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Out of the Major regiments who would be the winner of a regiment free-for-all
Cadia
Vahallan
Tallaran
Krieg
Catchan

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I want to see what the dakka community thinks about which regiment would win a standard regiment on a temprate multiple environment planet much like earth who would win each planet sends one regiment.

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If I remember right, Krieg regiments are significantly larger than all the others you name, so sheet weight of numbers would favour them.

If you adjusted the numbers so that they had about equal forces, guess it depends on the terrain. Earth-like environments would probably favour the Cadians most of the time.

   
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I'm gonna say krieg because of the absurdly large size of rheir siege regiments.
But on an even numbers, I'd say probably cadian, except when facing off against the other forces in their favoured terrain.

If numbers are even...
Cadian
Catachan or Tallarn
Valhallan
Krieg

I pace valhallan above krieg, as although they favor human wave tactics, they would have an edge in arctic/extreme cold environments.

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Guelph Ontario

The Cadians, The Krieg corps, and the Kauravan Conservators post Soulstorm.

Cadians: Mess with the Best, die like the Rest.

Krieg: Most planets raise one regiment every ten years. Krieg raises ten regiments each year.

Kauravans: BAAAAAANEBLAAAAAAAADES!

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Cadians , they have a much higher training standard the most other Guard units , they specialize in Marksmen ship , discipline and urban combat( Cadian Blood , Warden CPT Thade comments on this ) But with Cadians and kreig you don't retreat , the famous Cadian motto " Never Retreat , Never Surrender , Never outnumbered , Never Outgunned ! ". Where as the Kreig is don't think know the meaning of the word " retreat " Over all with Equal regiment sizes I would lean heavily in favor of the Cadians because they have imagination as opposed to the kreig who are more like the Necrons then anyone ( Dead men Walking )

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In terms of capability, the Cadians.

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I favor the Vahallans because if they could get their forces to the tundra areas and frozen wastelands they could build defenses that will give them the home field advantage

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Still, this is a flat land with no geographical advantages to either side. So that would put certain regiments at a disadvantage, since it takes them out of their area of expertise.

The Valhallan, Tallarn and Catachan regiments will lose to the more conventional guard regiments due to the terrain conflicting with their combat doctrine.

Tallarn are desert raiders specializing in ambushes, using the dunes for cover.

Catachans are jungle fighters, again, ambush

Valhallans would fare better, but their mobility is dependent on getting the drop on the enemy via drill tank.

This terrain is ideally suited for Cadians, Steel Legionnaires, and Krieg regiments. I think that the Steel Legion would make the best use of the terrain, as it would allow them to launch their blitzkrieg tactics.

Cadians are general purpose troops, and Krieg is a trench fighting regiment, fighting in a region with little cover or natural barriers to form fortifications.

So Steel Legion.

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The ridiculously huge size of Kreig regiments should take this for them.

It might be the only time we see Cadian lasguns run out of ammo.

EDIT:

It also depends on the regiment. For example, one of the Cadian superheavy tank units would beat all the others if they were infantry units, whereas a Kreig armored company could shred a Cadian shock infantry unit, for example.

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That, or against Tyranids.

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No Mordian Iron Guard or Praetorians? Or Vostroyans? Or Tanith? That list feels a mite incomplete...

 
   
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Well I migth be a bit biased but I dare say Krieg followed by Cadians due to their sheer determination and lack of will to give ground.
   
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Cadians but I love the Chatchans though.

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 Trondheim wrote:
Well I migth be a bit biased but I dare say Krieg followed by Cadians due to their sheer determination and lack of will to give ground.

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Tallarns..... Hit and run tactics have been very favorable throughout earths history even against larger enemies like the kreig they would have a pretty good time of it, earth has lots of hiding places for them to retreat to. Catachans are number two... Hiding in vast track of jungle like the amazon they would obliterate regiments trying to get to them. Cadians third as they are the best all arounders. Kreig and Valhallans rate last as there are few places where they could gain advantages from their special skills

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Given that the Departmento Munitorum classifies a regiment's size as "roughly equal in power", the only thing I could go by are each regiment's unique perks ...

As much as I dislike it (guess they're just too "normal" for me to root for), I'd have to say Cadia, simply because their tactics would allow them to catch their opponents off-guard and better exploit advantages.

I mean, really, Valhallans and Krieg will just waste wave upon wave of their troops, and Tallarn as well as Catachans are too specialised for a specific environment to get bonus points in the "multi role" department.
   
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 Lynata wrote:

I mean, really, Valhallans and Krieg will just waste wave upon wave of their troops, and Tallarn as well as Catachans are too specialised for a specific environment to get bonus points in the "multi role" department.


Just from the Krieg perspective - a wave of men dead is not a waste. It is the necessary price to be paid in the inevitable victory.
   
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Unit1126PLL wrote:Just from the Krieg perspective - a wave of men dead is not a waste. It is the necessary price to be paid in the inevitable victory.
Hey, I'm totally a fan of the Valhallans, so I can relate to that perspective well.

Just saying that, ultimately, "paying too much" can mean an early end to a campaign.
   
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I also still think it depends on what kind of regiment. Infantry vs Armor vs Siege vs Rough-Rider vs Storm Trooper (/Kasrkin) vs Mechanized.....among others (airborne).
   
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Im talking all are blank infantry regiments you know the normral infantry

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Probably Krieg. Their standard tactica can be applied in all climates of a earthlike planet. And it is not only about "wave after wave assults". The soldiers of krieg can wait, fighting a war in the trenches for years, decades, only to make a full assault when the time is right - And total victory certain.

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 Lord General Cheese wrote:
Im talking all are blank infantry regiments you know the normral infantry


In that case, Kreig takes this, as their Infantry regiments have intrinsic artillery and tank support, whereas the standard Imperial infantry regiment (read: Cadians, etc) must get their artillery as an attachment from an Emperor's Hammer Artillery or Emperor's Fist/Lance Tank regiment.

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Unit he says normal infantry...... that means yknow... normal infantry no tanks no planes just infantry

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 Somedude593 wrote:
Unit he says normal infantry...... that means yknow... normal infantry no tanks no planes just infantry


Except that "normal infantry" for Krieg includes artillery and tanks, otherwise their entire plan of attrition falls apart and you're unfairly gimping them. Their tactics, fighting style, unit training, coherency, command and control, literally everything is based around having access to integral tank and (especially) artillery units.

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Well then by that logic all the other regiments were gimped in the first place

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Pfft, why even bother asking? Is it not specifically stated that the Cadians are the best?

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Krieg! What a hole...

Krieg and Cadia tied. Vote for Krieg 'cause that's where my heart belong

One advantage they over all the other 3 regiments, they can field their own Stormtroopers and equivalents, in an all out infantry fight, that's a big advantage.

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