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So I've got no idea what IP rights FFG has for xwing but wondering what ships people think will be released in the future? Any wish list stuff? Do we think the game will ever expand outside of Rebels and Imperials? Maybe bring in a 3rd faction?

I had expected FFG would stick to a small amount of ships but with the extreme success of the game I cant imagine FFG would look away from a major revenue source

Unless they do a parallel line of games, they're kind of stuck in this time period. You can't have stuff from the Clone Wars because it wouldn't be technically up to snuff against Rebellion Era ships.

And even if FFG does a Clone Wars game, I wonder what kind of stat differences there could be between -- for example -- a Delta 7 Aethersrpite and an Eta-2 Actis. Don't get me wrong, I really like the PT ships.

 Manchu wrote:
Unless they do a parallel line of games, they're kind of stuck in this time period. You can't have stuff from the Clone Wars because it wouldn't be technically up to snuff against Rebellion Era ships.

And even if FFG does a Clone Wars game, I wonder what kind of stat differences there could be between -- for example -- a Delta 7 Aethersrpite and an Eta-2 Actis. Don't get me wrong, I really like the PT ships.

I wouldn't quite say that... most of the advances in starship technology in Star Wars seem to have come in capital ships (if you compare prequel to original, the ships have become larger, often by an order of magnitude and are much more heavily armed, etc.) whereas the starfighter designs have varied but seem to have remained relatively constant in terms of relative capabilities.

Nah, that's incorrect. The Z-95 is an excellent example.

So Manchu do you expect X-Wing to have a point where they have exhausted all the rebellion era ships? I've not read any of the star wars fiction so my knowledge is limited to the movies. Does the official fiction have a large variety of ships in it? Or is it limited and would thus mean that FFG would quickly run out of stuff?

Also do you think FFG would ever put out random merc ships?

T-16's and Snowspeeders? (Although those seem to be more atmospheric-flight ships, rather than space-flight).

 ironicsilence wrote:
So Manchu do you expect X-Wing to have a point where they have exhausted all the rebellion era ships?

Well, there's only so many of them. I kind of agree with something Tom said (I think it was Tom) in another thread, that FFG could just make stuff up. It's not like it would be any more or less valid than the EU stuff that already exists -- and it's a good bet that it will at least look better than some of the EU stuff. Ultimately, I think the X-Wing line will come to an end and be replaced by a ground-based SW miniatures game.

 ironicsilence wrote:
Also do you think FFG would ever put out random merc ships?

They already have -- the Slave I. Now are you really asking do I think they will do a third faction? I kind of hope so but I'm not holding my breath. On the RPG side of things, they seem to like the Black Sun a lot.

 Jin wrote:
T-16's and Snowspeeders? (Although those seem to be more atmospheric-flight ships, rather than space-flight).

Yeah, they're both airspeeders and would not work in space.

yeah they have put out slave 1 but there are plenty of mercs in the verse other then Fett, cant imagine they all fly a Slave 1

They sure don't. What I meant was FFG have already done one merc ship so why not others? The trouble is Fett isn't truly "mercenary" in that the Rebels cannot hire him as well. It's an issue of ethics, I suppose.

 Manchu wrote:
Nah, that's incorrect. The Z-95 is an excellent example.

You mean the Z-95 that continued to be used well after the fall of the Republic as a staple element in private fleets the galaxy over? That Z-95? Uh huh...

In an isolated system that is a good point, but taking into account the various other ships it served alongside you see that the difference that existed and the design evolution wasnt so much one of capability but of role, and for the most part the difference in capabilities between the prequel and original trilogy eras exist as a result of a change in way the starfighters were employed and the doctrine used to develop them.To illustrate, while the Z-95 would be at a huge disadvantage relative to an x-wing, id say that it would still put up a great fight against a tie fighter. While it would have a speed and maneuverability disadvantage it would have an advantage in durability and firepower.

Then again, those are the same advantages possessed by an xwing so i dont know if thats saying much, but the point is that in relative terms, some original era fighters, like a lot of the tie series, were a step backwards in some ways, and in other ways a step forward, meaning that they should be relatovely balanced.

chaos0xomega wrote:
You mean the Z-95 that continued to be used well after the fall of the Republic as a staple element in private fleets the galaxy over? That Z-95?

Yep, that Z-95:

Wookiepedia wrote:Though the Z-95 still enjoyed considerable use in the years following the establishment of the New Republic, it was clearly outclassed by fighters developed in the decades since its original release. When compared to the T-65, it was slower, less maneuverable, had lighter armor and shielding, and was not as heavily armed.

And as you pointed out, the Z-95 is the most resilient design. So ... okay for pirates and local police but as we all know it couldn't cut it in the Galactic Civil War. What does that say about other PT era ships? Not much.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Then again, those are the same advantages possessed by an xwing so i dont know if thats saying much

I want and have wanted for a long time a Z-95 from FFG to be the Rebels' swarm fighter.

And then you have things like the Y-wing which was a GCW era design and it was outclassed by its contemporaries, not to mention that it was also outclassed by the ARC-170 which it (in part) replaced...

The Y-Wing was actually originally designed during the Clone Wars. The ship we see in A New Hope was a late-model variant, the BTL-S3, and yes indeed it was already outmoded as a space superiority fighter by then thanks to the X-Wing. But then again, the BTL-Bs weren't as good in that role as ARC-170s. As a bomber, the Y-Wing was entirely outmoded by the B-Wing but stayed in service flying support for X-Wing units just like at Yavin. Not sure where you got the idea the BTLs were supposed to replace ARC-170s.

I choose to ignore that retcon on the y-wings history ;P.

I'm hoping to see the Z-95 and the Cloakshape Fighter.

I'd like to see the Z95, the Skipray, the Delta Stormtrooper transport, the Assault Transport, Assault Gunboats (which would be an instant 3-purchase ship; I don't care if they're $30), the TIE Avenger (yes I know we have the Advanced which is largely the same but I like the different wings) and if we're willing to step a bit further away from the GCW, the E-Wing.

I wouldn't mind them including "dual-faction" ships either such as the transport or corvette which was used by both sides during the GCW. Not sure I'd like a third faction but I can't say I wouldn't like one either.

I second the assault gunboat. If they got them I would buy in, they have done the rebel fighters that I like, but I have never liked the TIE series and that is keeping me out for right now (besides not have money right now).

My wishlist is short and simple:
ARC-170 (should be dual faction IMO)
K-Wing
Chiss Clawcraft

I feel as though they will keep building in line with what they currently have imperial vs Rebels.

Another Expansion might include Dash Rendar ship The outrider.
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They might expand to Black Sun which offers tons of varied pilots and ships with modifications that normally wouldn't be on a Imperial or Rebel vessel. Not sure if they will do it before or after Prince Xizor . Which includes the Light and Heavy Fighter as well as a capital ship.


Then we also have the Yuuzhan Vong more of a leviathan living ship look With some odd weapons.

I was going to mention Clawcraft as well, plus if you look into the NJO era you get the StealthX, and possibly Vong stuff. Only problem with adding Vong is they only really have coralskippers, and that's not really enough for a faction.

The Tie Defender is a bit of a fan favourite, but game wise it's kind of redundant with the Tie Advanced; shielded, heavily armed tie fighter.

If they put the Yuuzhan Vong in, I'd crap myself with joy. Dash Rendar too, as well as IG88, Bossk, Dengar, and the rest of the BH crew. After that, it doesn't even matter what else shows up: it'll just be gravy on top.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
If they put the Yuuzhan Vong in, I'd crap myself with joy.

I'd crap you with sorrow. Those bug men do not feel very Star Wars to me. I intentionally missed out on that whole period of the EU. It was like a vastly extended midi chlorian moment.

Manchu, you missed out. The NJO series were some seriously good books.

I need to read the books as most of these ships are beyond me!

I'm surprised this classic hasn't been mentioned yet.

Missile boat?(Its very killy)Tartan class patrol cruisers?More dakka?

 Evil_Toast wrote:
I'm surprised this classic hasn't been mentioned yet.

I'd give just about anything for that model

I'm ok with it so long as there're maneuvers or actions that allow you to go to Plaid.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
The Tie Defender is a bit of a fan favourite, but game wise it's kind of redundant with the Tie Advanced; shielded, heavily armed tie fighter.

I think it wouldn't be redundant. Based on what I know of the TIE Defender, it would be more like a shielded interceptor. So 3 3 3 2 maybe. Price jump obviously for those shields. That's my take atleast.