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 LunarSol wrote:

No, just that its more of a percentile scale. Almost like a letter grade or throttle gauge. I mean, realistically claiming the virtues of a -18 to 38 scale sounds like the kind of ugly awful numbers that makes Imperial such a mess, right? A zero to 100 sounds more natural and has been a pretty historically common bounds for a temperate climate, with anything going over the end being pretty extreme. Doesn't help if you live in Arizona of course, but for the most part, its a natural upper and lower bound for most people's day.

Now, I'm not trying to say its better. It's completely arbitrary and if it were replaced tomorrow I wouldn't bat an eye. I just understand why it makes sense to people that mostly only care about temperature as far as it impacts their wardrobe.

Except temperatures below water's freezing point aren't considered to be safe outside.

In C° it is a nice round 0 and you know anything minus that is progressively dangerous cold. And in F° it is 32, which doesn't tell us anything really.

 Tyran wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

No, just that its more of a percentile scale. Almost like a letter grade or throttle gauge. I mean, realistically claiming the virtues of a -18 to 38 scale sounds like the kind of ugly awful numbers that makes Imperial such a mess, right? A zero to 100 sounds more natural and has been a pretty historically common bounds for a temperate climate, with anything going over the end being pretty extreme. Doesn't help if you live in Arizona of course, but for the most part, its a natural upper and lower bound for most people's day.

Now, I'm not trying to say its better. It's completely arbitrary and if it were replaced tomorrow I wouldn't bat an eye. I just understand why it makes sense to people that mostly only care about temperature as far as it impacts their wardrobe.

Except temperatures below water's freezing point aren't considered to be safe outside.

In C° it is a nice round 0 and you know anything minus that is progressively dangerous cold. And in F° it is 32, which doesn't tell us anything really.

32 is still a pretty natural cutoff, being the bottom third of the scale. Below freezing isn't safe, but its no where near dangerous the way 0 F gets. It's ultimately just a scale that works for what it is primarily used for but becomes a complete mess outside of that use case. The only reason people don't care to change is simply because that one use case is really the only thing they care about.

The thing is temperature and old money were all based around 3s and 6s; when decimal came around you kind of have to switch everything over so that they cross relate in a logical manner.

100% we also kept a bunch of Imperial measurements because they are so engrained that they are part of culture. Pints in the Pub; miles on the road. Not to mention a lot of building materials nad such still rely on Imperial not just because you have existing Imperial material in the housing and infrastructure that you just can't pull out in one year.

I fully foresee that we'll eventually do away with miles and pints in the UK. Probably pints first as pubs are shutting down; milk comes in plastic litre containers along with other drinks and so forth. Miles slower because that requires investing in new signboards for the whole road network (and we have enough troubles with signboards rusting off and potholes to worry about changing ALL the speed limit signs

Solved it!

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 Tyran wrote:
Farenheit isn't good for the weather or people. It is good for people that grew up using F° and thus know what F° number means a good temperature, but the same exact same rule applies to people that grew up using C° and thus know what C° number means a good temperature.

The reason why America still uses F° is because America loves to be contrarian about it.

We didn't fight the American Revolution to adopt the same weights and measures standards as our oppressors!

Washington had a dream! How many yards in a mile? Nobody knows!

 Easy E wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
Farenheit isn't good for the weather or people. It is good for people that grew up using F° and thus know what F° number means a good temperature, but the same exact same rule applies to people that grew up using C° and thus know what C° number means a good temperature.

The reason why America still uses F° is because America loves to be contrarian about it.

We didn't fight the American Revolution to adopt the same weights and measures standards as our oppressors!

Washington had a dream! How many yards in a mile? Nobody knows!

THE FRENCH WERE ON YOUR SIDE!

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

 Easy E wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
Farenheit isn't good for the weather or people. It is good for people that grew up using F° and thus know what F° number means a good temperature, but the same exact same rule applies to people that grew up using C° and thus know what C° number means a good temperature.

The reason why America still uses F° is because America loves to be contrarian about it.

We didn't fight the American Revolution to adopt the same weights and measures standards as our oppressors!

Washington had a dream! How many yards in a mile? Nobody knows!

THE FRENCH WERE ON YOUR SIDE!

They were written out of the narrative decades ago!

Because their attempt at decimalising time was a step too far basically for everyone else in the world?

I assume it's actually pretty easy because they don't need to learn Imperial, they just need to measure inches. There are no feet or yards, and nothing has a range of 3/8" like some crazy socket wrench. So they just need to buy a tape measure that has Freedom Units and read it, especially since pre-measuring is part of the game now (damn I'm old).

As for C v F here's a low-IQ alternative to doing math:
Super cold = -20 C = 0 F = 0/3 hotness
Freezing = 0 C = 33 F = 1/3 hotness
Room Temp = 20 C = 67 F = 2/3 hotness
Super hot = 40 C = 100 F = 3/3 hotness

Those numbers aren't totally accurate but they're easy to remember and isn't that more important?

I'm pretty comfy using cm, inches as well as colours. Shapes notsomuch.

Over here, most tape measures have both cm and inches, so thats not a problem.

I think cm makes sense for Epic scale and inches make sense for 28mil. Colours make sense for measuring short ranges, although I've heard many people on the internet are still butthurt they existed

 tauist wrote:
I'm pretty comfy using cm, inches as well as colours. Shapes notsomuch.

Over here, most tape measures have both cm and inches, so thats not a problem.

I think cm makes sense for Epic scale and inches make sense for 28mil. Colours make sense for measuring short ranges, although I've heard many people on the internet are still butthurt they existed

personally I love colours for distances, I always buy Blue by Four wood for shelves for example

Wait, how do you measure things with colors?

You measure things in colors by being GW, build a rule system that works with distances of one, two, three and six inches, then pretend numbers and inches don't exist and assign random colors and shapes to those distances.

Like this:

Oh, wow. Was that what was used in Kill Team?

Yes, in the previous edition released in 2021.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Outside of Battlefleet Gothic, every ruleset seems to be the the Imperial standard of measurement.

I picked up a copy of WHFB Battle for Skull pass from eBay from Spain and it came with blue metric whippy sticks but no rulebook.

 Geifer wrote:
You measure things in colors by being GW, build a rule system that works with distances of one, two, three and six inches, then pretend numbers and inches don't exist and assign random colors and shapes to those distances.

They couldn't register inches as their trademark.

Pretty sure circles have a few examples of prior art associated with

 Flinty wrote:
Pretty sure circles have a few examples of prior art associated with

The only art circles I know of England were in in crops.