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Re. The OP here, the first (and only) time I have ever seen two players nearly come to blows over a game was due to the way one of the guys was rolling dice. Deciding game in what was meant to be a fun/narrative event, the one player was cupping the dice in his hand and just almost softly placing them on the tabletop.

I don't think its possible to cheat in this way (certainly in our sphere of games players) but you wouldn't get away with doing it in a casino, and I think it was just happenstance that almost every dice roll was exactly what he needed. What started as good natured comments soon turned confrontational, the one player then became stubborn and kept doing it. In the end it started getting confrontational and the TO had to step in, brought along a dice tray for him to use (think the argument had been he didn't want a pile of dice rolling across the terrain each time).

I really don't like those symbol dice, it makes it very hard to tell at a glance what the other guy rolled. I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

On my side of the table it's a struggle to not get tilted when my dice are really cold, but a man can only handle rolling 25 dice needing 3s and getting 4-5 hits so many times in a row and stay graceful about it.

The Newman wrote:
I really don't like those symbol dice, it makes it very hard to tell at a glance what the other guy rolled. I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

On my side of the table it's a struggle to not get tilted when my dice are really cold, but a man can only handle rolling 25 dice needing 3s and getting 4-5 hits so many times in a row and stay graceful about it.

I've seen symbols on the 1s and the 6s. Sometimes its difficult to keep track of my opponents' dice.

I remember one game vs a Leman Russ that could not fail a save. It felt like my opponent could only roll a 6. Never could prove wrongdoing, but just felt off.

The Newman wrote:
I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

Agreed. If you MUST use metal dice or oversized dice, use a dice tray. Don't roll those boulders at my 3rd edition models, please. I take care of my stuff.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

The Newman wrote:
I really don't like those symbol dice, it makes it very hard to tell at a glance what the other guy rolled. I've also seen people use obnoxious oversized dice for important rolls and that bugs me too. I hate seeing some 2.5" metal death-cube rolling around a table with my models on it.

On my side of the table it's a struggle to not get tilted when my dice are really cold, but a man can only handle rolling 25 dice needing 3s and getting 4-5 hits so many times in a row and stay graceful about it.

I've seen symbols on the 1s and the 6s. Sometimes its difficult to keep track of my opponents' dice.

I remember one game vs a Leman Russ that could not fail a save. It felt like my opponent could only roll a 6. Never could prove wrongdoing, but just felt off.

I've seen a dice set with fancy symbols on all six facings. Those things were impossible to read from across the table

On the topic of dice, I hate dice that have the symbol on the 1 and not the 6. I wanna be happy seeing my faction symbol, not annoyed, and the enemy should fear when your symbol shows up, not be relieved.

Finally a topic worth writing in.

I play very casually maybe 6 games a year and I always tell this to my opponents. There's something deeply annoying in people who keep blah blah blahing about the rules and try to find errors every my turn and after I lose zero to sixty I realize they didn't remind me of the rules that would've benefit me.

Also people who don't seem to have any life besides wargaming. People who never even try to paint their miniatures. People who think being competitive means trying to smash someone who comes to play beerhammer when he gets few hours free from family.

I've been in the hobby for 30 years, and even after all this time, GW flight bases still only come in two flavors.... Unassembled and Broken. You would think they could have address this by now.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

My first offering? And I’m sorry for using a term which for Dakkanauts of a certain vintage might consider questionable….Limp Wristed Dice Rolling. Nothing to do with anyone’s bedroom preferences or sad, lazy, usually wildly inaccurate negative stereotypes. But where someone just doesn’t roll their dice with any feeling or gusto.

Just, pile them on the palm, give a desultory shoogle, before dropping them onto the board from a low height. Literal Limp Wrist. Not metaphorical.

This one gets me because, way back when I was still playing actively, there was a fellow regular that I got a number of games against, and while we were friendly enough, just there was so much about them that got me, and this dice rolling was one of them.

and the thing is, this person did it this way because they had learned a sort of "technique" whereby they rolled really damn well doing this crap. Combine that with being a nerdy know-it-all (seriously, they'd correct you if you got even the slightest detail of ANY nerdy media even slightly wrong. didn't matter if it was Trek, Wars, BSG, Firefly, Aliens franchise, Predator franchise, Gundam, Evangelion, etc. . . they were gonna correct you), an obnoxious level of rules lawyer, and a person who didn't understand the concept of a "fluffy" or "casual" list. . . yeah, the limp wristed dice rolling irritated me.


One thing that bugs me currently, is in regard to certain online forums and social media. . . Let's say someone's having trouble with a paint product, or an airbrush issue, or they're wanting to do things differently from how a manual says to (I'm mostly in scale models these days), and you get the Grog response, or the super unhelpful response as if it's the most obvious thing in the world.

what I mean by the Grog response is basically that person who replies using the fewest words possible. It just smacks of disrespect to the person asking the question. Ya know, person starts with "I was working on blah blah blah, this is all the things I tried to achieve this outcome, but it isn't working, any suggestions?" and there's the inevitable Grog response "use right glue, hurr" or "paint better". . . One that I experienced recently, a kit I was working on called for mixing paint colors. Now, I CAN mix colors, but I've found over the years that if I want to lose all motivation for all miniature painting hobbies, mixing paints is the way to do it. So, I go to a social media site page dedicated to scale modeling and ask the question (with lengthy explanation) "what color should I use to replicate this mix, without mixing paints?" and inevitably there's that jackass: "if you want to get gud, you gotta mix paints". . . like, no the feth I dont. I don't NEED to mix paints to achieve a certain (wrong) color.

Basically. . .is it really so hard to ask for genuinely helpful replies to genuine inquiries? And, if it's a "noob" question, an explanation/reasoning behind an answer is, I've found, always helpful.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
what I mean by the Grog response is basically that person who replies using the fewest words possible. It just smacks of disrespect to the person asking the question.

This is the default in the 3d printing space for some reason.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
what I mean by the Grog response is basically that person who replies using the fewest words possible. It just smacks of disrespect to the person asking the question.

This is the default in the 3d printing space for some reason.

Practical engineers and pirates are both known for their conversational brevity.

Non helpful “help” has always bugged me. Especially on new players. People come in excited “I love army x and unit y, what do I need to play” and being told it’s garbage, sell it, get the latest meta tournament list, etc. You can give help, with footnotes. “The rules for that are not in a good place right now, but if you do xyz you should be able to make a fun themed list that should do OK for play at the FLGS”

I also try to keep a lid on the jargon for new folks. It’s easy to fall into acronyms and short hand, but new players won’t know all that yet. So write it out long the first time, and introduce the terms with descriptions, so they will know them in the future.

Not sure that one’s irrational 🤣

But I do agree. And when discussing what someone’s army may or may not need to whip it into shape? Consider their budget.

It’s all fine and well to say “just get killer unit”. But if killer unit is cash expensive? It may not be the right solution.

 Skinnereal wrote:
There's one.
The word 'mini's' with an apostraphe is probably correct. It is just the plural of the shortening of 'miniatures'.
It just looks wrong.

Not only does it look wrong, but it is wrong. On so many levels.