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Well it's a change of barcode I believe. So technically the item is "sold out" even though it isn't. So they would have to list it like that until the new box replaces it.

Spirit hosts are in the spearhead, so if they get replaced that would need to go/be updated.

They are also not an easy kit to build, which is odd considering their inclusion in the into mode of the game. I’d love to see them get redone into something that’s less frustrating to work with, but do like how they look.

 Nevelon wrote:
Spirit hosts are in the spearhead, so if they get replaced that would need to go/be updated.

They are also not an easy kit to build, which is odd considering their inclusion in the into mode of the game. I’d love to see them get redone into something that’s less frustrating to work with, but do like how they look.

Pretty sure Nighthaunt are right around the corner, and every new book has included a new Spearhead, so the current one going away soon seems pretty much assured.

Many of the recent releases have kept their existing Spearhead for several months after the battletome released, so thats not guaranteed.

Soulblight got new rules for a new spearhead not yet released, and the old one is still for sale, but they replaced the old skeletons with new ones.

Who knows what GW will do these days...

"IDK Preorders pg91"

I'll just be glad when I can stop seeing "I don't know Pre-Orders"

 Nevelon wrote:
Soulblight got new rules for a new spearhead not yet released, and the old one is still for sale, but they replaced the old skeletons with new ones.

Who knows what GW will do these days...

Those weren't even old skeletons either - I can only figure GW must have had a LOT of people with damage/problems building them to update the kit that swiftly.

 Overread wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:
Soulblight got new rules for a new spearhead not yet released, and the old one is still for sale, but they replaced the old skeletons with new ones.

Who knows what GW will do these days...

Those weren't even old skeletons either - I can only figure GW must have had a LOT of people with damage/problems building them to update the kit that swiftly.

It wasn’t the best kit. Very nice looking though. Just this morning I finished building the last 2 of the 20 from that era I had. I snapped one leg off total during construction, and was lucky enough that the bone ran along the fabric of the coat that the point of brake, so repair was easy.

Comparing them with the Cursed City skeletons, they were a lot harder to build, while looking the same. It is nice to have arm possibility and weapon swaps, but you could have that without the legs/pelvises a completely separate bit. It’s not even like we got any articulation from it. You might get some more visible detail from an extreme upskirt angle, but honestly, when are you going to look for that? on second thought, don’t answer that...

The skeleton kit before the recently replaced one was horrid. Hands down the worst off all the ones I’ve worked with. I’ll take fragile over ugly.

The new barrow guard dont replace deathrattle right?
Barrow guard are some kind of elite/veteran skeleton warriors, and the death rattle are common guard. Right?

Correct. They replace Grave Guard.

Yep - GW decided to call them a different name to fit with the more themed AoS lore; however they basically straight up replace.

The did the same with the new Barrow Riders and the new Dragon which replaces the previous "Zombie dragon".

Those old names are technically still part of the game for a bit, but basically are entirely replaced.



It's a curious way to update; but its been fairly smooth in general. About the only one you could complain about is the dragon as its on a larger base to the old zombie; but as its a base increase its not impossible to step up to a larger base with classic models.

In fact the only thing lacking with the book was the loss of the Terrorgeist and I'm sure that is just whilst GW gets a new one out and then it will either return as an option or you can take it on its own as a regiment of renown

 Platuan4th wrote:
Correct. They replace Grave Guard.

Which was one of the most horrible kits I ever built. I don't know the regular skeletons before the cursed city generation but it feels hard to imagine that they were worse than the Grave Guard with their less than a millimetre wide ball joints.

 Shadox wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Correct. They replace Grave Guard.

Which was one of the most horrible kits I ever built. I don't know the regular skeletons before the cursed city generation but it feels hard to imagine that they were worse than the Grave Guard with their less than a millimetre wide ball joints.

The skeletons from that era are just as bad.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Shadox wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Correct. They replace Grave Guard.

Which was one of the most horrible kits I ever built. I don't know the regular skeletons before the cursed city generation but it feels hard to imagine that they were worse than the Grave Guard with their less than a millimetre wide ball joints.

The skeletons from that era are just as bad.

I must have select memory, as i remember neither of those kits being particularly difficult at all.

The VC skeletons and Grave Guard from 7/8th ed were great and a very significant improvement on the "classic" plastic skeletons that TK are presently lumbered with..

 Mr_Rose wrote:
The VC skeletons and Grave Guard from 7/8th ed were great and a very significant improvement on the "classic" plastic skeletons that TK are presently lumbered with..

While I like the Vampire Counts skeletons, they did become more fragile with thinner bones and spear shafts. They look better than their predecessors, but to people who prioritize sturdiness they may not have been all that great.

That said, the skeletons that followed Cursed City have even thinner bones. Especially the femurs are problematic.

 Overread wrote:

It's a curious way to update; but its been fairly smooth in general. About the only one you could complain about is the dragon as its on a larger base to the old zombie; but as its a base increase its not impossible to step up to a larger base with classic models.

In fact the only thing lacking with the book was the loss of the Terrorgeist and I'm sure that is just whilst GW gets a new one out and then it will either return as an option or you can take it on its own as a regiment of renown

There is of course a not-crazy theory that doing this clears the board for them to return Vampire Counts to the Old World as there'd be no crossover.

I'm still in the camp that GW has enough armies in Old World as is that need updated models in a big way and that now Cathay and eventually Kisleve are going to come out with all new shiny models; the nostalgia for old ponybretonnian riders and such is going to start to wane.

Not to mention GW's desire to improve production by shifting all those model and hybrid models into plastics.