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After reading the novel 'Gunheads', (more than once!) i have been obsessed with tank companies. Nothing grasps the imagination like entire companies of 85 tonn warmachines speeding towards the enemy cannons booming and guns chattering, massacring inferior amour and infantry in great swaths of explosions and hails of lead.

I discovered the imperial amour tank company data sheet by forge world and loved it after an earlier failed attempt at the ig codex. this is my bet list i could come up with and seems to cover all angles, ant-amour, ant-heavy infantry and hoard troops. the idea is to sitt back and blast with the battle cannons and move in with the others.

I have posted this to let you ig tank pros tell me hows its done, if you would be so kind

i only have about 5 of the models so can change the list before i Finnish it.

HEAD QUARTERS-185pts
company command tank 'Emperors Sword' 185pts
vanquisher: Vanquisher battle cannon + sponson heavy bolters
camo netting 20pts

ELITES-690pts
squadron command tank 'Emperors Light' 230pts
executioner:executioner plasma cannon + sponson plasma cannon

squadron command tank 'Emperors Fury' 230pts
executioner:executioner plasma cannon + sponson plasma cannon

squadron command tank 'Emperors Wrath' 230pts
executioner:executioner plasma cannon + sponson plasma cannon

TROOPS-1020pts
Leman russ 170pts
battle cannon + sponson heavy bolters
camo netting 20pts

Leman russ 170pts
battle cannon + sponson heavy bolters
camo netting 20pts

Leman russ 170pts
battle cannon + sponson heavy bolters
camo netting 20pts

Leman russ 170pts
battle cannon + sponson heavy bolters
camo netting 20pts

leman russ exterminator 170pts
Exterminator autocannons + sponson heavy bolters/flamers

leman russ exterminator 170pts
Exterminator autocannons + sponson heavy bolters/flamers

all tanks have a hull mounted heavy bolter except the exterminators if they have heavy flamers sponsons they would have hull mounted heavy flamers too.
1995pts

So what do you think?

Change a couple of the LRBT's to Vanquishers, otherwise you only have one reasonably reliable AT weapon in that list.

You have 360pts invested in sponsons and camo nettings. That's two extra tanks with points to spare.

When it comes to Guard and upgrades, bring as many units as possible, than add extra upgrades. I personally don't believe in sponsons myself, particularly heavy bolter sponsons, and camo netting won't really do much as it only improves upon your cover save if you didn't move and have cover in the first place.

I'd highly recommend dropping all the sponsons and nets for two extra tanks and use the leftovers for ace skills or something similar.

Blacksails wrote:You have 360pts invested in sponsons and camo nettings. That's two extra tanks with points to spare.

When it comes to Guard and upgrades, bring as many units as possible, than add extra upgrades. I personally don't believe in sponsons myself, particularly heavy bolter sponsons, and camo netting won't really do much as it only improves upon your cover save if you didn't move and have cover in the first place.

I'd highly recommend dropping all the sponsons and nets for two extra tanks and use the leftovers for ace skills or something similar.

Agree completely with this. Sponsons are cool in theory, but in the game they don't pan out that well unless you are stationary, which you shouldn't want to be! There are several reasons to keep your Tanks moving, better firing lanes, cover, etc., but one of the most important is to make sure that you don't get auto hit by anything in close combat. Embrace the old German Blitzkrieg, Lightning war it up!

I would definitely drop one of the Executioners for a Commissar Vanquisher , benefiting from that BS 4...Also, for (i think) only 10 points you can get the co-axial heavy stubber, which is one of the few upgrades I would recommend (allowing rerolled failed to hits with the big gun is fantastic, of course you have to hit with the stubber...)

I'd Recommend something like:

CCS Vanquisher with Co-axial Heavy Stubber
Commissar Vanquisher w/ co-axial Heavy Stubber
Leman Russ Executioner x1
Leman Russ MBT x 4
Leman Russ Demolishers x 2 (personal preference, fills same roll as executioners though, and cheaper albeit less range, but remember Herr General, always forward!)

That should bring you to around 1620 points or so. Fill in the rest with Hell Hounds, another executioner, Hydras (recommended to fulfill the roll of your exterminators, at half the cost), enclosed crew compartment artillery of your choice...the options are pretty open!

But, if your opponent is already letting you use Forgeworld rules....why not pick up a Macharius or Baneblade variant

Edit for clarification...

Redsox84 wrote:

Blacksails wrote:You have 360pts invested in sponsons and camo nettings. That's two extra tanks with points to spare.

When it comes to Guard and upgrades, bring as many units as possible, than add extra upgrades. I personally don't believe in sponsons myself, particularly heavy bolter sponsons, and camo netting won't really do much as it only improves upon your cover save if you didn't move and have cover in the first place.

I'd highly recommend dropping all the sponsons and nets for two extra tanks and use the leftovers for ace skills or something similar.

Agree completely with this. Sponsons are cool in theory, but in the game they don't pan out that well unless you are stationary, which you shouldn't want to be! There are several reasons to keep your Tanks moving, better firing lanes, cover, etc., but one of the most important is to make sure that you don't get auto hit by anything in close combat. Embrace the old German Blitzkrieg, Lightning war it up!
I would definitely drop one of the Executioners for a Commissar Vanquisher , benefiting from that BS 4...Also, for (i think) only 10 points you can get the co-axial heavy stubber, which is one of the few upgrades I would recommend (allowing rerolled failed to hits with the big gun is fantastic, of course you have to hit with the stubber...)
CCS Vanquisher with Co-axial Heavy Stubber
Commissar Vanquisher w/ co-axial Heavy Stubber
Leman Russ Executioner x1
Leman Russ MBT x 4
Leman Russ Demolishers x 2 (personal preference, fills same roll as executioners though, and cheaper albeit less range, but remember Herr General, always forward!)
Hydras (recommended to fulfill the roll of your exterminators, at half the cost)

Ok got rid of the camo, added co-ax commissar vanquisher.
could trade the Exterminators with hydras brilliant idea.
sponsons on the lrbt and executioner however; i really like the idea of 5 plasma blast per tank, but because of the 36 inch range they would half to be moving to get close so wouldn't be always able to fire. The lrbt however can fire anywhere so don't need to move so sponsons would make more sense and would still be relatively cheep butt, would they be worth it is the question and the dakites says no. not to keen on demolisher's, i can see were you coming from, the power is high and so can take out just about anything amour or not, but the range isnt great but considering them, also conquers as co-ax, cheep, and not to appalling.


HEAD QUARTERS-350pts
company command tank 175pts
vanquisher: Vanquisher battle cannon + co-ax heavy stubber

commisar tank-175pts
vanquisher: Vanquisher battle cannon + co-ax heavy stubber

ELITES-460pts
squadron command tank 230pts
executioner:executioner plasma cannon + sponson plasma cannon

squadron command tank 230pts
executioner:executioner plasma cannon + sponson plasma cannon

TROOPS-930pts
Leman russ 150pts
battle cannon

Leman russ 150pts
battle cannon

Leman russ 150pts
battle cannon

Leman russ 150pts
battle cannon

leman russ demolisher 165pts
demolisher siege cannon

leman russ demolisher 165pts
demolisher siege cannon

HEAVY SUPPORT-150pts
hydra flak tank 75pts
2 twin-linked hydra auto-canons

hydra flak tank 75pts
2 twin-linked hydra auto-canons

hydra flak tank 75pts
2 twin-linked hydra auto-canons

1965pts

45pts left....sponsons??

Use the 45pts left to give the units some Ace Crew upgrades. I recommend Ace Gunner (+1 AP) for the Vanquishers and possibly Battle Hardened Crew (Ignore Stunned on 4+) on some of the LRBT's.

The only issue that i can see right now with the list as it is, You need to have one Squadron command tank per every two troop choice tanks according to the Imperial Armor list.

stratassj wrote:The only issue that i can see right now with the list as it is, You need to have one Squadron command tank per every two troop choice tanks according to the Imperial Armor list.

Hmm, Think you might be looking at an older version of the rules? Maybe you are looking at the Apocalypse rules?

Imperial Armour released an update not too long ago:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/downloads/product/pdf/i/IA1update28AUG.pdf

sponsons on the lrbt and executioner however; i really like the idea of 5 plasma blast per tank, but because of the 36 inch range they would half to be moving to get close so wouldn't be always able to fire. The lrbt however can fire anywhere so don't need to move so sponsons would make more sense and would still be relatively cheep butt, would they be worth it is the question and the dakites says no. not to keen on demolisher's, i can see were you coming from, the power is high and so can take out just about anything amour or not, but the range isnt great but considering them, also conquers as co-ax, cheep, and not to appalling.

As per the Demolishers, Consider that if you move your Demo-Tanks 6" a turn with a 24" range on the (large blast- higher strength-same ap) cannon, your effective range is 30"...and its about 65 points cheaper.
Man, who doesn't like the idea of 5 Plasma Blasts per turn...And it works if you want to be sitting still, but a canny opponent will use it against you. 36" range Plasma Cannons < 48" Lascannon / Missile Launcher range, or = 36" dark lance range, but give it a chance and test it out! Hope that you melt plenty of baddies with it!

The last 45 points, I would do what Valkyrie Suggested, Giving both Vanquishers Ace Gunner (10 points a pop), and probably give your two executioners Battle Hardened crew.

Redsox84 wrote:

stratassj wrote:The only issue that i can see right now with the list as it is, You need to have one Squadron command tank per every two troop choice tanks according to the Imperial Armor list.

Hmm, Think you might be looking at an older version of the rules? Maybe you are looking at the Apocalypse rules?

Imperial Armour released an update not too long ago:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/downloads/product/pdf/i/IA1update28AUG.pdf

sponsons on the lrbt and executioner however; i really like the idea of 5 plasma blast per tank, but because of the 36 inch range they would half to be moving to get close so wouldn't be always able to fire. The lrbt however can fire anywhere so don't need to move so sponsons would make more sense and would still be relatively cheep butt, would they be worth it is the question and the dakites says no. not to keen on demolisher's, i can see were you coming from, the power is high and so can take out just about anything amour or not, but the range isnt great but considering them, also conquers as co-ax, cheep, and not to appalling.

As per the Demolishers, Consider that if you move your Demo-Tanks 6" a turn with a 24" range on the (large blast- higher strength-same ap) cannon, your effective range is 30"...and its about 65 points cheaper.
Man, who doesn't like the idea of 5 Plasma Blasts per turn...And it works if you want to be sitting still, but a canny opponent will use it against you. 36" range Plasma Cannons < 48" Lascannon / Missile Launcher range, or = 36" dark lance range, but give it a chance and test it out! Hope that you melt plenty of baddies with it!

The last 45 points, I would do what Valkyrie Suggested, Giving both Vanquishers Ace Gunner (10 points a pop), and probably give your two executioners Battle Hardened crew.

yes this is the version i have, i just didn't realize i could buy the tank ace skills, rather stupid of me if i'm honest.
Also are you sure i have to have a command tank for every 2 troop choices, however its no problem as there is a elite slot free
thanks for all your help everyone!!!

Looking at that PDF, i cant see anywhere that it says you need to take a command tank per every two troop choices. I know that in IA:1 they said you needed too, and the IA:7 Kreig tank company has the same restrictions on it, of needing the one per every two.. so i want to say that the list still requires the tank.

stratassj wrote:Looking at that PDF, i cant see anywhere that it says you need to take a command tank per every two troop choices. I know that in IA:1 they said you needed too, and the IA:7 Kreig tank company has the same restrictions on it, of needing the one per every two.. so i want to say that the list still requires the tank.

Cool, like i say i can just move a troop choice to an elite choice, no extra cost, fulfills the criteria, Wham-bam, thankyou mam.