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The DKoK were a "veteran" squad. A Catachan KT would be a good opportunity to bring back Hardened Veterans and thus plenty of non-standard kit choices.

That’s a feather in your cap.



Reminds me of Pirazzo’s Lost Legion. But surely it can’t be?

An Empire feather covered in ice made me immediately think Kislev.

Definitely a cap feather, but not a happy one. So undead empire-ish model is my guess. Although could be something like a goblin pirate being a little fancy.

Could also be a rogue trader or a fancy hanger-on in the 41st millennium. But I really do hope for something fantasy-ish, even if it's just Bloodbowl.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Could also be a rogue trader or a fancy hanger-on in the 41st millennium. But I really do hope for something fantasy-ish, even if it's just Bloodbowl.

No self respecting rouge trader would let their feather get in such a desperate state!

But yes, it could be a lot of noble/fancy/rich types from the 40k universe.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Aren't those heavy stubbers? Those are substantially less heavy and powerful than heavy bolters. For example, they aren't even Heavy if Space Marines take them in 30k as part of Weapons of Desperation.

Heavy stubbers are basically just WW2-era machine guns in SPACE.

Nope, as noted Bragg carries an Autocannon at times among other heavy weapons and Ox very much carries a Heavy Bolter and even had rule for moving and firing with it in 3rd Edition.

I thought it was a quill at first rather than a cap feather.

Although looking at the corner it definitely looks more like a metal helmet. Speaking of Pizarro it does have that morion crest to it...

But surely GW wouldn't be cool enough to give us all DoW???

New Warhammer empire models!

 Olthannon wrote:
I thought it was a quill at first rather than a cap feather.

Although looking at the corner it definitely looks more like a metal helmet. Speaking of Pizarro it does have that morion crest to it...

But surely GW wouldn't be cool enough to give us all DoW???

Given the size of the feather, I thought it might a plume on a horse's heavy barding rather than a human-sized helmet.

Could it be a pauldron rather than a helmet? Which by position would make a quill rather than a plume?

 Olthannon wrote:
I thought it was a quill at first rather than a cap feather.

Although looking at the corner it definitely looks more like a metal helmet. Speaking of Pizarro it does have that morion crest to it...

But surely GW wouldn't be cool enough to give us all DoW???

If they did, Pirazzo wouldn't be there. Since they've set The Old World ~250 years before the old 'present day', very few of the named Mercenaries will even have been born at that period.

Mayby its from the rumoured new imperial gaurd unit.

Watch them throw a curve ball and its a Ventrillian Nobles Kill Team.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I thought it was a quill at first rather than a cap feather.

Although looking at the corner it definitely looks more like a metal helmet. Speaking of Pizarro it does have that morion crest to it...

But surely GW wouldn't be cool enough to give us all DoW???

If they did, Pirazzo wouldn't be there. Since they've set The Old World ~250 years before the old 'present day', very few of the named Mercenaries will even have been born at that period.

Could be Border Prince units? Being in some Tilea and Estalian flair.


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Askherly, on The Old World? Do we have all the forces covered on release now? If so, perhaps Border Princes/Mercenaries are looking more realistic as the next big addition?

Would love to see a third big book o’ armies, to go with forces of fantasy and ravening hordes we have: renegades and mercenaries, covering all the wacky niche units we know and love, plus several army lists that use those units but with different themes like “hireling army” “pirate raiders” “Silk Road caravan guard” and “actually just the old ogre list”

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:


Probably Imperial Guard. Likely tying into Eye of Terror.

Also looks like a classic Reaver Titan Powerfist to me.

This looks just like the Power Fist from the Carl Weathers Catachan Colonel model.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I thought it was a quill at first rather than a cap feather.

Although looking at the corner it definitely looks more like a metal helmet. Speaking of Pizarro it does have that morion crest to it...

But surely GW wouldn't be cool enough to give us all DoW???

If they did, Pirazzo wouldn't be there. Since they've set The Old World ~250 years before the old 'present day', very few of the named Mercenaries will even have been born at that period.

Yeah sorry I meant more Tilea/ Estalia minis. The old 5th DoW army did just have generic crossbowmen and pikemen etc. Given they're doing a lot with the Border Princes it's an ideal addition to the game and an easy money spinner.

Trouble is making the playstyle unique and different from Empire / Cathay.

Feather is obviously mordheim remake. Perhaps an ostland veteran?

 Olthannon wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
I thought it was a quill at first rather than a cap feather.

Although looking at the corner it definitely looks more like a metal helmet. Speaking of Pizarro it does have that morion crest to it...

But surely GW wouldn't be cool enough to give us all DoW???

If they did, Pirazzo wouldn't be there. Since they've set The Old World ~250 years before the old 'present day', very few of the named Mercenaries will even have been born at that period.

Yeah sorry I meant more Tilea/ Estalia minis. The old 5th DoW army did just have generic crossbowmen and pikemen etc. Given they're doing a lot with the Border Princes it's an ideal addition to the game and an easy money spinner.

Trouble is making the playstyle unique and different from Empire / Cathay.

Pikes and light cavalry. No heavy knights at all, or maybe as a 0-1 rare to represent the border prince’s personal retainers. Also, heavy windlass crossbows rather than the hand-drawn ones the Empire and Dwarfs use.

Galloper Guns as well. Lighter than most Cannon, sure. But when they can trot about threatening to line up flank shots? Arguably more influential and higher damage potential.

Exactly. More of a "drive them into a spiked pit" vs "run up and smash them over the head" kind of play-style.

Indeed. Plus the different Regiments of Pike brought different things. Not necessarily enough of a difference, but the effort was cool.

Birdmen of Catrazza were fun, and could prove a real pest to enemy Artillery in a similar way to Harpies and latterly Gargoyles. Small, roving unit which your opponent couldn’t really move or march block, and so if there was a decent target for them, had to be actively engaged. Add in their light crossbows, and they didn’t even need to get terribly close to threaten Crew and lone characters scuttling about outside of a regiment’s protection.

The biggest downside? All metal army. So they were pretty damned expensive to collect as a full army.

Worth noting this was firmly in the days of “you can fight in two ranks at most, less one dude for every casualty you’ve taken in that round of combat”. And so Pikes, which could fight in four ranks were pretty damned fearsome.

Typically not terribly hard to kill (with T3, even Heavy Armour will only carry you so far), but with almost always a bucket of attacks back regardless? They did the attrition game wonderfully.

Just….protect your damned flanks. Which again is where the Galloper Guns, Birdmen and Vesparro’s Vendetta could come in handy.

In conclusion? If you let the Dogs of War player dictate the flow of the battle, you were probably on your way to a pretty brutal kicking.

That reminds me; I need to paint my Vespero's Vendetta, Pizarro's Lost Legion, and Voland's Venators

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Indeed. Plus the different Regiments of Pike brought different things. Not necessarily enough of a difference, but the effort was cool.

Birdmen of Catrazza were fun, and could prove a real pest to enemy Artillery in a similar way to Harpies and latterly Gargoyles. Small, roving unit which your opponent couldn’t really move or march block, and so if there was a decent target for them, had to be actively engaged. Add in their light crossbows, and they didn’t even need to get terribly close to threaten Crew and lone characters scuttling about outside of a regiment’s protection.

The biggest downside? All metal army. So they were pretty damned expensive to collect as a full army.

Worth noting this was firmly in the days of “you can fight in two ranks at most, less one dude for every casualty you’ve taken in that round of combat”. And so Pikes, which could fight in four ranks were pretty damned fearsome.

Typically not terribly hard to kill (with T3, even Heavy Armour will only carry you so far), but with almost always a bucket of attacks back regardless? They did the attrition game wonderfully.

Just….protect your damned flanks. Which again is where the Galloper Guns, Birdmen and Vesparro’s Vendetta could come in handy.

In conclusion? If you let the Dogs of War player dictate the flow of the battle, you were probably on your way to a pretty brutal kicking.

Again though, the really cool DoW stuff isn't available in this time period; no galloper guns, slayer pirates or birdmen. GW would have to put some effort into thinking up some wacky, awesome alternatives, and I'm not sure they're up to it.

I'd be happy with just the non-Regiments of Reknown DoW list: pikemen, heavy cavalry, duelists, marauders, crossbow men.

Nothing wrong with altering the timeline. Whilst fondly remembered, the Dogs of War range was sadly mostly a short lived sideshow.

Bronzino got his Galloper Gun idea from somewhere. Why not historical documents?

Didn’t the list have generic light cannon, with Bronzino’s particular named company just being the best at the move-and-fire thing? Or was that a later version?

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Didn’t the list have generic light cannon, with Bronzino’s particular named company just being the best at the move-and-fire thing? Or was that a later version?

Did DoW get army rules outside of 5th edition WHFB?

Checking may army book, it was a handful of generic characters, and everything else was a specific regiment of renown or named character.

Nothing in the 6th ravening hordes pamphlet. I stopped collecting army books at some point into 6th, so if there was one I might have missed it. Dropped out of WHFB at that point.

I don’t recall them getting anything else.

But then, some units were added (Cursed Company, Tuichi-uichi’s Raiders, and I think another one I can’t remember for the life of me). When that happened I honestly don’t know.