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**nyyman**

So I'm a true fan of Pokemon games, from Red and blue till Diamond and Pearl and Platinum.
Anyone else a Pokemon fan here?
Also, general discuss of Pokemon games, like your favourite game, favourite team and your feelings from upcoming Heart Gold and Soul Silver etc.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

Yes! I was following it in Japan on the internet before they announced that they were bringing it over. We should totally battle over Wi-Fi

I think the easiest question is what is your favorite one, and my answer would be Breloom. Game play-wise and aesthetically, I love the little guy. What's yours?

**Zid**

I love the games, tho I didn't beat my pearl version lol. Lost interest due to wow :( Might hafta go back and play it again...

**KingCracker**

Yep. Ive been a fan of the games for YEARS. I even got my wife hooked on it due to the shadow one for the gamecube. I think my fav to use tho is a Machamp. Super bad ass killer of killers lol. Ive always had one

**OverbossGhurzubMoga**

I played. Liked 'em all up til Crystal. Haven't played any of them since.

**Orkeosaurus**

RED AND BLUE ARE THE ONLY REAL POKEMONS.

**garret**

Pokemon is evil. plain and simple.
Its because the main purpose is to capture innocent animals and make them fight for our enjoyment.

**Cheese Elemental**

garret wrote:Pokemon is evil. plain and simple.
Its because the main purpose is to capture innocent animals and make them fight for our enjoyment.

Hahaha, oh wow.

**garret**

You can luagh at it all you want that doesnt mens its untrue.

**Cheese Elemental**

Saying Pokemon is evil is like saying smoking makes you live longer.

**garret**

It is about making animals fight? how is that not evil.
and even worse they dont get let out of there balls unless they want them to fight. you can deny it but it is true.

**Cheese Elemental**

By that logic, GTA is evil because you kill innocent people, WoW is evil because it glorifies war, and Halo is evil because you shoot aliens which is obviously a poorly disguised racist attack.

:

**garret**

Those arent advertised to a impressionable demographic.

**Cheese Elemental**

Marketing doesn't make a difference when it comes to games. GTA is aimed at older gamers, but there are a lot of kids playing it on XBL.

**Orkeosaurus**

Every 12 year old boy wants to be a gangsta.

Hopefully they grow out of it.

**Zid**

garret wrote:Those arent advertised to a impressionable demographic.

Uhm... more people below the age of 12 play wow. And you know the kind of language and things that get thrown around on that game.

And Pokemon cannot even be classified as animals. Heck, all the game is is a rock paper scissors fight between two imaginary thingamajoos. If you wanted to take this stance damn near ANY anime related kids game is "evil";bakugan, digimon, all those sorts of shows. Even Dragonball Z was aimed at youngsters and that shows pretty violent!

**KingCracker**

Oh cmon you guys! Lets all be men here admit that we absolutely LOVE dog fights..... right?

**Zid**

KingCracker wrote:Oh cmon you guys! Lets all be men here admit that we absolutely LOVE dog fights..... right?

Dog fights is one thing, digital dragons and giant rock snakes battling is another -_-

**KingCracker**

OH you mean we have to draw the line somewhere? Well gak!

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

*insert random ridiculous appeal to morality*

I wanna join in too!

Srsly, am I making animals fight when playing Pokemon? No. Am I pressing a button on a controller that makes a processor run some code and display some pixels in a random order? Yes. Therefore Pokemon is not equal to animal cruelty.

**nyyman**

People, stop talking about pokemon games being dogfights. They are not. They were (firstly) planned for children and even Nintendo isn't cruel enough to teach kids bad things.
Right?

**garret**

Yeah it is. They are based off real animals like big surprise the firedog or what ever. and yes nintendo is they once made a pokemon card with a swastika printed on it.
but i got to go i will continue tommorow.

**Cheese Elemental**

garret wrote:and yes nintendo is they once made a pokemon card with a swastika printed on it.

**BrookM**

garret wrote:It is about making animals fight? how is that not evil.
and even worse they dont get let out of there balls unless they want them to fight. you can deny it but it is true.

This coming from an donkey-cave who says that we should corral and eat more exotic animals because they are tasty?

Well done! Well done indeed! Nobel Prize of something something for this chap here.

p.s.

It's fake. Just a game. Unless you have some clever argument with scientific proof that Pokemon led to an increase in cockfighting and dogfighting.

**SagesStone**

I started Pokemon with Blue. Favorite is Blastoise, nothing wrong with a big turtle with two cannons coming out of it's shell.

/topicbackontrack?

**garret**

here is the orignial picture that was going to be on the card

here is the card know

heres a link
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-4525479.html
if you dont believe it look up
pokemon card with swastika
your self

**SagesStone**

That's a kanji character, about buddism. The Nazi one goes to the right and is a mirror image of that.

Today the symbol is used in Buddhist art and scripture, known in Japanese as a manji (literally, "the character for eternality" 萬字), and represents Dharma, universal harmony, and the balance of opposites. When facing left, it is the omote (front) manji, representing love and mercy. Facing right, it represents strength and intelligence, and is called the ura (rear) manji. Balanced manji are often found at the beginning and end of Buddhist scriptures (outside India).

A manji marks the beginning of many Buddhist scriptures. The manji (in either orientation) appears on the chest of some statues of Gautama Buddha and is often incised on the soles of the feet of the Buddha in statuary. Because of the association of the right-facing swastika with Nazism, Buddhist manji (outside India only) after the mid-20th century are almost universally left-facing: 卍. This form of the manji is often found on Chinese food packaging to signify that the product is vegetarian and can be consumed by strict Buddhists. It is often sewn into the collars of Chinese children's clothing to protect them from evil spirits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%8D#Buddhism

The one pointing left is the good one, the one the nazis used was the one that points to the right.

**Cannerus_The_Unbearable**

I have that card

and ignoring that it's kanji, wasn't Japan allied with the germans?

**SagesStone**

Yes, but that symbol existed for ages before the nazis appaered, I think. If it's to the right like the nazi one, it's supposed to mean strength and intelligence. So they probably got it from them.

This thread went from pokemon to nazis

**Zid**

n0t_u wrote:That's a kanji character, about buddism. The Nazi one goes to the right and is a mirror image of that.

Today the symbol is used in Buddhist art and scripture, known in Japanese as a manji (literally, "the character for eternality" 萬字), and represents Dharma, universal harmony, and the balance of opposites. When facing left, it is the omote (front) manji, representing love and mercy. Facing right, it represents strength and intelligence, and is called the ura (rear) manji. Balanced manji are often found at the beginning and end of Buddhist scriptures (outside India).

A manji marks the beginning of many Buddhist scriptures. The manji (in either orientation) appears on the chest of some statues of Gautama Buddha and is often incised on the soles of the feet of the Buddha in statuary. Because of the association of the right-facing swastika with Nazism, Buddhist manji (outside India only) after the mid-20th century are almost universally left-facing: 卍. This form of the manji is often found on Chinese food packaging to signify that the product is vegetarian and can be consumed by strict Buddhists. It is often sewn into the collars of Chinese children's clothing to protect them from evil spirits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%8D%8D#Buddhism

The one pointing left is the good one, the one the nazis used was the one that points to the right.

You sir are full of win. Knock em off his high horse