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I think it would be cool to bring back the old Skar Boyz. There is a brief mention of them in the Ork codex under nobz but its quite brief and kind of makes out that they are just nobs. However I think it would be cool to bring them back in a different kind of form here it is

Elite-
A mob can consist of between 5-15 Skarboys at 10pts each

The Stats are the same as a normal boy and the nob the same as a normal nob
Wargear:
Slugga, Big Choppa and Stikkbombs

One of the boys can upgraded to a nob for 10pts
he may exchange his Big Choppa for a PK at 20pts
he may take any of the following
eavy armour 5pts
boss pole 5pts
waaagh banner 15pts

So basicly they are like regular slugga boys that for go massed amout of attacks for higher strength out put what does everyone think

Make it 15 points each elite ..Shoota + Big Choppa ..
WS 4, BS 2, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 3, A 2, Ld 7, Sv 4+

up to 3 Skar Boyz (1 in 5) can swap their Big Choopa and Shoota for Burna +10 each

One Boy Must be upgraded to Nob +10
(Use Nob Stat Line)
Swap Big Choppa for PK, +20
Boss Pole +5
Waagh Banner +15

Unit May have up to 3 Ammo runts at +5 each


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Makes them not quite a nob ..but more than a boy

In the old 3rd ed book, Skarboys were 11pts

WS 4, BS 2, S 4, T 3, W 1, I 2, A 2, Ld 7, Sv 6+

with 5 - 20 guys and 3 boys could get a big shoota, rokkit or burna. The 1 higher strength was all that differentiated them from normal boys. I think what you've got could be a bit too good for 10pts. On a charge with 20, you could potentially have 60 S6 attacks which would absolutely mince anything (...well alot).

I think morfydds suggestion is mostly fair, 5pts more for another initiative, strength. But I would probably loose the shoota or make it an either or situation with the big choppa. Otherwise they would be too good at all fields. As it stands a regular nob with a big choppa and shoota is 30pts. Thats 15pts more than the skarboy for an extra wound and attack.

So same statline and cost as morfydd, but with only a big choppa and slugga. Then they can take up to 3 big shootas, rokkits or burnas at normal costs plus the other upgrades.

I like the morfydd Idea, but I would make the eavy armour optional: 11 points base, +4 points to get eavy armour...

Well the reason I only made them 10 points was becauae a normal Big Choppa is only 5pts and the nob the weilds it has +1 Strength, Attack and Initiative. So a normal boy plus 5 points for the Big Choppa would be 11pts. I dropped a single point for the inferior stats. Keep in mind that a Big Choppa is a two handed weapon so he would only get the same amount of attacks on the charge as a shoota boys

Generaly though all Ork Specialists are really good at one thing. They do that one thing really well. This unit ia desiged to hit hardee in combat than a regualer biy but still suffer from the same weakness

I am liking this idea ..hmmn
mabey tone it down my initial suggestion a tad thou

12 points each TROOP ..Slugga + Big Choppa , Stikbombz..

WS 4, BS 2, S 4, T 4, W 1, I 3, A 2, Ld 7, Sv 5+

upgrade to ard 3 pts per model (5+ to 4+ sv)
up to 3 may trade in their Big Choppa and Slugga for
(Big Shoota 5, Rokkit 10, Burna 15)
5 to 20 Skars per group
One Boy Must be upgraded to Nob +10
(Use Nob Stat Line)

Swap Big Choppa for PK, +20
Boss Pole +5
Waagh Banner +15

Unit May have up to 3 Ammo runts at +5 each

May take a Battle Wagon as a dedicated transport..for groups of 12 or less may take a trukk instead

As the new books seem to be going the way of Purchased Special Rules I propose this


Unit X upgraded to be Skarboys gain +1 Str and A.

 Deadshot wrote:
As the new books seem to be going the way of Purchased Special Rules I propose this


Unit X upgraded to be Skarboys gain +1 Str and A.

S5 A3 Boyz.... Sounds pretty epic.

And its is intended as an armywide option like Veterans of the Long War is. So a Warboss or Nob could buy it. Obviously special characters like Ghraz would come standard.

 Deadshot wrote:
And its is intended as an armywide option like Veterans of the Long War is. So a Warboss or Nob could buy it. Obviously special characters like Ghraz would come standard.

That actually could be really cool if implemented.

hmmn workable..very workable..depending on the cost ..( to much and its a waste ..to little and its cheeze)
3 pts? we know that 4 points for ard gets left in the dirt a lot
ie to costly for the return ...
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Why bother give them big choppas when they allready have a +1 str? They could be boys with +1 initiative and bigchoppas (str5 per boy)

We've already added them to the codex (along with a few other minor things):

Skar Boyz (10 points each) 5-20 per mob; WS:4, BS:2, S:4, T:4, W:1, I:2, A:2, Ld:7, Sv:6+
Counts as an Elite option on the FOC.
Wargear: slugga & choppa
Options: any model may exchange its slugga & choppa for a shoota (+1 point) or a big choppa (+5 points)
Additionally, up to two models may swap the slugga & choppa for any of the following:
Big Shoota - 5 points
Rokkit Launcha -10 points
Burna - 10 points
Dedicated Transport may be either a Trukk or a Looted Vehicle.

Have there been any thoughts on a HQ option that allows them to be Troops? Like Ghaz (Which is like a throwback to 3rd edition, right?)

I've always thought of skarboyz as more of a nob upgrade. Something like upgrading T4 to T4(5). Keep it cheap too, since it would have to act as a squad upgrade pretty much.