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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Of course if you can land locomotive sized hunks of metal from orbit it does beg the question "why bother with troops inside"?

Why not just drop warheads? Or solid kinetic rounds?

But they the whole logic of the game falls apart.

You can't occupy a bunker and acquire intel from it with a nuke.



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 cuda1179 wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

ccs wrote:

And if you don't think those pods are "functioning as part of my army" just as much as a Basilisk or whatever would ? Well....

With the weapons gone, what actions can you take with the drop pod once it's on the table?

Contest/hold an objective?

How is it going to contest an objective if it can't shoot?
I don't know about you, but I really doubt a unit of soldiers are going to see the harmless drop pod and say "well, looks like we're stuck. That immobile, unarmed hunk of metal is completing impeding our ability to walk over there and secure that area. It's not as if we can just shoot that thing without our own weapons unmolested."

A preacher can at least shoot back and is somewhat a threat.

Sir! Our heavily armed and hovering Valkyrie that is full of weapons can't hold the objective!

There's an unarmed and empty Drop Pod nearby!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Of course if you can land locomotive sized hunks of metal from orbit it does beg the question "why bother with troops inside"?

Why not just drop warheads? Or solid kinetic rounds?

But they the whole logic of the game falls apart.

Orks.. they do that.

Roks

I'm waiting til GW makes an Official Rok Model so I dont have to keep using ones from the back yard..

 porkuslime wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Of course if you can land locomotive sized hunks of metal from orbit it does beg the question "why bother with troops inside"?

Why not just drop warheads? Or solid kinetic rounds?

But they the whole logic of the game falls apart.

Orks.. they do that.

Roks

I'm waiting til GW makes an Official Rok Model so I dont have to keep using ones from the back yard..

Ahh but do your roks raise flags and contest objectives?

Dudeface wrote:

 porkuslime wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Of course if you can land locomotive sized hunks of metal from orbit it does beg the question "why bother with troops inside"?

Why not just drop warheads? Or solid kinetic rounds?

But they the whole logic of the game falls apart.

Orks.. they do that.

Roks

I'm waiting til GW makes an Official Rok Model so I dont have to keep using ones from the back yard..

Ahh but do your roks raise flags and contest objectives?

How do tanks raise flags?

Tank crew?

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Tank crew?

OK, I see your Tank crew, and I'll raise with Ballistus Dreadnought.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Of course if you can land locomotive sized hunks of metal from orbit it does beg the question "why bother with troops inside"?

Why not just drop warheads? Or solid kinetic rounds?

But they the whole logic of the game falls apart.

You can't occupy a bunker and acquire intel from it with a nuke.

That requires Marines know how to read, and that they would be allowed to read the maps of Xenos and Heretics.

I love this place.
Rumours out for the upcoming chaos books, including massive reveals of the Worldeaters (Probably fake but hey ho), but instead of discussing them we have multiple pages of discussion on an updated existing model which will have minimal impact on anything in real terms.
Not a complaint, I genuinely find it funny

The drop pod can hold objectives by whacking approaching enemies with the doors.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Of course if you can land locomotive sized hunks of metal from orbit it does beg the question "why bother with troops inside"?

Why not just drop warheads? Or solid kinetic rounds?

But they the whole logic of the game falls apart.

You can't occupy a bunker and acquire intel from it with a nuke.

That requires Marines know how to read, and that they would be allowed to read the maps of Xenos and Heretics.

Why read when they can EAT THEIR BRAINS

Doohicky wrote:
I love this place.
Rumours out for the upcoming chaos books, including massive reveals of the Worldeaters (Probably fake but hey ho), but instead of discussing them we have multiple pages of discussion on an updated existing model which will have minimal impact on anything in real terms.
Not a complaint, I genuinely find it funny

Are there new DG rumors or just the set that included T6 plaguemarines, T7 terminators?

Nothing new with DG as far as I know

There's an EC Codex scan going around and we can now confirm that between the Codex and WD, neither Combat Patrol nor Boarding Actions roster includes Noise Marines...

 Prometheum5 wrote:
There's an EC Codex scan going around and we can now confirm that between the Codex and WD, neither Combat Patrol nor Boarding Actions roster includes Noise Marines...

Buy the new units!

Too true, even with Noise Marines getting a new kit. Combat Patrol design in general just seems to dull next to Spearhead.

Doohicky wrote:
I love this place.
Rumours out for the upcoming chaos books, including massive reveals of the Worldeaters (Probably fake but hey ho), but instead of discussing them we have multiple pages of discussion on an updated existing model which will have minimal impact on anything in real terms.
Not a complaint, I genuinely find it funny

This has been the hot topic on various 40k Discords all day. Overall the codex seems to move away from stacking movement bonuses towards long-bomb early charging, and instead opening up a lot more tactical use of reactive moves, consolidation, and moving through obstacles.

As a WE player I'm pretty excited to see several fresh ways to play the faction. The Berzeker & Eightbound themed detachments look solid, and the jakhal one is a fun idea with them running around after a Lord of Skulls to worship it.

But most interesting is the 'goretrack' transport rush detachment. It has lots of new shenanigans like Berzkers jumping out & surging when a Rhino is shot at, or embarking a transport in the fight phase.

For anyone curious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jXIEIDjdcA

A few days late but just saw the article on the new drop pod. Only GW would try to spin the removal of the option of opening/closing drop pods as some sort of a quality of life feature/improvement. If it ever bothered someone they always had the option of gluing them open or closed (whether on purpose or inadvertently due to wanton glue application like a friend did, lol).

Next up, they'll be slapping their own backs on the removal of the boltrifle option bits to avoid confusion on the tabletop and analysis paralysis in army building!

 Fayric wrote:
The drop pod can hold objectives by whacking approaching enemies with the doors.

Not anymore... The doors are stuck open...

From tonight's Valrak stream -

* The rumour engine image is indeed from a Black Templar HQ unit, but he didn't elaborate on what it is.
* He was unaware of Lady Malys, as far as he knows the DE were going to get a multipart/option Archon kit (I wonder if that would fit with the separate rumour from elsewhere that Asurman and Malys were originally intended to be released with a scrapped additional Arks of Omen book and were held back, hence DE getting two character kits).
* "Lots" of Space Marine stuff coming, more than thought.

I know DE need more, don't shoot the messenger.

Santtu wrote:

 kodos wrote:

the very first drop pod model we got was a paper template in white dwarf to cut your own cardboard model and add parts from the imperial guard tank accessory frame

Which issue is this? I'm curious to see it.

took me a while as I only found the old pdf guide not the original template https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B454R6A0HH50VkhuT3lLOU43UEk/view?usp=drive_link&resourcekey=0-ULnt8CaRrgqQ64wIjXzOmw
(document is named dreadnought pod as this was what it was used later, though the original articles, also in the document, says there is just the one model transporting 10 Marines or 1 Dreadnought)

 The Phazer wrote:
From tonight's Valrak stream -

* The rumour engine image is indeed from a Black Templar HQ unit, but he didn't elaborate on what it is.
* He was unaware of Lady Malys, as far as he knows the DE were going to get a multipart/option Archon kit (I wonder if that would fit with the separate rumour from elsewhere that Asurman and Malys were originally intended to be released with a scrapped additional Arks of Omen book and were held back, hence DE getting two character kits).
* "Lots" of Space Marine stuff coming, more than thought.

I know DE need more, don't shoot the messenger.

"Lots of Space Marines, and two Dark Eldar because we forgot to release one of them years ago" unfortunately sounds exactly like 40K is handled usually

 The Phazer wrote:

* "Lots" of Space Marine stuff coming, more than thought.

What else do Marines need?

Chapter-specific drop pods?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

* "Lots" of Space Marine stuff coming, more than thought.

What else do Marines need?

Chapter-specific drop pods?

As rumours stood it was special characters for each vanilla chapter, assault termies, drop pods, van vets, multipart outriders and a speeder of some flavour. So if it's more onto of that then it sounds like 11th box content.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

* "Lots" of Space Marine stuff coming, more than thought.

What else do Marines need?

nothing, Marines need nothing for 4 Editions now but this doesn't mean they get all new stuff every time simple because they are Marines
and most of the stuff vanishes over time again, because everything they don't need isn't bought as well but just taken either because it comes with the core box or is cheap

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

* "Lots" of Space Marine stuff coming, more than thought.

What else do Marines need?

Chapter-specific drop pods?

Lieutenant-sized drop pods. How else do you get them all onto the table?

They just showed us a new drop pod so its obviously not a matter of "what marines need".

40k is way past the point where any range 'needs' anything.

Leagues of Votann do, but they're still new.
Space Marines haven't needed new stuff since before Centurions came out. And Primaris is just to phase out the old models, and simplify the range.

Releasing Marine stuff is obviously a good idea. Just look at the amount of discussion it has generated in this thread compared to any other rumours.
They are box office, they generate talk and sales.

Is it too much to want a named Epic Hero Drop Pod?