagues of Votan:

Grimnyr 35€
Einhyr Hearthguard 2x50€? see below
Sagitaur 55€
Hekaton Land Fortress 90€
Total: 280€ ->; 36% discount

(He only said talked about 1x Hearthguard in the video but then the discount doesn't work and I think a second one is likelier than 2x Sagitaurs)

Astra Militarum:

Command Squad 35€
Cadian Shock Troopers 2x40€
Rogal Dorn Battle Tank 2x80€
Total: 275 -> 35% discount

Orks:

Kill Rig 110€
Beast Snagga Boyz 2x45€? see below
Squighog Boyz 55€
Beastboss on Squigosaur 45€
Total: 300€ -> 40% discount

(Again didn't specify any numbers but the Boyz are the most likely to double up)

NVM Got my disney dollar symbols mixed up.

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loving that Marine Box, It's the first Marine force box in awhile I'm excited for

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nothing I need, but at least they look like coherent collections.


The votann one is a bit silly, the grimnyr cannot lead the hearthguard.

Good lot of models for a discount box though
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
loving that Marine Box, It's the first Marine force box in awhile I'm excited for


Not a huge fan of the bikes in it, the rest may have me grabbing it. Nid one sounds good too.
   
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 MajorWesJanson wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
loving that Marine Box, It's the first Marine force box in awhile I'm excited for


Not a huge fan of the bikes in it, the rest may have me grabbing it. Nid one sounds good too.


the Bike models are a little dissapointing in their lack of options but they're a decent eneugh unit, TBH this is a good box to build blood angels or white scars around

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You only get 20 Shock Troopers in the AM box, is that right?

 
   
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Memnoch wrote:
You only get 20 Shock Troopers in the AM box, is that right?

That's the rumor yes.

The marine one is interesting just for the jump intercessor bits. I have unbuilt Reivers and Mk6 helmets from FW...

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 Kanluwen wrote:
Memnoch wrote:
You only get 20 Shock Troopers in the AM box, is that right?

That's the rumor yes.

The marine one is interesting just for the jump intercessor bits. I have unbuilt Reivers and Mk6 helmets from FW...



I'd just grab some of the old space marine jump packs available from GW. I've built my Death company using Reiver bodies / arms with Death company jump packs / hands, and a set of assault intercessors by straping on the classic jump pack to the assault intercessors (on foot). They are both dynamic enough in movement but avoid the weird tactical rocks.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
the Bike models are a little dissapointing in their lack of options but they're a decent eneugh unit, TBH this is a good box to build blood angels or white scars around
Maybe the Dark Angel Codex will bring with it a proper Outrider kit that has a Sergeant with options.

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I like tactical rocks personally. I just wish they'd gone Omnis gear for the jump intercessors.
   
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After looking up what units are hidden behind the silly Squat names, I'd take an interest in that box and the Guard one if they're real. Caveats apply of course, like actual availability, finding good track replacements for the Squat RV or feeling shortchanged by the Flintstones tanks in the Guard box. But at a discount, the boxes look palatable enough.

Shame the Boarding Patrol for Squats was so limited. I'm just interested in a few Squats for modeling and painting, and that box had a good selection of things I would have wanted.

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If that Tyranid set is as rumoured I'd be really happy with it and would want to grab at least one or two if possible.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
the Bike models are a little dissapointing in their lack of options but they're a decent eneugh unit, TBH this is a good box to build blood angels or white scars around
Maybe the Dark Angel Codex will bring with it a proper Outrider kit that has a Sergeant with options.

The current rumours say that Ravenwing won't get any updates this time, this time its a focus on everything Terminators
   
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 Matrindur wrote:
The current rumours say that Ravenwing won't get any updates this time, this time its a focus on everything Terminators
Another missed opportunity; GW's second favourite thing in the world.

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Its not a missed opportunity. GW wants to make you buy it twice. They release the Outriders and the dedicated fans go out and buy the Outrider kits and figure out how to convert them to be more Ravenwing-y, then a couple years later GW releases an actual Ravenwing Outriders kit or whatever they end up calling it, and a large chunk of the Ravenwing fans go out and buy more of them to replace or supplement their conversions.

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I was more talking about squad options than making them "Ravenwing-y".

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To be fair, GW just updated the core terminators (well, half of them) so it makes sense to focus on that side of the DA special units.

I’d say the ravenwing bikes were updated not that long ago, but am kinda afraid to go look. Probably longer ago then I think.

   
 
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