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**Torga_DW**

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/01/04/07/48/kfc-applies-for-liquor-licence

KFC customers may soon be able wash their chicken down with a beer after a Sydney store applied for a liquor licence in a move that has been criticised by health advocates.

The fast food chain's new Parramatta store has sought permission to sell alcohol in a bid to keep pace with other so-called "fast casual restaurants" which offer drinks such as beer and cider, the Sydney Morning Herald reports.

The plan is seen as KFC's attempting to expand into the middle market for fast food, which is currently dominated by Nando's, Guzman y Gomez, Mad Mex and Grill'd.

However, the plan has been criticised by Mike Daube, professor of health policy at Curtin University, who called "KFC is the last place where alcohol should be sold".

"This is a company that markets to kids and families," he told the newspaper.

"Kids around the country are watching the KFC Big Bash on TV and at grounds every day. Now they will associate KFC and its marketing not only with junk food but with alcohol."

The plan follows a trial run by two rebranded KFC outlets in Toronto, Canada, last year.

The KFC Fresh-branded outlets sell alcohol and other new KFC offerings including mango rice salad and waffle fries in a reportedly hipster setting featuring exposed brick walls, and an outdoor balcony.

A worker at a neighbouring store said the Parramatta outlet had been fitted out for the launch of a "high-end"pilot store that will bear the name KFC Urban.

The new look store comes after a Roy Morgan poll showed KFC was losing the youth market to rival chicken chain Nando's.

**djones520**

Only way to stomach KFC food.

**Soladrin**

I am all for this.

**cincydooley**

So family restaurants shouldn't serve alcohol simply because they're "family" restaurants? Sound reasoning there.

**djones520**

Applebee's markets to kids. Chile's markets to kids. Just about every "family" eatery out there serves beer. That is just stupid reasoning.

**Torga_DW**

I don't honestly have an opinion at this point. But this isn't something that i would have ever thought happen. Mcdonalds opening up their mccafe thing is one thing, but liquor in kfc i just never saw coming. I wonder how licensing would affect them, like can kids even go to premises where alcohol is being served?

**djones520**

Torga_DW wrote:
I don't honestly have an opinion at this point. But this isn't something that i would have ever thought happen. Mcdonalds opening up their mccafe thing is one thing, but liquor in kfc i just never saw coming. I wonder how licensing would affect them, like can kids even go to premises where alcohol is being served?

In Australia, no clue. In the US, yet, dependent on the location.

**Jimsolo**

The basis of opposition being moral outrage amuses me, and reinforces the conclusion that Australia is just the southern hemisphere's USA.

**daedalus**

Jimsolo wrote:
The basis of opposition being moral outrage amuses me, and reinforces the conclusion that Australia is just the southern hemisphere's USA.

There has been an overall much greater acceptance in the US of casually drinking. Might be due to those dirty foreigners all invading from every angle, but I'd like to think it's because the right people are winning.

**Cheesecat**

daedalus wrote:
Jimsolo wrote:
The basis of opposition being moral outrage amuses me, and reinforces the conclusion that Australia is just the southern hemisphere's USA.

There has been an overall much greater acceptance in the US of casually drinking. Might be due to those dirty foreigners all invading from every angle, but I'd like to think it's because the right people are winning.

I hope to see that happening more in Canada too.

**cincydooley**

Torga_DW wrote:
I don't honestly have an opinion at this point. But this isn't something that i would have ever thought happen. Mcdonalds opening up their mccafe thing is one thing, but liquor in kfc i just never saw coming. I wonder how licensing would affect them, like can kids even go to premises where alcohol is being served?

Every family restaurant in the US says yes, as do chiptole, moes, and piada

**chromedog**

I don't get the issue?

Do they not have Guzman Y Gomez in Parra? Where you can get a margharita with your "mexican" food?

They don't just serve alcohol to kids - RSA comes into it, too (Responsible Service of Alcohol - regulations and training).

**motyak**

chromedog wrote:
I don't get the issue?

Do they not have Guzman Y Gomez in Parra? Where you can get a margharita with your "mexican" food?

They don't just serve alcohol to kids - RSA comes into it, too (Responsible Service of Alcohol - regulations and training).

Pretty much. Before there were all the burger joints and mexican spots that served what basically is fast food as well as alcohol, I could maybe understand the surprise, but this really isn't that far fetched.

**Torga_DW**

chromedog wrote:
I don't get the issue?

Do they not have Guzman Y Gomez in Parra? Where you can get a margharita with your "mexican" food?

They don't just serve alcohol to kids - RSA comes into it, too (Responsible Service of Alcohol - regulations and training).

I was thinking of full-on bars when i wrote that, but yeah probably not an issue. Just interesting to see one of the big 'fast food' chains move into alcohol. I guess it won't be long until the others follow suit.

**Nostromodamus**

I swear last time I was in France there was a McDonald's that served beer.

No big deal imho. As long as law is followed, let the market decide.

**daedalus**

Alex C wrote:
I swear last time I was in France there was a McDonald's that served beer.

No big deal imho. As long as law is followed, let the market decide.

The French have beer?

**Dreadclaw69**

Will the alcohol be available through the drive through?

**d-usa**

Germany has beer at McDonalds as well, I think.

**sirlynchmob**

In Hong Kong, I was able to get a big mac & a beer that was on tap.

The first one in north america to serve beer, will probably win the franchise wars, I'm looking at you taco bell.

**Torga_DW**

It's looking to me like they're making a new 'style' of restaurant with it's own slightly different name. So i guess it's possible that they may not include drive-throughs at all. But then we have drive-through bottleshops already, so it may depend on how they serve the drink. For example, most places that i can remember where i bought a can of beam & coke they always opened the can before giving it to me (think it's a regulatory thing). That probably excludes the drive through (since you can't drink and drive here) but who knows at this point.

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sirlynchmob wrote:
In Hong Kong, I was able to get a big mac & a beer that was on tap.

The first one in north america to serve beer, will probably win the franchise wars, I'm looking at you taco bell.

I was waiting for someone to say that.

**Nostromodamus**

daedalus wrote:
Alex C wrote:
I swear last time I was in France there was a McDonald's that served beer.

No big deal imho. As long as law is followed, let the market decide.

The French have beer?

Moreso than America, at least

**H.B.M.C.**

"Now they will associate KFC and its marketing not only with junk food but with alcohol."

Yeah... no they won't. They'll associate KFC with KFC. One store wanting to serve beer isn't going to change that.

Dreadclaw69 wrote:
Will the alcohol be available through the drive through?

If there is justice in this world, yes.

Torga_DW wrote:
It's looking to me like they're making a new 'style' of restaurant with it's own slightly different name.

KFN - Kentucky Fried, Nights!

**hotsauceman1**

djones520 wrote:
Applebee's markets to kids. Chile's markets to kids. Just about every "family" eatery out there serves beer. That is just stupid reasoning.

Because, the only way daddy and mommy can make it through dinner with the kids is adult juice.
Also, Because Bluemoon is better then soda

**chromedog**

sirlynchmob wrote:
In Hong Kong, I was able to get a big mac & a beer that was on tap.

The first one in north america to serve beer, will probably win the franchise wars, I'm looking at you taco bell.

Down here, Pizza hut won the wars - There was some confusion when the movie was released about TB winning, but after a couple of years, TB was no more and PH rules the roost.

**Torga_DW**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Torga_DW wrote:
It's looking to me like they're making a new 'style' of restaurant with it's own slightly different name.
KFN - Kentucky Fried, Nights!

That name would allow them to expand them into so much more than alcohol.

**djones520**

chromedog wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
In Hong Kong, I was able to get a big mac & a beer that was on tap.

The first one in north america to serve beer, will probably win the franchise wars, I'm looking at you taco bell.

Down here, Pizza hut won the wars - There was some confusion when the movie was released about TB winning, but after a couple of years, TB was no more and PH rules the roost.

Which is odd... Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are both owned by Pepsi... as is KFC for the matter.

**d-usa**

djones520 wrote:
chromedog wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
In Hong Kong, I was able to get a big mac & a beer that was on tap.

The first one in north america to serve beer, will probably win the franchise wars, I'm looking at you taco bell.

Down here, Pizza hut won the wars - There was some confusion when the movie was released about TB winning, but after a couple of years, TB was no more and PH rules the roost.

Which is odd... Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are both owned by Pepsi... as is KFC for the matter.

Thats how you end up with those weird TB/KFC combination restaurants. Because nothing will ruin your toilet faster thant Kentucky Fried Tacos...

**Nostromodamus**

d-usa wrote:
djones520 wrote:
chromedog wrote:
sirlynchmob wrote:
In Hong Kong, I was able to get a big mac & a beer that was on tap.

The first one in north america to serve beer, will probably win the franchise wars, I'm looking at you taco bell.

Down here, Pizza hut won the wars - There was some confusion when the movie was released about TB winning, but after a couple of years, TB was no more and PH rules the roost.

Which is odd... Pizza Hut and Taco Bell are both owned by Pepsi... as is KFC for the matter.

Thats how you end up with those weird TB/KFC combination restaurants. Because nothing will ruin your toilet faster thant Kentucky Fried Tacos...

I think, at that point, they're risking their own toilets.

**Hordini**

d-usa wrote:
Germany has beer at McDonalds as well, I think.

I can attest that they do, as does Burger King. McDonald's in Belgium also serves beer.

**cincydooley**

hotsauceman1 wrote:

Also, Because Bluemoon is better then soda

We really need to get you some better beer, my friend