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trexmeyer wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Is the new Fantastic Four atompunk?

I'd say so.

I've heard it called retrofuture but that could be the same as atompunk for all I know. You dang kids and your genre slang.

Is atompunk supposed to be 50s futurist aesthetics (like Fallout?).

Pretty sure it’s “lazy boring media slag slang” for anything they can’t be arse to properly describe.

Even worse, when it’s used to praise something they’re told they’re meant to praise, whilst not knowing a jot about *why* it’s praiseworthy.

I apologize in advance to my vegan friends, but...

"It tastes just like [insert food product I like here]."

No. No it doesn't. It doesn't taste like a regular egg. It doesn't taste like regular milk. And for 's sake it it doesn't taste like like a hot fudge sundae.

 LordofHats wrote:
Is atompunk supposed to be 50s futurist aesthetics (like Fallout?).

Yep, that's the prime example.

I like the term Cyberpunk, but the rest are a bit bunk. Calling them Cyberpunk derivatives seems odd when a defining characteristic of Cyberpunk is 'high tech, low life."

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I apologize in advance to my vegan friends, but...

"It tastes just like [insert food product I like here]."

No. No it doesn't. It doesn't taste like a regular egg. It doesn't taste like regular milk. And for 's sake it it doesn't taste like like a hot fudge sundae.

Go easy on them. They just forgot what the real thing tastes like!

 warboss wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
I apologize in advance to my vegan friends, but...

"It tastes just like [insert food product I like here]."

No. No it doesn't. It doesn't taste like a regular egg. It doesn't taste like regular milk. And for 's sake it it doesn't taste like like a hot fudge sundae.

Go easy on them. They just forgot what the real thing tastes like!

Look, there's no such thing as a vegan hot dog, or vegan turkey, or what have you. If you want something that looks and tastes like a hot dog, eat a fething hot dog.

It’s like a Vegetarian Haggis.

A Haggis is defined by its offal. I’m sure the veggie version has every chance of being a tasty meal, but please don’t call it a Haggis. Because it’s not. At all.

Heck, I’m actually quite partial to meat alternatives. Quorn used to do absolutely delicious lemon pepper escalopes, and I’ve have those regularly. And I appreciate for those looking to vary their diet and/or reduce their meat consumption it’s a handy guide to what’s roughly analogous. But it can do too far.

One the one hand I get the annoyance, on the other there are well documented individual and environmental benefits to eating less meat, and change is hard. Especially going against thousands of years of genetically and societally programmed norms.

Let those that choose to change use a little crutch of terminology in their journey. Also if they didn't use those terms, then they would have to come up with a totally new set of terminology that would act as a barrier to understanding. Much easier to say "veggie haggis" and have everyone understand what you are talking about, rather than "plant-based boilable membrane-contained meal core" or whatever.

trexmeyer wrote:

 bullisariuscowl wrote:
'Erm, he's OBVIOUSLY compensating for something! Hee-hee!'

When someone says this about someone owning a larger automobile, they aren't being 'funny' or 'edgy' they're just self-reporting the fact they think of the size of stranger's 'lascannon' when they see a car. It's just unnecessarily insulting too, where did this idea/phrase come from? It's so weird, I swear.

I'm American, so I wouldn't comment on German culture that I know nothing about.

That’s fair, but quite close-minded. I wasn’t even commenting on us culture, just an odd joke I noticed. No need to be miserable, my friend.

I had no idea how much traction whateverpunk gained. Now I'm afraid to look up the etymology of punk to see if it even makes sense to stick it to other words like that.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Eh, I chalk up ATM Machine and DC Comics to stuff like River Ouse, Mount Fuji etc, which respectively mean River River, and Mount Mount.

Guessing you mean Fujiyama here instead of Fuji. Yama means Mount, Fuji is a name ^^

To the best of my knowledge it's fujisan. The kanji yama (mountain) is pronounced san (or zan depending on the previous syllable) in compound words. For English, Mount Fuji is correct.

Only pronouncing half a word- inspo, for example. Always sends a shudder down my tolerance levels.

trexmeyer wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:
Is atompunk supposed to be 50s futurist aesthetics (like Fallout?).

Yep, that's the prime example.

I like the term Cyberpunk, but the rest are a bit bunk. Calling them Cyberpunk derivatives seems odd when a defining characteristic of Cyberpunk is 'high tech, low life."

That was my understanding of all 'punk.' Steampunk. Dungeonpunk. Etc. 'High tech' but stories focused on more mundane day-to-day living rather than the fate of the world and big damn heroes. I suppose a 50s retrotech thing could work for that too, but I'd never heard of the term before.

Thanks to endless joys of my alliance with the Abominable Intelligence known as ChatGPT, we have coined the cool subversive group who we (that includes you) belong to:

Forumpunk

You're welcome.

any of those British sayings like innit or other crap, and calling fries chips, it's confusing, I don't know where chips came out fries, and bloody sounds soft ngl, but I will say prawn isn't half bad of a word. But barbie is weird when talking about barbeque. Also the plurals of word, they should be called meese and a shoop

Ah yes. Good old fashioned American “excellence” on display there.

 JNAProductions wrote:
Ah yes. Good old fashioned American “excellence” on display there.

Yeah, I feel like I need to apologize to the world for that one... ::pokes the 'Ignore' button::

There is a pantheon of swears. And many words inhabit different levels of said pantheon.

It all depends upon the context, pronunciation and vocal tone.

Bloody is a handy word, as it’s typically inoffensive.

At least we don’t go around substituting “damn”. Now that’s a silly swear to begin with, making its substitution and censorship really bloody silly.

 BagMan wrote:
any of those British sayings like innit or other crap, and calling fries chips, it's confusing, chips where made in MERICA (cant take my freedom of religion away) and bloody is a pussy version of fething, y'all say, "You bloody brit," while we say, "You fething brit." See what I mean?

Young man, until the world starts calling it American and not English, I'm afraid we call the shots.

 BagMan wrote:
any of those British sayings like innit or other crap, and calling fries chips, it's confusing, chips where made in MERICA (cant take my freedom of religion away)

See us calling only French Fries fries means that we can separate them from chunkier thicker chips.
We also call crisps crisps not chips

Also we get to have cookies AND biscuits and have them be separate things entirely.

Three more phrases to toss out the proverbial airlock.

1. Totes If I can go the rest of my existence without hearing this, I'll be happy.

2. I know what I'm doing. Usually said by someone who is about to show you that they have no idea what they're doing.

3. Irregardless I'm not even sure this is a real word.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
3. Irregardless I'm not even sure this is a real word.

It sees use and its meaning is commonly understood. That's as real as a word can get, irregardless of your feelings about it.

 Geifer wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
3. Irregardless I'm not even sure this is a real word.

It sees use and its meaning is commonly understood. That's as real as a word can get, irregardless of your feelings about it.

But that totes describes most of the words/phrases here. It’s not they don’t work to convey meaning, it’s just the way they do it pisses off us old foks.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
3. Irregardless I'm not even sure this is a real word.

Narrator Voice: It is not.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
3. Irregardless I'm not even sure this is a real word.

Narrator Voice: It is not.

Sadly, it is, and has been since the late 1700s.

It's stupid, but widespread usage is ultimately what defines a word, and it fits.

Chalk it up to the vagaries of a language that is ultimately just three different other languages in a trenchcoat, further complicated by regional peculiarities. Like 'nonplussed' having two completely different meanings depending on where you are from, or 'sanguine' having two completely different meanings regardless of where you are from.

On second thought, let's not speak English. 'Tis a silly tongue.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
There is a pantheon of swears. And many words inhabit different levels of said pantheon.

It all depends upon the context, pronunciation and vocal tone.

Bloody is a handy word, as it’s typically inoffensive.

At least we don’t go around substituting “damn”. Now that’s a silly swear to begin with, making its substitution and censorship really bloody silly.

And then there are the parts of Scotland where the rather more offensive word beginning with C is used widely as a term of endearment, and in some cases punctuation

 Flinty wrote:


And then there are the parts of Scotland where the rather more offensive word beginning with C is used widely as a term of endearment, and in some cases punctuation

Some parts of Oz as well. Particularly country areas in North Queensland.

Unfortunately. as long as there are "ma goats" there will always be "totes".

 insaniak wrote:
Some parts of Oz as well. Particularly country areas in North Queensland.

I initially thought this was in reference to The Land of Oz from the book series.

I mean, the munchkins were famously terrible, off -camera...

How could I forget the word "normies"?