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Which make the coolest near-future sci-fi urban combat dudes?


Viridian Colonial Marines






Rezolution DT Peacekeepers:





Cyclopes Gaming Elite Somethingorothers




Kasrkins:

I have a bunch of the Veridians, and while they're a tad smaller than the kasrkins, they don't look out of place with Cadians or the older metal IG, and look great with other lines (e.g. Copplestone Casting/EM-4's future Warriors).

Kasrkins all the way!

They are all cool, but my top two choices are Viridians & Kasrkin, in that order. I don't know why, but the Viridian's slightly lower-tech style has a gritty realism that is quite appealing.
You didn't include the Imperial or Bauhaus plastics from Warzone- because they are hard to find, maybe?

Don't forget Pig Iron Production's Heavy Armored Infantry, which are pretty damn sweet. I also like the Viridians, and Rackham's AT-43 Red Star & White Star infantry dudes (and power armor!), the latter which comes pre-assembled and pre-painted to boot. GW's Kasrkin aren't bad either and I'd like to see the Rezolution figs up close (or just better lit pics), but they look pretty cool too.

As to my favorite? I voted the Viridians. They may not be the most detailed or well sculpted of the bunch, but I love the Jin-Roh style night vision face plates combined with the WW1 stormtrooper look of the miniatures. Very, very close behind are the Kasrkin & AT-43 stuff, both which I think are very well done.

love those pig iron heads, wonder if they sell them as a seperate item
millest

Posted By millest on 02/17/2007 11:23 AM
love those pig iron heads, wonder if they sell them as a seperate item
millest

I thought there were plans to that regard? Maybe I'm making that up.

For those who want Veridians but would like some 'soft cap' options, they do make Colonial Marine 'Veterans' and a 'Veteran Sgt.' who have soft caps/kepis, somewhere between WWII-german and  Cold War-era US Marines. They mix well with each other, and look essentially interchangable.

the entire viridian line is on the urban mammoth website, along with the older (and crappier) void range. I'm considering a small alternative-model "guard force". how well do you think all of the above would blend into a single army?

Also, Hadn't seen the pig-iron stuff before - it looks pretty cool. if there are any other decent "gritty, realistic sci-fi trooper" - type figures out there please let me know. and no, I'm not ready to sell any bodyparts for those fw elysians or deathcorps models

Re: warzone. where can you find a comprehensive online dealer for their stuff. there are a couple releases, right? I've never heard of any plastic warzone stuff - I thought most of the models were lumpy, badly sculpted metals

edit: its the prince august site, isn't it...

I voted for the Peacekeepers. I'd like to see a better picture of them, but they look pretty good. Probably the Kasrkins are the best, they're great models and I enjoyed painting mine, but what I can see of the Peacekeepers is very cool.

My favorites are the Kasrkin followed by the heavy armored infantry.

I've always liked the Veridians, and the Peacekeepers are interesting, but my vote goes with the Kasrkin. I fell in love with those models the moment I saw them, and now I have a whole case full of them. Awesome sculpts.

BYE

Viridians for sure.

That being said, you have several very nice selections listed.  The Kasrkins are very nice, and I saw the Rezolution figs at Origins - they are simple, but cool.

Also, the Pig Iron heavy infantry are pretty cool as well. 

Viridians are still my favorite though.  They're just fantastic, I think.

 

In other news, while all of your choices have merit, I lean toward Rackham's Red Blok figs (and White Stars as a close second). They're sculpted well, they're some of the most proportionate heroic scale figs (I'm a stickler for proportion), and their kit looks near-future.

Out of your choices though, I'd have to go with Kasrkin on the basis of their sculpt quality. If it's within your budget, I'd recommend buying the ForgeWorld Cadian rebreather heads for use with the Cadian plastics. You'll have more posing options, and it might be cheaper than buying a bunch of metal Kasrkin.

I've considered almost everything already suggested, which I think is a good sign since it means I'm not missing anything major in the great world of expensive-toy-soldiers.

I've been thinking about the cadians with rebreathers. One advantage with those is that I'd be able to use them in GW sanctioned, uh stuff.

One question - when are those red-bloc soldiers coming out? I've got some (little) pictures of them, and they look great (and proportional - I like proportional a lot). And is there anywhere I can get better pictures of them?

re: cadian rebreather heads - with those things on, the cadians begin to look pretty much exactly like the kasrkin to me. the only thing I don't like about the kasrkin are their giant chunky ridiculous looking hell-guns. I mean, oversized weapons is pretty much how gw works, but that's why I'm considering other companies

I hear the Red Blok have been delayed a couple months. As for pictures do a search in News and Rumors - there's been some decent pics posted recently.

I agree that the Kasrkin hellguns are clunky. That's one perk to using the plastic Cadians - the plastics are easier to modify. Snipping the Cadian lasgun barrel gives them a nifty "bullpup" look::

to be 'bullpup' the clip would have to be behind the grip and trigger...

Well, whatever you call it, it looks more "near future". When I clipped the barrel, some folks said it reminded them of a "bullpup". What would be a better term? 

Posted By Elusive71 on 02/19/2007 5:10 PM
Well, whatever you call it, it looks more "near future". When I clipped the barrel, some folks said it reminded them of a "bullpup". What would be a better term? 

Assault Flashlight? Cool? I don't know but Torealis is correct, 'bullpup' refers to assault rifles whose grip & trigger mechanism is placed before the receiver/ammo clip (see the HK G-11, L85 IW and Steyr-Aug for modern day examples). That all said, yours is a better looking lasgun...

Dumbucket, is closer and more proper proportions your chief concern? If so, FW's Krieg Death Korps are looking mighty fine and their lasguns seem properly proportioned (the rest of the guns, I'm not so sure). Unless they aren't armored enough for you (I'm guessing you want more storm-troopery figs?), in which Rezolution CSO Peacekeepers at Rattlehead Games, might be the best. You might also want to check out Copplestone Castings "Future Wars", particularly the various Assault Trooper packs.

Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 02/19/2007 6:26 PM


Dumbucket, is closer and more proper proportions your chief concern? If so, FW's Krieg Death Korps are looking mighty fine and their lasguns seem properly proportioned (the rest of the guns, I'm not so sure). Unless they aren't armored enough for you (I'm guessing you want more storm-troopery figs?), in which Rezolution CSO Peacekeepers at Rattlehead Games, might be the best. You might also want to check out Copplestone Castings "Future Wars", particularly the various Assault Trooper packs.

I have a pile of the Copplestone stuff. They scale well with GW Cadians (plastic) and look quite nice. One-piecers, but with a lot of good detail. There's only one US distributor for CC stuff (unless Neal actually did pick the line up over at the Warstore), so it's ordering from the UK, but it's not too bad.

Posted By dumbuket on 02/17/2007 2:34 PM
the entire viridian line is on the urban mammoth website, along with the older (and crappier) void range. I'm considering a small alternative-model "guard force". how well do you think all of the above would blend into a single army?

If you were going with Shock Marines and Interdicts, I think both Urban War and Void figs would blend, but the Viridian grunts for both are very different.

Re: warzone. where can you find a comprehensive online dealer for their stuff. there are a couple releases, right? I've never heard of any plastic warzone stuff - I thought most of the models were lumpy, badly sculpted metals

edit: its the prince august site, isn't it...

The plastics were decent but I think of all the Warzone figs, the 2nd edition Imperial Blood Berets were the coolest. If you don't mind lack of posability, they might be of interest to you. Probably an eBay purchase though. Click HERE to see them (top four pics).

 

 

Dumbuket, what'd you think of those Blood Berets?

There's another option I totally forgot about: VOR The Maelstrom. There may be figs in the Union and Neo-Soviet lines that would work for you. By today's standards, they're not the best sculpts, but there are some nice pieces in there. I'm fond of the Union Power Armor guys myself.

Iron Wind picked up the rights to produce them so you can see them here: IRON WIND METALS

You know, I just realized, regarding those snipped down Cadian lasguns, it wasn't "bullpups" they had been compared to, it was "bulldogs" as in the bulldog rifles of some of VOR Union figs.   

I'm not particularly fond of the blood berets, the copplestone minis, or the pig iron models. The deathcorps guys are fantastic, but they're too expensive and I don't want a ww1 look. Maybe in a couple years, when my income increases, I'll build a little deathcorp army but now's not the time (and that's assuming I'm still with the hobby that far down the line).

I'm also going to be using some at-43 models - the white star TacArms, specifically. I don't really like the infantry - they're nice models, but not "storm-trooper-ish" enough and too obviously not gw. viridians could pass more easily, I think. the suits, though, I could use as ogryns, sentinels, inducted grey knights, or even deathwatch (their size fits a spacemarine statline better than a plastic marine, I think)

I'm going to pick up the cso guys, the ones I mentioned on the front page, as my heavy "stormtrooper" units, I'm just drawn between viridians, kasrkins, and fw cadians for the regular 5+ guys. Its going to be a mechanized army for the lower model count, and I'm going to be using old crow resin vehicles instead of gw stuff - cleaner, simpler resin vehicles, still fairly sturdy, and "higher tech" looking. Dressed up with card I think they could pass as scratch-builds at gw events and at a place like adepticon, nobody would care, right?

here's the vehicle site - does anyone know of any better sci-fi vehicle kits?

www.oldcrowmodels.co.uk

sorry about the big block of text there... and please, no bickering about people's "metrics" - everyone has their own set of criteria for evaluating models (plastic, fashion, or mathematical). some models are better than others, but past a certain point its really a matter of taste

p.s. I might buy a bag of those warzone plastics. the sculpts are better than most of the metal warzone stuff and they're so cheap... perfect to flesh out an army or use for a ringer force

Sounds like some good choices. One more option for you:

Did you check out Forge World's Elysians with Respirators?

You have to buy a pack of Respirator Heads seperately:

Regarding vehicles, besides Pig Iron and Warcrow, I could have sworn there was another company making sci-fi APCs and such. Grendal has a few, but they're too small really. Keep in mind that Warcrow vehicles may still look to small with some of the figs you're considering. The Pig Iron tanks are plenty big enough though.

Posted By dumbuket on 02/17/2007 2:34 PM
Re: warzone. where can you find a comprehensive online dealer for their stuff. there are a couple releases, right? I've never heard of any plastic warzone stuff - I thought most of the models were lumpy, badly sculpted metals

edit: its the prince august site, isn't it...

Yes.  80 figs for 20 Euros... forty each of Imperial Trenchers and Bauhuas Troopers.

http://www.princeaugust.ie/