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I made this conversion years ago, but of course there are no rules for a dread with TL plasma cannons so I decided to come up with some stats and fair and balanced points costs for the model to run a fluffy LoTD dread in friendly games.

I wanted to follow the LoTD theme from the new codex as closely as possible and create a unit that is incredibly tough to kill( because it's a Dread and it's a ghostly spectre) but balanced by points cost so it's not considered cheesy.

Damocles the Ancient
--------------------------------------------------[ Armour ]------------------------235 Points
-------------------------------WS---BS---S---F---S---R---I---A---HP-----------
---------------------------------5-----5----6---12-12--10--4--2----3------------

Wargear:
- Power fist with built in heavy flamer
- Twin linked plasma cannon
- Search light
- Smoke Launchers

Special rules
- Aid unlooked for
- Fear
- Flaming Projectiles
- Slow and Purposeful
- Unyielding Spectre (5++)
- Venerable
- It will not die

It's a venerable dread with a heavy flamer so that covers the base cost, I decided the TL plasma cannon should be 5 points more than a twin linked las cannon since it's a unique weapon. I added 80% to the base dreadnought cost for the extra LoTD and other special rules, +80% is relatively close close to what a LoTD marine pays for the special rules over a normal marine.

I decided to stick to special rules only available in the codex already and not give it any silly OTT powers to keep it balanced.

So what do you all think? Would you play against this in a friendly game or do you think it's undercosted/broken in any way and what would you suggest changing?

I'd ditch the 3++ save. I know it's in-line with the LotD but not even Bjorn, the oldest and most venerable Dread to date has a save like that.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I'd ditch the 3++ save. I know it's in-line with the LotD but not even Bjorn, the oldest and most venerable Dread to date has a save like that.

It's more to do with the immaterial nature of the LoTD dread than age or battle experience, as it doesn't truly exist in the same plane of reality as the foes attacking it, on the other hand 3++, IWND and Venerable may make it just stupidly tough to kill and too much for friendly games, do you think a 5++ in-line with that of contemptor dreads would be more reasonable or just scrap the save all together?

Yeah, 3++ is pretty hard to swallow for a dreadnought, it's unprecedented. A 5++ would be reasonable. I'd also up his FA to 13.

5++ would seem better. Like you said, a 3++, Venerable, and IWND is just insanely tough.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I'd ditch the 3++ save. I know it's in-line with the LotD but not even Bjorn, the oldest and most venerable Dread to date has a save like that.

This.

Kind of sick of all the unkillable snowflake characters out there, don't become one of them.

Okay, the general consensus is that a 5++ is reasonable so I'll stick with that and keep the points the same as before, it's still going to be tough to bring down but not as ridiculous.

As for AV 13 well it's a ven dread not an Ironclad so I feel the AV 12 should stay

Thanks for the input!

Now time to write some fluff for him!