Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I was just thinking that maybe AV values have a very small range. 10-14 isn't much to be honest, and you have issues like Warlord Titans having lower armour values than Land Raiders (14/14/13 for the Titan vs 14 all round).

My proposal is to allow vehicle armour values to range from 6 (for really light vehicles like Venoms, Warbuggies and Vypers) to 18, the very heaviest stuff like a Titan. Land Raiders would be a 14 all around while something like a Knight may be 15.

Lance would be changed so that it reduces the AV by 2. So AV 14 would become 12, 15 becomes 13, etc.

Damn, you'd have to drop Warbuggies in price if you could effectively down it with three-four Guardsmen on average!

6 is way too low an AV, there is literally no reason to take them as bolters have a 2/3 chance of penetrating them. That being said I have no inherent issue with changing AV values by decreasing some a small amount and increasing some a small amount, but 18 is too high for anything and 6 is too low for anything, I would say AVs should be 9-16 if you really want to do this, with 15 being reserved for super heavies and maybe some land raider or other vehicle variants while 16 is for super heavies alone.

Why? Making units only killable, or even glanceable, by 3 or 4 weapons would be a terrible idea and would force D weapons into use.

This would also make auto-glance/pen weapons really, really, really powerful.