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Can i make a custom space wolves chapter with custom colours?

i want to make green space wolves from an planet that has a lot of trees and is a kind of a jungle.

also i need an name for the wolves :p

so let me know what you guys think!

Yes and Jungle wolves boom bam done

Fluffwise it doesn't stand up but its your army bro do what you want them......Sons of Lupa (the she-wolf that raised Romulus and Remus in Roman Mythology)

I vaguely recall something about GW's fluff mentioning something along the lines of all attempts at creating a Successor Chapter to the Space Wolves having failed badly, likely due to their flawed geneseed.

However, I think it was never actually defined how that "failure" looked like (making it a matter of interpretation), nor when exactly these attempts were made (you could simply play your army as a freshly created Chapter in earlier time, and explain its existence by stating that they only existed for a couple centuries and are not around anymore in M41).

Or you could simply do what Tiarna said and disregard this detail in GW's fluff. Even lots of licensed novels and RPGs continuously take much artistic license from the original material, and as Gav Thorpe once said you as a gamer are intended to "take possession" of the setting and make it your own anyways.

My Space Wolves are black and red, but the task of giving them fluff that doesn't all over canon is pretty much impossible so I don't even bother explaining the inconsistency.

If you want green Space Wolves then go for it. Just be prepared to constantly say "No they are not Salamanders/Dark Angels, they are Space Wolves."

The space wolves only ever had 1 successor chapter the wolf brothers, and after that ended badly they never tried again.

Russ never had the most stable of gene seeds to begin with, it was never as prolific as Guilliman's, there were plans detailed in the battle of the fang novel to fix this but the thousand sons put a stop to it.

TheMadHunterHD wrote:
Can i make a custom space wolves chapter with custom colours?

i want to make green space wolves from an planet that has a lot of trees and is a kind of a jungle.

also i need an name for the wolves :p

so let me know what you guys think!

Do what ever you want with your minis, as long as you are up front before the game that the force uses the space wolves codex. Some people will complain that fluffwise there are no Space wolf successor chapters, but so what. You want green space wolves that live on a jungle planet then do that with your figs.

Skriker

I've always thought the Imperium was a pretty big place with a not particularly good way of keeping records on things so sure, it's possible.

I mean, there are whole foundings with lost records. While the Space Wolves are only listed to have one successor, it wouldn't surprise me if it was wrong.

Call them Gaia's Chosen.

The First Founding is fairly well documented.
It's also noted that the SW have only ever had 1 successor.
That and it'd be obvious is the SW had a successor they didn't know about...
The fangs and such are kind of a give away.

 purplefood wrote:
The First Founding is fairly well documented.
It's also noted that the SW have only ever had 1 successor.
That and it'd be obvious is the SW had a successor they didn't know about...
The fangs and such are kind of a give away.

Dude there have been lost BA successors. The Imperium is a fethwit about that stuff

 TheAngrySquig wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
The First Founding is fairly well documented.
It's also noted that the SW have only ever had 1 successor.
That and it'd be obvious is the SW had a successor they didn't know about...
The fangs and such are kind of a give away.

Dude there have been lost BA successors. The Imperium is a fethwit about that stuff

The Adeptus Mechanicus has also had some fun trying to splice various gene-seeds as well...

The Lamenters for example while considered a Blood Angels successor, are rumored to have been created using both Blood Angel and Dark Angel gene-seed as an experiment to weed out the known deficiences in both those otherwise stable gene-seeds.
The Blood Ravens have long been thought to have at least partial Thousand Sons gene-seed due to their far higher proportion of powerful Librarians.

Just say your Green/Jungle Wolves are from the 13th 'Dark Founding' or 21st 'Cursed Founding' since almost all records of those foundings have been destroyed/lost. And ignore the background zealots who say you're doing it wrong!

If you care what other people think, call them Space Wolves and say they're just using green paint for a jungle mission.

If you don't care what other people think, do whatever you want and go crazy with your custom Space Wolf successor.

Green Space Wolves are fine. You can't really argue that without being a douche. Space Wolf successors might raise some eyebrows. Most people are much nicer IRL than online so it shouldn't be a problem.

Another option is that they could be a lost company that wound up on a jungle world and chose to change their paint scheme to blend in with their surroundings. It's well documented that Space Wolf companies who disagree with the Great Wolf will leave Fenris and setup elsewhere. It's a fairly simple jump to assume they might adjust their colour scheme to match their new home.

This article on B&C pretty much sums it up.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?autocom=ineo&showarticle=178

Particularly the ending statement...

The Space Wolves are an idiosyncratic and independent chapter, and one of the things that makes them different from the other first founders is precisely that they don’t have any known surviving successors. Despite this, it is not to say that with originality and creativity that you can’t create something that is both believable within the bounds of established GW background, and has the ’wolfy’ flavour that you are after.

Just because you use space wolves rules doesn't mean the chapter is necessarily a SW successor. It's not entirely inconceivable that an ultramarines successor that had a core of like-minded and charismatic leaders could develop a command structure and combat doctrine similar to that of the space wolves.

The main thing to remember is that the bulk of space marine chapters operate with pretty minimal oversight. And even then, it often takes an act of outright heresy to provoke a response from the powers-that-be.

Space marines dont typically repaint their armour to suit the environment they fight in, there's even a space wolf book where ragnar and the wolf blades go to a jungle world and fight some dark angels, they quite happily strode through the jungle in their grey plate.

Hey, do whatever makes you happy. Now, this is coming from a guy who has a mixed Space Wolf / Thousand Son army painted red and silver, so I'm hardly a staunch defender of canon, but they're your toys, bought with your money, and painted with your time. Do whatever makes you happy. If you play with some hardcore fluff bandits you may not really enjoy your army much, but I've found that most of the people I play with aren't too uptight about things.

Do what you want. Others will just have to deal.

So long as you're fine with forever being named a heretic - go ahead

Then again, Space Wolves are borderline heretics as it is, what with their disregarding of the Codex Astartes and their constant defacing of the Aquila. I'd bet they even worship their own pack leaders more often than they do the Emperor.

Paint them whatever colour you wish, the Inquisition will root you out.

Instead of successor chapters, they just keep cranking out Great Companies (who often have different armour color schemes). Just say its a "Lost Great Company" that has returned, and during their time away, they decided to paint their armour green due to some rune priest ritual or whatever.

 Skriker wrote:

TheMadHunterHD wrote:
Can i make a custom space wolves chapter with custom colours?

i want to make green space wolves from an planet that has a lot of trees and is a kind of a jungle.

also i need an name for the wolves :p

so let me know what you guys think!

Do what ever you want with your minis, as long as you are up front before the game that the force uses the space wolves codex. Some people will complain that fluffwise there are no Space wolf successor chapters, but so what. You want green space wolves that live on a jungle planet then do that with your figs.

Skriker

Or you could be polite to people who enjoy the setting of the game we play. Its very easy, just make a chapter that has no connection to the space wolves and does not share geneseed, they just fight inba similar manner. They live on a jungle feral world and ride giant raptors instead of wolfs, were raptor horns instead of wolf totems and have raptor scale cloaks instead of furs.

Personally i found a fantasic vj grey combined with the gw black wash makes em money. only downside people always ask what they are so unless you are doing that ugly baby blue on em you will most likely get asked what they are.

Paint em green tell your opponent that your wolf lord had planned for a tropical campaign in the jungles with the catachans boom done explanation.

call em the bio wolves? or the green thumbs. :-P

It's your money and your time. Do whatever you like!

Space marines dont typically repaint their armour to suit the environment they fight in, there's even a space wolf book where ragnar and the wolf blades go to a jungle world and fight some dark angels, they quite happily strode through the jungle in their grey plate.

Actually back in the Rogue Trader (1st ed) days, Marines often painted their armor to match their current war-zone, with illustrated examples.

Plus like it's been said before, you can go hog wild as long as you stick with the codex that they are legally representing, and announce it to your opponent clearly. It's your money, time and effort!

There's the two entirely unrecorded original chapters, plus the Dark and Cursed foundings that you can claim they hail from, as well as Space Wolf companies away from Fenris. Hell, I can use the current Space Wolf codex to represent my 13th Company army when I need them to be up-to-date and follow 6e rules, and they are normal codex-grey armor with repairs made from parts stripped from obvious Chaos marine armor (primarily Black Legion) on the battlefield.

Actually it says in the Space Wolves Codex that there have been great companies (about 200 or less guys per ) that have gone renegade from the chapter in its history. Examples cited are that the Wolf Lord of a company could have had a bad disagreement with a new Great Wolf of the chapter and have taken off on their own. You might consider this as a basis?

 Zakiriel wrote:
Actually it says in the Space Wolves Codex that there have been great companies (about 200 or less guys per ) that have gone renegade from the chapter in its history. Examples cited are that the Wolf Lord of a company could have had a bad disagreement with a new Great Wolf of the chapter and have taken off on their own. You might consider this as a basis?

Oh really? I'm going to have to go over the codex and look for that, could be good reading.

I have to fix the source i cited for the information on space wolves lost companies.
Rather than it being their codex, the information comes from White Dwarf 245 pg 38-39 and White Dwarf 246 pg 85.

Its been stated that due to their uncooperative attitude with the Adeptus Terra and difficult gene-seed, the Space Wolves only real successor has been the Wolf Brothers which didnt meet with a good fate.

That being said there's always wiggle room in 40k to make just about any fluff scenario you want so go for it.