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Now, this is one of those things were I'm beginning to doubt everything I think I know...

We've got a large-ish Warmahordes group going now and yesterday there was some different interpretations of how a unit moving with a charge order operates.

Is it-

Suppose I have a unit of six infantry models and I'm going to charge a unit of 4 enemy infantry.

What I've been doing is moving all 6 into contact, then resolving the attacks.

OR

Re-reading should I be moving each one individually into contact, resolve its attack, then move onto the next model.

Which one is correct? I cannot seem to find anything in the rules to support how I'd been doing it and I'm doubting myself as we suddenly have several pairs of fresh eyes looking at the rulebook.

Thanks in advance.

It's in the "Activating Units" part of the rules:

Activating Units
Troopers do not activate individually. Instead, the entire
unit activates at once. When a unit begins its activation,
every trooper in it activates. First determine if any models
in the unit are out of formation. A trooper that is out of
formation at the start of its unit’s activation must spend its
normal movement making a full advance toward or directly
toward its unit commander. If it makes a full advance, it
must forfeit its action.
After resolving the normal movement of each activated
trooper, each trooper can then make its action, one trooper
at a time. Completely resolve the movement of one trooper
before moving on to the next. After one trooper resolves its
action, another can begin its action.

So, move all the models, then each model makes its attack.

Cheers me dears. Don't you just hate those seeds of doubt that suddendly grow into doubt trees?

 Grimtuff wrote:
Cheers me dears. Don't you just hate those seeds of doubt that suddendly grow into doubt trees?

Heh, yeah that happens on occasion "did I completely misread the rules somewhere?". Then again, it's always best to ask as sometimes you find out something completely new - I was playing knocked down models completely wrong for a couple of years until someone from a different group came around to play a game (I didn't realize they couldn't engage or *be engaged*, so shooting didn't get the in-melee penalty).

Anyway, just remember that the models turn to face directly at their charge target at the end of their movement (which also helps to rememeber which model charged which target), and that if a model successfully makes a charge movement (that is moves into melee range), it can still make all it's attacks even if its charge target is killed, it's just the first attack wouldn't have boosted damage.

Just to chime in, and you might already know this but I have semi-veteran players and have been in events at conventions where players still don't:

When your unit charges, each model declares it's charge target. They don't all have to charge the same thing. So long as they end up in formation (within the CMD range of the unit leader) anything goes.

I have had people double take and ask for others/judges to clarify that yes, I could do that, and now I have my 10 guys charge your 5 guys, 3 solos, and 2 jacks.

Again, you might (probably) already know this, but I've seen it so much and it get asked often enough on the PP rules forum t know it is a thing. If so...don't mind me, I'll just be over there.....

Just remember also with units, you give a charge/run order, so each model in Cmd range must charge a target or run. Each model then charges at a declared target or run.

So, unit member 1 charges at enemy model, move unit member 1 so that they would get into Melee, check to see if he go into Melee (sometimes obvious, sometimes not). Unit member 2 charges at enemy model 2, move, find out unit member 2 is short of Melee range, that activation is done. Unit member 3 runs, it's activation is done. Unit member 4 charges enemy model 2 and makes it into Melee. And so on. Then you make your attacks for models that have them.

Related question because I think I may have been doing it wrong forever as well, do you have to charge your full distance? Say you do the usual 1st turn run-everything-but-your-caster-who-casts-spells-and-charges thing, do you need to charge them, say, the full 9" (assuming SPD 6 with no buffs)? Or can you charge them less? I always thought you had to try and go the full 9 unless stopped by a building or something, but a recent opponent told me I had it wrong.

 motyak wrote:
Related question because I think I may have been doing it wrong forever as well, do you have to charge your full distance? Say you do the usual 1st turn run-everything-but-your-caster-who-casts-spells-and-charges thing, do you need to charge them, say, the full 9" (assuming SPD 6 with no buffs)? Or can you charge them less? I always thought you had to try and go the full 9 unless stopped by a building or something, but a recent opponent told me I had it wrong.

Your opponent was wrong.

The charging model cannot voluntarily stop its
movement until its target is in its melee range, then it can end
this movement at any point

Hooray, cheers

Can you change direction before a charge? Like turn completely around if facing the wrong way for whatever the cost of movement is, then charge? And do you have to charge in a straight line?

No, you must declare a charge target before you move (which includes changing the model's facing).
Yes, you must charge in a straight line of infinite length that would bring you into melee range with your charge target. So you can't declare a charge and then move whereever you want but you can declare a charge at a model farther than your charge range.

but you don't have to charge at his center right, you can charge to the right or left of him so you can fit more guys in?

You don't need to charge "directly towards" your charge target. But you need to charge in a line that will leave you within melee range of your charge target.
"Towards" and "Directly towards" are game terms defined in the basic rules. This game is very literal in its rules interpretations.

Other than needing to have LoS to your target, you can turn to face it.

Then you must move in a straight line that(if you had infinite movement and no obstructions) would eventually take you into melee. You then move till in melee range or you exhaust your movement.

If you Charge at an angle that is too far to the sides, left or right of the model and it up with a charge angle that could never reach the intended model it is considered an ILLEGAL charge (note, not a FAILED charge)

You then need to rewind, and try again... or if nothing was in the way, just nudge it forward........