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Sarigar wrote:
I didn't think about rolling the Grey Knights into it but it seems plausible. Add in Deathwatch and it helps to reign in codex releases they do not have near term plans for updated models.

in effect let it become "Codex: Imperial Specialists", it also removes the "need" to add yet more units to handle more general situations as the current lot have plenty of overlap.

though I do pity Deathwatch players getting models with "Deathwatch weapons" meant to be painted a bland shade of grey

leopard wrote:

Sarigar wrote:
I didn't think about rolling the Grey Knights into it but it seems plausible. Add in Deathwatch and it helps to reign in codex releases they do not have near term plans for updated models.

in effect let it become "Codex: Imperial Specialists", it also removes the "need" to add yet more units to handle more general situations as the current lot have plenty of overlap.

though I do pity Deathwatch players getting models with "Deathwatch weapons" meant to be painted a bland shade of grey

They could roll in Custodes and SoS as well. But I doubt we will see those or any Marines in this 'Codex'. I think we'll see the same spare parts depot for other Imperial armies as before without the possibility to field an own army in matched play.

a "Talons of the Emperor" part to it would make sense, though custards probably have just about enough models now. but it would give them stuff to fill the "I need something to sit there and look dumb without costing how much!!!" bit.

and yes inclined to agree, the result will be a book thats not viable on its own and ends up with half baked rules they keep having to adjust to allow bits to deploy alongside other imperial formations.

indeed "Codex: stuff all Imperial players can use" makes sense if done right (as would Codex: Generic chaos and renegade stuff")

 Dryaktylus wrote:

They could roll in Custodes and SoS as well. But I doubt we will see those or any Marines in this 'Codex'. I think we'll see the same spare parts depot for other Imperial armies as before without the possibility to field an own army in matched play.

I mean, there's always the possibility that GK, DW, SoB and Talons retain their codices but also have their basic unit reprinted in Agents. Look at how CSM can take their own Legionnaires and also take Berzerkers, Rubrics, and Plague Marines.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

They could roll in Custodes and SoS as well. But I doubt we will see those or any Marines in this 'Codex'. I think we'll see the same spare parts depot for other Imperial armies as before without the possibility to field an own army in matched play.

I mean, there's always the possibility that GK, DW, SoB and Talons retain their codices but also have their basic unit reprinted in Agents. Look at how CSM can take their own Legionnaires and also take Berzerkers, Rubrics, and Plague Marines.

Exept, CSM Index dont "reprint" those units, it clearly point to the respective indexes for rules. .

Yes, and? You don't pay for the index rules via the app or official GW downloads.

We haven't gotten one of the "can take blahblahblah as part of your army" factions as codices yet. CSM are the first book coming up with that setup.

Honestly I'd be very happy if they reprinted these two books with 10th Edition rules.

(The fact I can walk across the room and pull these off a shelf should prove that)

And threw in IG vets as a troop option.

IG doesn't even get IG vets.

 Kanluwen wrote:
IG doesn't even get IG vets.

No need to remind me. I have like a half dozen squads I have to remodel.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yes, and? You don't pay for the index rules via the app or official GW downloads.

We haven't gotten one of the "can take blahblahblah as part of your army" factions as codices yet. CSM are the first book coming up with that setup.

I was just pointing out that CSM rules are a bad reference for you to bring in, as they are are exactly contrary to your point -a small box allowing you to take few special units from an other ruleset in your army. This while your point was that its entierly plausible for GW to make a book made up of units from many different factions.

Perhaps a better reference would have been the crazy Eldar Index that include the ynnari, corsairs and harlequin units and then goes on to also allow you to take in Drukkhari units, although they are not printed in the codex.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

They could roll in Custodes and SoS as well. But I doubt we will see those or any Marines in this 'Codex'. I think we'll see the same spare parts depot for other Imperial armies as before without the possibility to field an own army in matched play.

I mean, there's always the possibility that GK, DW, SoB and Talons retain their codices but also have their basic unit reprinted in Agents. Look at how CSM can take their own Legionnaires and also take Berzerkers, Rubrics, and Plague Marines.

Looking at this edition and the enduring tournament fixation combined with the state of Imperial Agents in the last couple of editions I highly doubt they will release such a chimera codex now.

Regarding CSM: I wouldn't be that surprised if those options are going straight into Legends.

 Fayric wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Yes, and? You don't pay for the index rules via the app or official GW downloads.

We haven't gotten one of the "can take blahblahblah as part of your army" factions as codices yet. CSM are the first book coming up with that setup.

I was just pointing out that CSM rules are a bad reference for you to bring in, as they are are exactly contrary to your point -a small box allowing you to take few special units from an other ruleset in your army. This while your point was that its entierly plausible for GW to make a book made up of units from many different factions.

I said what I said for a reason.

The "basic troop" for those Chambers Militant would be a single unit. Sororitas to accompany a Hereticus Inquisitor, Deathwatch Veterans for a Xenos Inquisitor, and Grey Knights for a Malleus Inquisitor.
Then that adds Sisters of Silence and Custodes for the "Talons" portion.

Given that we already know what makes up Imperial Agents right now, there's going to have to be something in there to make it an actual codex. And given that the leaked page layouts had art of a Grey Knight, it's not unreasonable to make the speculative point that I did.

Either way, we'll get a better idea when Codex: Chaos Space Marines drops.

Perhaps a better reference would have been the crazy Eldar Index that include the ynnari, corsairs and harlequin units and then goes on to also allow you to take in Drukkhari units, although they are not printed in the codex.

Both of those modifications are printed in the Battle Host Detachment on the army builder, rather than the Army Rules like GSC's "Brood Brothers" and CSM's "Lost and the Damned".

It's not beyond the realm of belief that not every Aeldari detachment will feature it.



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 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

They could roll in Custodes and SoS as well. But I doubt we will see those or any Marines in this 'Codex'. I think we'll see the same spare parts depot for other Imperial armies as before without the possibility to field an own army in matched play.

I mean, there's always the possibility that GK, DW, SoB and Talons retain their codices but also have their basic unit reprinted in Agents. Look at how CSM can take their own Legionnaires and also take Berzerkers, Rubrics, and Plague Marines.

Looking at this edition and the enduring tournament fixation combined with the state of Imperial Agents in the last couple of editions I highly doubt they will release such a chimera codex now.

That's what I would have said about Agents getting a codex, period.

Regarding CSM: I wouldn't be that surprised if those options are going straight into Legends.

Those units exist elsewhere though.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Dryaktylus wrote:

They could roll in Custodes and SoS as well. But I doubt we will see those or any Marines in this 'Codex'. I think we'll see the same spare parts depot for other Imperial armies as before without the possibility to field an own army in matched play.

I mean, there's always the possibility that GK, DW, SoB and Talons retain their codices but also have their basic unit reprinted in Agents. Look at how CSM can take their own Legionnaires and also take Berzerkers, Rubrics, and Plague Marines.

Looking at this edition and the enduring tournament fixation combined with the state of Imperial Agents in the last couple of editions I highly doubt they will release such a chimera codex now.

That's what I would have said about Agents getting a codex, period.

I'm not surprised they get a codex, I mean they have some Kill Teams and characters to get out of their gratis download section.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Regarding CSM: I wouldn't be that surprised if those options are going straight into Legends.

Those units exist elsewhere though.

So do several CSM units that aren't available for the Cult Legions, even if they did in the past (Possessed for DG for example) or would make sense. Like I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the option is dropped. We'll see.

Adeptus Ar-bytes.

It should be Ar-bee-tes.

It's like the creator of GIFs calling them JIFs.

 CMLR wrote:
Adeptus Ar-bytes.

It should be Ar-bee-tes.

It's like the creator of GIFs calling them JIFs.

While I get your point, I have a simple and strong opinion about that. High gothic is effectively pseudo Latin. So no one ownes the pronunciation. Latin itself did not have an agreed way of usage all across the Roman empire. So I doubt there is one in the galaxy spanning Imperium.

Apart from that, your best bet is learning italien pronunciation, being a phonetic language that is likely the closest we have to actual Latin in the city of Rome itself. English will not help you at all here.

My best interpretation, based on limited knowledge of other Latin words, is Ar-by-tees.

 Jadenim wrote:
My best interpretation, based on limited knowledge of other Latin words, is Ar-by-tees.

I tend to go with AR-buh-tees, mostly because we know GW uses ass-TAR-tees.

Are-bye-tehz for me.

No ii sounds.

There was literally a Warhammer Community post about this. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/07/is-it-ar-bites-or-ar-bee-tees-how-to-pronounce-the-trickiest-warhammer-words-according-to-the-experts/

Arrr-bittyz

 Scottywan82 wrote:
There was literally a Warhammer Community post about this. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/07/is-it-ar-bites-or-ar-bee-tees-how-to-pronounce-the-trickiest-warhammer-words-according-to-the-experts/

I will say Left-ten-ant when King George's Redcoats come and make me.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Scottywan82 wrote:
There was literally a Warhammer Community post about this. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/02/07/is-it-ar-bites-or-ar-bee-tees-how-to-pronounce-the-trickiest-warhammer-words-according-to-the-experts/

I will say Left-ten-ant when King George's Redcoats come and make me.

100% It was the only bit that I wanted to fistfight someone about.

amusingly done though

 Overread wrote:

 Bosskelot wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:
Either demand is lower than expected, or they've fixed some of the website issues, because I don't seem to be getting caught in a queue today.

I can't think of much else in 40k with less actual demand behind it than Kroot to be fair.

Sisters of Battle before the massive update?


That said the whole queue system is normally for exceptional releases and limited print run releases. So things like one-off books or discount bundle sets and so forth. They should be rarer rather than common events.

The kroot box is discount bundle(with new codex as added bonus) so should be popular enough.

Maybe kroot rules are too bad? Tau itself seems to have got divisive response.

Wonder if they stick with this configuration gimmick in the next edition, they could add Blinding Spear, Brightwind and Soul Cleanse.

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

Uptonius wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:

James12345 wrote:
Excited for inquisition to get full rules again, I really hope they allow lots of customisation though as most people have very unique converted armies

It’s 10th edition, I think you’ll be sorely disappointed if expecting customization

Yeah, my guess is that the Agents of the Imperium book will just be:

- The Inquisition Agents kit
- Eisenhorn(?)
- Greyfax
- Draxus
- The 4 Assassins
- Exaction
- Navy Breachers
- Starstriders
- Watchmaster
- Corvus Blackstar
- The 5 Plastic Grey Knight units
- Maybe 3-5 Marine units
* Intercessors/Jump/Assault
* Aggressors
* Redemptor Dread
* Impulsor
* Repulsor
- New Karamazov
- New Coteaz

That would be 27 Dataslates. So maybe if they add a new squad of Inquisitors or add the Palantine units from Necromunda they max out a codex.

Interesting how you'd keep deathwatch independent but roll in GK. Unless you just forgot about them like GW does?

The astartes units would just need the shoulders and theyd be fine. 3 or 4 weapons arent reason enough for an entire codex.

Are-Bites. Master Chief and the Are-beet-er?

It will never happen, but I think the best way to do it would be three generic troop options:
Light (acoyltes, stormtroopers, arbites etc)
Medium(sisters, death watch, grey knights)
Heavy(terminators)
All fully customisable and able to be fitted out in any way.
Add one inquisitior + henchmen to lead them.

Then you choose an ordo to add special rules.

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Better pictures:

That Lightning Claw lord is amazing.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
That Lightning Claw lord is amazing.

Mister Murder Mittens is pretty good, yes.