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I personally dont mind the Mutilators. Decent enough starting point for conversions. My fave CSM models by far have always been Gal Vorbak. I am of the mind that best looking Chaos forces are made by obsessive converting and kitbashing, same with Orks. In both factions cases, the GW stock models seem very bland and uninspired these days. Flanderisation is an apt description.

Anyone have an update on the MTO terminators? Or remember how many parts they come in to do the math?

GW wrote:
Contents:
– 1x Captain in Terminator armour
– 1x Librarian in Terminator armour
– 1x Chaplain in Terminator armour

This kit comprises 9 resin components, 5 metal components, and 3x Citadel 40mm Round Bases. These miniatures require assembly and are supplied unpainted – we recommend using Citadel Colour paints.

I suspect with 9 resin to 5 metal ratio, 2 of them are resin. But which one is metal?

It's the Captain who is metal:
- body
- gun arm
- sword
- banner pole
- banner top

I'm kind of tempted by the 4 Captains as a "collector's item" but US$85 is kind of steep.

Maelstrom is up for pre-order next week.

One Enforcer with pup Barghesi for me, please.

Has there been any pricing leaks of Next Week's Releases?

twoseventwo wrote:
What do people find to be good GW examples of machine/flesh monstrosities? I'm not sure I can think of many (the Dark Vengeance Helbrute perhaps).

The tendency for 'Eavy Metal painters to maintain very distinct colours for flesh and metal probably doesn't help their cause.

Not an official model but I do love this version of a Grotesque:

 tauist wrote:
One Enforcer with pup Barghesi for me, please.

Make that two, please!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Maelstrom is up for pre-order next week.

I really want that Eldar battle force, even though I haven't played 40K in 15 years.

 SgtEeveell wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Maelstrom is up for pre-order next week.

I really want that Eldar battle force, even though I haven't played 40K in 15 years.

It’s a nice looking force. I mostly just want the vyper and the seer, so will wait to grab just those separately.

Nothing against the corsairs, just not my army. (I’m pretty pure craftworlders)

 SgtEeveell wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Maelstrom is up for pre-order next week.

I really want that Eldar battle force, even though I haven't played 40K in 15 years.

I'm also very interested, but when it says "limited availability" it probably means "not something you can actually get but rather just an ad for upcoming models"

 schoon wrote:
Has there been any pricing leaks of Next Week's Releases?

Retailers will get a price list tomorrow morning. Calling a’leak’ is a bit of a push.

MarkNorfolk wrote:

 schoon wrote:
Has there been any pricing leaks of Next Week's Releases?

Retailers will get a price list tomorrow morning. Calling a’leak’ is a bit of a push.

It's information consumers aren't intended to have for a further 6 days, so it sort of is.

Prices (from TGA)

€206 = $255, £160
€74 = $94, £57
€135 = $170, £105
€65 = $80, £50

 vipoid wrote:

twoseventwo wrote:
What do people find to be good GW examples of machine/flesh monstrosities? I'm not sure I can think of many (the Dark Vengeance Helbrute perhaps).

The tendency for 'Eavy Metal painters to maintain very distinct colours for flesh and metal probably doesn't help their cause.

Not an official model but I do love this version of a Grotesque:

That's a clone creature from the alchemists of dirz faction in confrontation if anyone wants to get some. I'm partial to their aesthetic, quite like the sentinels of danakil unit.

https://cadwallon.com/rackham-confrontation/armies-of-darkness/alchemists-of-dirz?orderby=price-desc

Maelstrom book to contain Custom Character Creation rules.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/zivixehm/bring-your-own-warlords-to-life-with-custom-character-rules-in-the-maelstrom-crucible-of-champions/

Latest valrak rumours for orks and some other bits:

Painted as goffs

Characters:
- warboss
- pain boy
- weird boy
- big boss nob
- nob with waaagh banner

Units:
- boyz (20) - notes they will be monopose even if they have options
- grots
- wartrakk
- gun emplacement walker thingy

Release date is apparently in June.

New knights model (he previously mentioned something between armiger and questoris in size) is the opposition for IW.

Cryptic remark he heard rumours about "fire and flame" which will blow peoples minds.

*His personal conjecture on price of the launch box, not a rumour,* is that it'll quite likely land at £180 if they feel generous but fears a £200 box.

So long as you make them with the specific list of equipment that comes on the official GW-sanctioned miniature???

Dudeface wrote:
Characters:
- warboss
- pain boy
- weird boy
- big boss nob
- nob with waaagh banner

Units:
- boyz (20) - notes they will be monopose even if they have options
- grots
- wartrakk
- gun emplacement walker thingy

*sigh*

Looks like I'm buying 3 starters for a game I don't play again.

About time that we get a plastic weirdboy. Dunno if we really need another painboy though?

No regular nobs, so they are going for some kind of command squad I guess?

Corsairs get S5 melee (S6 and AP-2 on the charge with the Reeve Capt), Infiltrators and 3 Wounds a piece.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/1v332xbn/discover-a-new-love-for-objective-based-piracy-with-the-red-corsairs-raiders-datasheets/

Seem like a quite solid unit at first glance.

 Oguhmek wrote:
About time that we get a plastic weirdboy. Dunno if we really need another painboy though?

No regular nobs, so they are going for some kind of command squad I guess?

There is precedent with the Council of the WAAAGH! for a previous 7th ed formation and it does seem like GW is in the mood right now in providing retinues for factions, given what we've seen for Huron for CSM, the entourage for Titus and other things.

QUALITY!!

Wow, this looks radical. Also seems to have lots of weapon and posing options, plus alternate armour plates and heads.

Looks to be….Autocannon, Missile Launcher, Lascannon Heavy Flamer and Flaily Thing for arms.

Battle cannon and Plasma Cannon for chest. Plus nipple guns.

It's not better than the old Deffy in my view, just... different. I dislike the bare middle section, looks like you'd easily cut it with your power sword there.

But I like they kept weapon options and added some god-specific head options, which is unfortunately rare with GW these days.

That thing can unfile my records any time!

Hell's horses!

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
It's not better than the old Deffy in my view, just... different. I dislike the bare middle section, looks like you'd easily cut it with your power sword there.

But I like they kept weapon options and added some god-specific head options, which is unfortunately rare with GW these days.

Main article https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/8oknimbb/revealed-the-new-defiler-stomps-onto-the-battlefield/

Shows a variant build with plating over the squishy bits. Dunno if that helps you

Squishy bit also has the suggestion of a human torso being involved.