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I dunno - their handling of Stormcast this edition is already on odd ground having invalidated a bunch of only 3 year old models .

Eventually all Stormcasts without Thunderstrike will get it, unless Sacrosant fate is planned for them, so new Palladors are not impossible.

I know it's not impossible, I just think it would be odd to remake the palladors and leave the hunters. But it would be very unusual to have another infantry kit done right after the liberators.

AoS isn't 40k, but Tyranids just got redone Termagants, Hormagaunts and Genestealers in addition to two new types of Gaunts. It doesn't look like current GW is worried about overloading one FOC slot/battlefield role/whatever pretense of army structure GW fancies at this time if they see a need for releasing certain models.

AoS design team hella more competent than the 40k team tho.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
AoS design team hella more competent than the 40k team tho.

Yeah, they write better rules and their minis look much better.

 Overread wrote:
I dunno - their handling of Stormcast this edition is already on odd ground having invalidated a bunch of only 3 year old models .

People keep saying this, but I'm genuinely confused. What models from the start of 3.0 have been invalidated? Stuff from 2.0 and 1.0 sure, but those are older than 3 years.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I dunno - their handling of Stormcast this edition is already on odd ground having invalidated a bunch of only 3 year old models .

People keep saying this, but I'm genuinely confused. What models from the start of 3.0 have been invalidated? Stuff from 2.0 and 1.0 sure, but those are older than 3 years.

I don't keep enough track but the stormcast hero riding that huge winged mount with a hyena like head

Yes there's a 1 year "grace" period before they enter legends but the models are already pulled from sale

 Overread wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I dunno - their handling of Stormcast this edition is already on odd ground having invalidated a bunch of only 3 year old models .

People keep saying this, but I'm genuinely confused. What models from the start of 3.0 have been invalidated? Stuff from 2.0 and 1.0 sure, but those are older than 3 years.

I don't keep enough track but the stormcast hero riding that huge winged mount with a hyena like head

Yes there's a 1 year "grace" period before they enter legends but the models are already pulled from sale

The Tauralon is from 2nd edition and dropped in August of 2018.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I dunno - their handling of Stormcast this edition is already on odd ground having invalidated a bunch of only 3 year old models .

People keep saying this, but I'm genuinely confused. What models from the start of 3.0 have been invalidated? Stuff from 2.0 and 1.0 sure, but those are older than 3 years.

I just think people are being overly pedantic about the matter. In GW years, the Sacrosanct models were still pretty recent.

While i get it's annoying, the sacrosanct are still perfectly usable. Sequitors especially are just liberators with robes.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
While Palladors would be extremely cool (and i know Whitefang has an extremely good record), i just find it odd unless they redo the Hunters as well. And would GW redo two troop types in same edition?

To clarify its not from Whitefang (they have been missing for a while now) but "Whitefang back me up"

They only appeared back in December and got everything right since then which is the following:

Some release order stuff
BoC going legends
Agents of the Imperium back in February (not sure if the first)
Abraxia, Spear of the Everchosen
Rules from the core book back in March
Some Skaventide models (and the name Skaventide itself)

And now the two things I posted above and a Lord Vigilant on Morrgryph which is apparently "Think the same but BIG" compared to the one in Skaventide

So they are still likely true, just not a long running trusted one like actual Whitefang

Sounds like a Whitefang alt account. That works for me.

Big lord vigilant and small doomwgeel makes it sound like they saw some preproduction prototype prints which they confused for products

I could believe a vigilant on big bird. It would be a monster piece replacement for the Tauralon.

 Matrindur wrote:
a Lord Vigilant on Morrgryph which is apparently "Think the same but BIG" compared to the one in Skaventide

Like a gryph but more

I could see them redoing Hunters in this wave too, they've had ample opportunity to learn from Primaris Marines and should know to rip off the scale refresh bandaid quickly. Never did like the aesthetic of the Vanguard Chamber being as heavily armoured as the rest of them while ostensibly fulfilling a scouting, hit-and-run role (even though a simple Thunderstrike rework would still have them as armoured as the rest, at least it's a slimmer profile).

Plus, it makes the range trimming more palatable overall if their focus is to improve what's still there instead of adding more bloat to a substantial range (another thing they should have learned from Marines)

You know, i was actually looking at their range last night and it's not actually that big. And i don't expect the new wave is going to bloat it to any considerable degree.

One thing I hate about Stormcast is that we need to wait an edition to see what those Chambers left are for. With Sacrosant deleted, there are only Covenant and Logister left, so 6th will be the final revelation.

You suddenly made me think of all those people who complain about nothing but Stormcast releases when all they ever get is a dump once an edition and token releases for the next four years. Although the other chamber names are interesting. i mean Covenant..so like a priestly chamber?

If the Stormcast get the Covenant, who gets the Flood? Idoneth, maybe?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
i mean Covenant..so like a priestly chamber?

Hmmm, you may be right. just like Sacrosant were various levels of Librarians, those could be various levels of Chaplains

This screams fake to me, but i guess it could be real?

I could see it being real - the 40K version did well in Japan so an AoS makes a lot of sense to test the water with

I'd believe that was a real thing, but it'll be an interesting test of how popular Stormcast really are compared to Space Marines.

We already know that's a pointless comparison. Nothing compares to marines, even within 40k.

Fair point. Wonder what the internal sales projections look like.

There's a seller on eBay has them up for preorder for December release, along with a french retailer doing the same thing

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
You suddenly made me think of all those people who complain about nothing but Stormcast releases when all they ever get is a dump once an edition and token releases for the next four years. Although the other chamber names are interesting. i mean Covenant..so like a priestly chamber?

I mean, that's still 3 army-sized dumps in 9 years which is 2-3 dumps more than any other faction got. Some are still sitting pretty on 0 releases apart from token heroes since WHFB ended.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

Some are still sitting pretty on 0 releases apart from token heroes since WHFB ended.

I don't think this is actually true? The army with the lowest number of new kits since AoS started is Ogors and not counting their two UW warbands even they got a new unit (Gorgor Mawpack) together with their two token heroes and a terrain piece.
Everyone else got at least 1 real wave of stuff. Sure for some that was in 1st edition and just token heroes afterwards but still during AoS

 Matrindur wrote:
I don't think this is actually true? The army with the lowest number of new kits since AoS started is Ogors and not counting their two UW warbands even they got a new unit (Gorgor Mawpack) together with their two token heroes and a terrain piece.
Everyone else got at least 1 real wave of stuff. Sure for some that was in 1st edition and just token heroes afterwards but still during AoS

Gorgers are functionally the same as WHU teams and going Legends in 3 years, not exactly an army sized dump. Skaven getting theirs just now, 9 years in, FEC a couple months ago. Most of these can count on another 9 years until they're looked at again, after another 3 waves of SCE.

It's not 40k bad, but there are folks in AoS seeing one faction getting more than triple the stuff of their faction.