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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 01:24:29
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In the 41st millenium, the teeming trillions of human lives must occasionally produce great works of science and technology. I know that this is heresy if it is not unearthed old technology and that the Mechanicum would smite them immediately...but how is this really accomplished at all times, on all levels? Surely some things get through, take a hold of a planet, and then the technology is impossible to eradicate, correct? What is done in circumstances like this?
Additionally, are all such scientists/researchers/engineers immediately executed? Or perhaps more likely forced to join them?
What do you think? What do you know?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 02:49:26
Subject: Re:How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODzO7Lz_pw
This is IRL. If you watch the video, you'll understand how the AdMech can pull it off.
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Jon Garrett wrote:Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.
"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."
"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"
"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 02:49:46
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It sort of depends on the researchers. The Mechanicum does permit some research, although it is with intense conservatism and is very slow (like, approving a new way to manufacture nails would take 300 years).
Also, research categorically isn't heresy, per say. Just the dangerous paths it can lead to, such as the Proteus Protocol and the Silica Anima. So if you're reasearching, say, the effect of Flourine on dirt, you'd probably be overlooked even if you were technically "heresy-ing"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 03:26:00
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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I'd guess an education system that does not generally teach the sciences might keep it in check.
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There is no Zuul, there is only war!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 03:40:13
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Lord of the Fleet
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Non-admech researchers are known as HereTeks and, yes, the admech does hunt them as relentlessly as the Inq does the more traditional sort. However, outside the Imperium, all sorts of tech heresy flourishes.
Which always brings me back to the question, when they have things like the Men of Iron and relics of the Dark Age of technology, that make the limitless numbers of the Imperium more or less irrelevant, how the hell does the Imperium hang on again?
Oh, right, Plot Armor.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 04:05:14
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Scientists rarely work alone. Just like Space Marine Chapters are held in check by internal balances and different sets of eyes and agendas. One scientist by himself might not fear being accused of heresy, but nobody wants to get dragged down by somebody else's heresy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 04:33:02
Subject: Re:How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like to think they actually do have scientists doing research but cover it all up to keep people confused about what's really available. Also the thoroughness of the research is probably no where near as good as it is today, just because no one takes enough time to think about how zebra fish might be good for experiments when there are enough people infected with whatever disease already. I was once told to read everything about 40k as though it's far far after the fact and you're read a story about what was reported but there's no telling if it was true.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 09:05:26
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Hallowed Canoness
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The AdMech have their own internal affairs department, kind of like the Inquisition or the Sororitas, but only caring about AdMech stuff.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 16:06:33
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Netsurfer733 wrote:In the 41st millenium, the teeming trillions of human lives must occasionally produce great works of science and technology. I know that this is heresy if it is not unearthed old technology and that the Mechanicum would smite them immediately...but how is this really accomplished at all times, on all levels? Surely some things get through, take a hold of a planet, and then the technology is impossible to eradicate, correct? What is done in circumstances like this?
Additionally, are all such scientists/researchers/engineers immediately executed? Or perhaps more likely forced to join them?
What do you think? What do you know?
It depends on what kind of tech and how far they get along.
Certainly there are a lot of people who tinker and perhaps develop something new or minorly innovative to solve a small problem here or there. If they do, so what. Does the tech get reproduced planet wide or is it a one off? I am sure there is so much technology operating somewhere in the IoM that is new/unique but never makes it off the one particular planet/hive/planet that developed them. Does the admech care about such things, probably not. If anything it just makes their lives a little more complex as it is another type of thing to repair and maintain, unless it offers a signifigant advantage. Most innovations are going to be offering a few % of efficiency.
If no one knows about it though no one can build upon it, so perhaps a lot of these minor advancements have actually been developed in multiple places around the galaxy.
If someone tries to spread it across an entire planet, system, sector of galaxy wide they will run directly into admech. The admech will either sanction it and approve the change or it will reject it and start the witch hunt.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/11 16:11:19
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Zuul wrote:I'd guess an education system that does not generally teach the sciences might keep it in check.
This.
The education system of the Imperium teaches, in most cases, the very basics. Reading, Religion, 'Rithmatic. "Be strong in your ignorance" is an Imperial Thought For the Day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/13 22:19:35
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Been Around the Block
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They go through their search history on Adeptoogle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 17:47:21
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Oh dear........ I knew I should have cleared that out
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 19:37:58
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Lit By the Flames of Prospero
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The Adeptus Mechanicus has found lots of... Heresy. Report to your local Adeptus Arbites Warden immediately for sanctioning.
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Muh Black Templars
Blacksails wrote:Maybe you should read your own posts before calling someone else's juvenile. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/14 19:44:07
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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I would think they would use MechdIn instead of Adeptibook myself. The latter is the Administratum's version.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 02:41:33
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No doubt it's Noosphere+, or it's archaeotech name, Noogle+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/09/15 03:03:25
Subject: How does the Mechanicus keep rogue scientists and researchers down?
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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Only the Imperial Guard requires people to use that, because only the Imperial Guard hates its members taht much.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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