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I've been reading some threads here and a few posters have alluded to some kind of failings / mistake on Mantics part.

Last I heard on them was 2 years ago and Kings of War was picking up steam. It seems their not-blood bowl game is very popular.

But one poster here made a comment along the lines of "hope they don't pull a Mantic". What was he talking about?

 Phobos wrote:
I've been reading some threads here and a few posters have alluded to some kind of failings / mistake on Mantics part.

Last I heard on them was 2 years ago and Kings of War was picking up steam. It seems their not-blood bowl game is very popular.

But one poster here made a comment along the lines of "hope they don't pull a Mantic". What was he talking about?

At a a guess?

Personal bias on the part of the poster. *Shrug*

Linking to the post might give you a better answer, but... there are some posters here that feel that Mantic can do no right and GW can do no wrong. (As well as folks that think GW can do no right, and Privateer can do no wrong, or.....)

The Auld Grump

"Pull a Mantic" probably refers to delivering poor product after a Kickstarter campaign. After the KoW KS, Mantic apparently hired a lot of "budget smart" sculptors and ended up with several duds, including their Men at Arms kit, possibly the worst set of polystyrene sprues you'll ever see.

It could also refer to Mantic using very nice concept art to sell Stretch Goals and add-ons during their campaign and then admittedly(!) giving the sculptors different concept art to work from, with the obvious results re: customer satisfaction.

Both of Mantics last two plastic sprues were released are extremely poor quality due to screw ups on the suppliers end, though Mantic still saw fit to release them. The Men At Arms in particular were a huge problem because many people had pre-ordered them in the kickstarter expecting at least reasonable quality, but nope! There were also a number of changes to kickstarter miniatures that weren't reflected in the concept art that polarised opinions such as the trolls being on tiny, spindly legs.

There are also a number of posters who troll Mantic threads and trying to make it look like there's more dislike for Mantic than there actually is. One in particular bought some Dreadball stuff, didn't like it and wanted a full refund. Mantic offered to exchange it for free, or to refund if he paid all the shipping charges. He now spends a ridiculous amount of time slagging Mantic off at every opportunity.

Mantic is always short of money and has no feedback loops to avoid mistakes, which happen a lot. They have a tendency to promise big and deliver awful.

Some examples:
1.) Complete Fantasy Elf range. First of several ranges with acceptable concept sketches and abyssmal models.
2.) Starting their 40k clone with a box of Fantasy sprues with only a few bionic eyes and guns added (Dwarf bodies still had chainmail and swords, all Orks barefoot with no pants).
3.) Collecting preorder money for their updated Fantasy rules, then a month or so later starting a kickstarter on it with reduced prices, ending on the day before promised release date. Promising a.o. to have all kickstarter supporter names in it, which obviously wasn't possible for the already completed first print and then delaying it for a future second print. The updated Fantasy rules were advertised as a new game on kickstarter BTW.
4.) Collecting kickstarter money mostly based on concept sketches and then delivering totally disproportioned men of arms and battle nuns.
5.) Making another kickstarter once kickstarter money is gone. Kickstarter after kickstarter plus no communication makes all German distributors goan and quit.
6.) Asking for feedback for concept models, then ignoring it and releasing the concept models (no money for a second sculpt).
7.) Claiming that they are not responsible for the crap they release.
8.) Many models have very odd proportions and odd poses. Few sculpts in regiments, lots of duplicates.
9.) Delivering boxes with many parts missing or exchanged for something else.

Some people like some models, but even the biggest fans acknowledge Mantic is doing many mistakes.

My apologies I forgot provide context. It seemed to be revolving around Kickstarter more or less to some degree, at least the post that I quoted was.

But thank you guys for the info!

 Phobos wrote:
I've been reading some threads here and a few posters have alluded to some kind of failings / mistake on Mantics part.

Last I heard on them was 2 years ago and Kings of War was picking up steam. It seems their not-blood bowl game is very popular.

But one poster here made a comment along the lines of "hope they don't pull a Mantic". What was he talking about?

Poor quality sculpts despite a large build up from a Kickstarter.

Edit: NINJA'D

 Kroothawk wrote:
Mantic is always short of money and has no feedback loops to avoid mistakes, which happen a lot. They have a tendency to promise big and deliver awful.

Some examples:
1.) Complete Fantasy Elf range. First of several ranges with acceptable concept sketches and abyssmal models.
2.) Starting their 40k clone with a box of Fantasy sprues with only a few bionic eyes and guns added (Dwarf bodies still had chainmail and swords, all Orks barefoot with no pants).
3.) Collecting preorder money for their updated Fantasy rules, then a month or so later starting a kickstarter on it with reduced prices, ending on the day before promised release date. Promising a.o. to have all kickstarter supporter names in it, which obviously wasn't possible for the already completed first print and then delaying it for a future second print. The updated Fantasy rules were advertised as a new game on kickstarter BTW.
4.) Collecting kickstarter money mostly based on concept sketches and then delivering totally disproportioned men of arms and battle nuns.
5.) Making another kickstarter once kickstarter money is gone. Kickstarter after kickstarter plus no communication makes all German distributors goan and quit.
6.) Asking for feedback for concept models, then ignoring it and releasing the concept models (no money for a second sculpt).
7.) Claiming that they are not responsible for the crap they release.
8.) Many models have very odd proportions and odd poses. Few sculpts in regiments, lots of duplicates.
9.) Delivering boxes with many parts missing or exchanged for something else.

Some people like some models, but even the biggest fans acknowledge Mantic is doing many mistakes.

Everyone, we've now seen into Kroothawk's mind! This must be his Christmas wishlist!


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By the way, nothing good will come of this thread, much like the "Why do GW models really blow nowadays" and "I can't believe GW charges so much for boxes full of hamfists!" threads. Perhaps a mod should lock this unless they really want a multipage thread on why some people like Mantic's elves and why some people don't, and then discussing delusions Kroothawk and nkelsch have about the physical world and how reality still doesn't quite jive with their views.

OP's question is answered.