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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 21:20:28
Subject: CSM 1850pts Need help
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Hellacious Havoc
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So I'll be playing in a friendly tournament in a week and i just wanted to fine tune my list a little and see what you guys have to say about it
HQ:
CSM Lord
Mark of Nurgle
Bike
The Black Mace .
Total= 145.
Sorcerer (WL).
MoT
plus one mastery level
Jump pack
sigil of corruption
The Dimensional Key
Total= 165.
Troop:
10 CSM
Power wepon
Flamers x2
Rhino + Havoc Launcher
total= 207.
10 Cultists
Flamer
total= 55.
Elites:
5 Plague Marines
2 Plasmaguns
Power Fist
total= 175.
Fast Attack:
4 Bikes 90pts.
Meltagun x2
total= 110.
Heldrake
Baleflamer
total= 170.
Raptors x10
melta x2
Total 200.
Heavy Support:
5 Havocs
4 Missile Launchers
flakk missiles
total= 175.
Defiler
power fist
power scourge
Total= 220.
Obliterator x3
MOT
Total 228.
Total: 1850.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 21:51:39
Subject: Re:CSM 1850pts Need help
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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When running a Chaos Lord with Mark of Nurgle your Plague Marines are Troops. This makes the Cultists rather unnecessary. They are a good meatshield for a land-walking HQ like a Warpsmith, but pretty much useless for anything else. Since Plague Marines are troops, I would run 3 Squads of them since you can get special weapons with only a 5-man squad. Drop the Cultists and CSM in favour of Plague Marines.
Who are you running the Sorcerer with, the bikes? If you are, then who does the Nurgle Chaos Lord on the bike join since MoN/MoT cannot join in the same unit? I would remove the Bike from the Nurgle Lord and put him in a Rhino with a Squad of Plague Marines and hope your opponent concentrates his fire on your Warlord.
Dimensional Key is a poor place to spend points. Invest those points elsewhere.
Drop the Raptors for another Heldrake. They are too easy to kill when you only run one of them. They always win back their points. Three is generally considered un-sportmanlike, but two is considered amazing bang for the buck.
5 Havocs with Flakk Missiles (which are only S7 Ap4) = 175. Ageis Defense Line with a Quad Gun which gets 4x TWIN-LINKED S7 Ap4 shots = 100 points. Better chance to hit, almost half the price. Should be a no-brainer.
I run my Oblits with MoN so they can't be insta-gibbed by STR8.
As always, just my 2ยข
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In the embrace of great Chaos, I am no longer afraid, for with its power and favor, I shall become the embodiment of that which I once most feared.....Death
Chaos Space Marines: W50, L23, D17
Warriors of Chaos: W15, L2, D0
CSM 6th Edition: W19, L6, D3
CSM 7th Edition: W17, L2, D2
Kill Team: W2, L0, D0 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 21:52:27
Subject: CSM 1850pts Need help
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Regular Dakkanaut
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1) Plauge marines are troops not elites due to the mark you gave your lord.
2) look at giving your bikers the mark of nurgle as there is a majority toughness rule (someone pointed this out to me earlier) so you will have a T5 lord.
3) Do not put your defiler into close combat, mine always gets broken by terminators, I give mine a havoc launcher and reaper auto.
I would go back with your army book and double check what you want to bring to the table. Automatically Appended Next Post: Mizziri he was probably going to put it with the raptors, but I agree drop them for a second heldrake.
Also add 1 more biker to give +1 reroll in your challanges for when your lord gets into Close combat.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/01/25 21:54:33
2000+ points, but I think I know how to use them
Bolt action, 1500 points BANZI
Dwarfs 2500+
Vampires 1000ish |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/25 22:02:46
Subject: CSM 1850pts Need help
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
South East England
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It's generally a good looking list, but I can find a few things to tighten it up. Get rid of the Defiler; the only thing it defiles is it's own self worth. Replace it with a Havoc squad like you already have. With the Oblitz, the invuln save hardly matters; instead, MoN. I'd also rip the plague marines out, they aren't worth it in the Elite slot.And, if you want to make a Sorcerer deathstar, use this loadout:
*Sorcerer (180pts)
2x Additional Mastery Level, Jump Pack, Mark of Slaanesh, Sigil of corruption, Spell familiar
* Power Armour
Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon
*Raptors (250pts)
(Fear)
Icon of Excess, Mark of Slaanesh, 2x Meltagun, 9x Raptors
* Raptor Champion
Bolt Pistol, CCW
It wrecks SO much face.
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As flights of fallen angels wished me
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