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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 13:59:24
Subject: competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Kabalite Conscript
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E 1500 anti tank- 15
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Archon + PGL=85
ELITES
7 incubi raider flicker -70+154=224
FAST ATTACK
6x reaver + 2 blaster=162
TROOPS
5warriors venom + splinter + blaster=125
5warriors venom + splinter + blaster=125
8 wych hekatrix agoniser, impaler -152 + raider flicker=190
9 wych hekatrix agoniser,hydra -152 + raider flicker=200
HEAVY SUPPORT
Razorwing-flciker-155
2x revager flicker -230
archon goes with incubi...razorwing can deep strike or go to reserves to not to be shot on and release all the missiles.....should i get some other missiles btw? and reavers just go, smite those infantries and/or bust some tanks
comments and critics are more than appreciated...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 17:09:17
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Your archon needs a shadow field and agonizer if he's going with the incubi, I'd drop the special weapons from the wyches and make both 7 strong to get this is in
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 18:14:01
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Kabalite Conscript
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Ye i wanted archon as cheap as possible just to assault with squad into that cover...any other ideas how to upgrade this list?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 18:32:21
Subject: competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Been Around the Block
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I find myself pretty confortable with this list, and I think it's a good anti-tank one. But, I have to warn you, I prefer Wracks to Incubi.
HQ:
Haemonculus + Liquifier Gun + ScissorHand
Haemonculus + Liquifier Gun + ScissorHand
Elites:
4 Kabalite Trueborn + 4 Blasters; Raider+ Flickerfield
4 Kabalite Trueborn + 4 Blasters; Raider+ Flickerfield
Troops:
10 Kabalite Warriors + Blaster + Splinter Cannon; Raider + Flickerfield
10 Kabalite Warriors + Blaster + Splinter Cannon; Raider + Flickerfield
5 Wracks + Liquifier Gun; Venom + Flickerfield + Splinter Cannon
5 Wracks + Liquifier Gun; Venom + Flickerfield + Splinter Cannon
Heavy Support:
Ravager + Flickerfield + NightShield
Ravager + Flickerfield + NightShield
Ravager + Flickerfield + NightShield
As you can see, it has: target saturation, transport stunning capabilities, a good mobility, anti-tank, assault units (Wracks + Haemunculus are 2 Liquifier gun and 2 Pain Tokens!) and scoring units. Hope this helped you (even if it's without Incubi ^^).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 18:51:36
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Kabalite Conscript
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Thank you, i appreciate it, but i wanted CC oriented list and ur is just all dakka (dont know about those wracks) i see ur list like a modification of venom spam- i know its competitive but not my style, i see venoms all over the place
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 20:47:57
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Well since you're running the Archon with the Incubi i'd really cut back on some Incubi models. 7 and an Archon is really too killy and you'll be out of assault first round. I would suggest you drop the Incubi to 5 models and with the points from that give the Archon an Agoniser and Shadow Field. Although im not going to lie, if you want a more competitive list drop the Archon and switch him with 2 Haemies
w/Liquifier Guns. They'll make you're Wyches A LOT more survivable. Then if you do that make the Incubi about 6 models. Dark Eldar dont like sinking to much points into one unit, we're to fragile for that.
Also i've learned this in the past, always give your Wyches Haywire Grenades. They need them more than they would need a Wych Weapon.
If you need points to make upgrades i's suggest maybe dropping the Reavers to 3 models with a blaster. They can still act as a good harassment unit and probably blow up a vehicle because they're so small the opponent might just ignore them for a bit. But for them Heat Lance has always managed to work best for me, 18" AP1 Lance and Melta for less points? Yes please ^_^. Reason being is Reavers are so fast they have absolutely no problem getting with 9" of a vehicle. First turn turbo boost them near the enemy vehicle but be sure to stay about 18" away and behind something were they cant be shot or assaulted, turn 2 fly out and bye bye vehicle (unless you get unlucky and miss of course xD).......but then they'll most likely die but they served they're purpose  . But make sure to aim for a big vehicle lol
I hope this helps you some
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 20:59:22
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Kabalite Conscript
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How about dropping razorwing, get ravager, drop archon, get heamies , and get haywires?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 21:08:03
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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That sounds like it would work pretty well. I like it! Lol
I actually didn't even notice the Razorwing, i thought you said 3 Ravagers  My bad.
But i'd say give that a try!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/27 21:12:53
Subject: Re:competitive DE - NEED HELP HERE
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Kabalite Conscript
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Now last question...should i get heamie to wyches or one to wyches and one to incubi? coz i know incubi gonna suffer not having those granades
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